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join:2000-05-23 Dar al Harb clubs: | Only launch color is white Only available in white! *cry*
I wanted a black Wii with red LEDs! -- head full of noise I can't think cause it's crushing | |
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 |   hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs: | Re: Only launch color is white What would really be cool, would be in acrylic with multi colored leds.  | |
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join:2004-04-21 New York, NY | It's more than I thought, to be honest. It's not worth $250. Had it been $200 or $175 I would definitely go for it. | |
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| Re: Only launch color is white Agreed, I was hoping for $199 myself. But I'll probably get it anyway... Plus, they're including a game! Who does THAT anymore? | |
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| Re: Only launch color is white And considering that games are slated to cost $50 each, you're basically getting the $200 console plus a game at $50.
I did the math and for the price of 1 PS3 base unit ($499.99) with *NO* games, you could buy:
- 1 Wii Console (includes Wiimote Controller, Nunchuck Controller, and 1 game) - 1 extra Wiimote - 1 extra Nunchuck - 3 games - 3 N64 Wii Shop games - 1 SNES Wii Shop game
And you would still have two bucks and change left over.
If you don't care about "high end" features like HDTV or Blue Ray (and I daresay that the majority of people out there don't care about them), then the Wii seems to have the best bang for the buck.
(Of course, I'm not a gamer and don't have $500 to spend on a console system no matter who makes it. So none of the big 3 will really be able to entice me to buy no matter how good the system is. ) | |
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 |   gate1975mlm Premium join:2001-09-30 Philadelphia, PA edit: September 14th, @12:33PM
| Wii games looks so bad! Yuck!
I would never buy a Wii looks no better then PS2.
PS3 will rule them all wait and see! | |
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join:2004-02-23 Vista, CA | Re: Only launch color is white If anyone can afford it... | |
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join:2004-12-02 Lowell, MA | if it were all about looks wed all just play PC games =P | |
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| Re: Only launch color is white said by EdibleTarget :if it were all about looks wed all just play PC games =P Well for me PS3 is all I want.
It will have the best looking games.The best Gamepad and also the Best Baseball game MLB The Show! | |
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| said by gate1975mlm :Well for me PS3 is all I want. It will have the best looking games.The best Gamepad and also the Best Baseball game MLB The Show! Pffft!!! no really, you have seen the bizarre series of events that surrounds the PS3 right. Seriously, Sony doesn't have the time to wait for developers to figure out how to code for the cell.
As released it's going to be a slightly slower XB360. Developers who want to spend the time and money can theoretically get better performance on PS3; but how many developers are going to invest that time...keep in mind the massive wall of "minimum necessary to get it to work" ports there are on the PC. Now realize your hedging your bets that developers are suddenly going to decide to properly port code to the cell, an architecture that appears to be harder to work with than PC. Wait for your PS3, but don't be surprised if the majority of what you get are straight XB360 ports; which won't run as fast on PS3 as they did on 360. -- Early to rise, early to bed; Makes a man healthy but socially dead. | |
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| said by gate1975mlm :Well for me PS3 is all I want. It will have the best looking games. All I know is that if the PS2 is anything, the PS3 will be a gigantic load of nearly unused hardware. Most of my games are of limited franchises (Metal Gear Solid, GTA) and retro games. All the rest of the PS2 games, unfortunately, are big "Eh?" inducers.
And another thing: load time. I can boot my GC and be into game menus and options within the first minute. My Playstation games require "warm up" time, as well as additional load screens between areas. Graphics are a nice thing, but I'm impatient with my console games. Currently, only Nintendo has gotten the picture. Blue-ray or not, I'd be seriously put off with additional warm-up time delays. | |
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| said by gate1975mlm :Wii games looks so bad! Yuck! I would never buy a Wii looks no better then PS2. PS3 will rule them all wait and see! Nintendo wouldn't downgrade their system. The Gamecube can outperform the PS2 when given a chance. -- huh? | |
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| Wii games looks so bad! Yuck!
I would never buy a Wii looks no better then PS2.
PS3 will rule them all wait and see!
Actually Wii has better power behind it. Sony did somthing wrong in the programming of the "video card" (I lost my memory here, that is why I did that) so the video and processor doesn't communicate correctly. And plus bigger discs (blue ray) doesn't mean better graphics, it just means more gameplay. But seriously who would like to play a 500 hour game? PS3 won't rule them all. More people are out to buy the xbox 360 then they are anything else for two reasons....It isn't going to be as expensive as the PS3 and it has more mature games than the Wii. So if I was going to say that any of them are going to rule it would be the xbox 360. And no I am not an xbox fan, I am more of a Nintendo fan than anything. And if I do say that Nintendo isn't going to get more mature games under their belt, they are going to go under. | |
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| said by gate1975mlm :Wii games looks so bad! Yuck! I would never buy a Wii looks no better then PS2. PS3 will rule them all wait and see! I do this thing where I play a game because it's fun to play. I couldn't care less if it takes a supercomputer to power every ripple in the ocean.
Eyecandy only goes so far. | |
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| Re: Only launch color is white said by lucky644 :said by gate1975mlm :Wii games looks so bad! Yuck! I would never buy a Wii looks no better then PS2. PS3 will rule them all wait and see! I do this thing where I play a game because it's fun to play. I couldn't care less if it takes a supercomputer to power every ripple in the ocean. Eyecandy only goes so far. So are you trying to say that all PS3 games will not be fun? | |
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| said by gate1975mlm :So are you trying to say that all PS3 games will not be fun? I think he's trying to explain that fun != graphics and vice versa. There's plenty of fun games that lack cutting-edge graphics, as well as lame games that have mind-blowing graphics. On the flip side though, there's also fun games with awesome graphics, and lame games with less-than-luster graphics. | |
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join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | just $250 eh? Great! I hope this initiates an 360 price drop! | |
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 |   Chiyo Save Me Konata-Chan Premium join:2003-02-20 Minneapolis, MN clubs: | Re: just $250 eh? Awesome, I will be buying one | |
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| Re: just $250 eh? said by Chiyo :Awesome, I will be buying one  Ditto. I actually want to get a Wii at release. I can't exactly have said the same for the 360, or PS3's whopper cost. At worst, it's a small investment for me to download my favorite NES/SNES games. At best, there'll be some awesome games coming out for Wii.  | |
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join:2005-08-02 Anaheim, CA edit: September 14th, @10:11AM
| Remember that other console Remember that OTHER console.......What was it called? I remember allot of hype but not many sales......Was it Turbo Graphics? I remember now it was called the PS3....LOL | |
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join:2006-06-26 Lewis Center, OH | Re: Remember that other console Is it backward compatable with gamecube games? | |
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join:2002-08-09 Dayton, OH | suppose to be completely backwards compatible with GC games. | |
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join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | as far as price...I think a better comparison would be NeoGeo. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" | |
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join:2005-11-06 Felton, DE
| ""Remember that OTHER console.......What was it called? I remember allot of hype but not many sales......Was it Turbo Graphics? I remember now it was called the PS3....LOL""
Golly, could the lack of sales be because the PS3 hasn't been released yet? HMMmmmmm...something to ponder. 
Anywayz...I'll be getting all 3. | |
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join:2004-02-23 Vista, CA | Re: Remember that other console It was a joke, son. You're supposed to laugh. | |
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join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA | Blah, blah, blah... Just tell me when I can pre-order the fricken' thing. 
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 |   hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs: edit: September 14th, @10:38AM
| Re: Blah, blah, blah... you cant yet on ebgames or gamestop nor best buy web site yet.
whats funny is that walmart website has the games on the website but no hardware yet. | |
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join:2006-04-19 St Catharines, ON
| Too much $$$$$$$$$$$$ I'll pre order 2 or 3, and hope I can flip them on ebay.. lol If not, then I will return them back to the store. IMO $250 USD is a horrible ripoff for this. I say that only because it's basically a GC on steroids.
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| Seems a just a ted much. Sucks that I have to buy the controller for the VC games. Ad all that up and it's to much money.
The Wii remote will cost $39.99; the nun-chuck $19.99 and the classic controller about $20.
That means I will have to spend 60US for an extra Wii controller being as I need one so my wife can play too. Hell 80 by the time you count the VC controller. What a shitty ass price point for it all. Hell it will be over 100 cdn. Damn Canada. God M$ Sony or N can't seem to get this shit right. Think I will just keep playing this gens games plus WOW for a good while.
I always liked gaming cause truth be told it was a good dollar value but shit it's not anymore. | |
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| Re: Seems a just a ted much. i hear that. i couldnt believe the controller was sold in seperate parts like that. That couple with N's lack of 3rd party support has me holding off. Wii is the first one that really has me tempted though simply for the price. Though i may break down and get it i just dont want to be stuck with nothing but a bunch of party games.
makes me cry every time i hear someone refer to SSBM as a fighting game. | |
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join:2003-09-20 Austin, TX | Can it play streamed content from PC? Since this is WiFi enable, is there any chance of this to be able to play streamed content from a PC, a la, iTV or similar devices? | |
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| Re: Can it play streamed content from PC? "If you don't care about "high end" features like HDTV or Blue Ray (and I daresay that the majority of people out there don't care about them), then the Wii seems to have the best bang for the buck"
Wow.
If this is how the Nintendo fanboys rationlize their system over, say the PS3, then wow!
The Wii cannot be compared to the PS3 spec wise, library wize (even if all the old ass NES games, which most gamers still have, were included) hell it just cannot be compared too. Period. The Wii will not be able to run, say, Metal Gear Solid 4 or the next GTA. All games ported over to the Wii will have to be downgraded.
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| you all forget one thing... well, some noticed, and I'll explain further in a minute...
Load times. Amazingly fast on a GC. And, IMHO, their graphics beat the pants off of a ps2 with most games. Far less pixellated, much smoother, more depth.
Now, for a short history lesson. Playstation emerged because Nintendo wanted a disc based system... they hired Sony to make the drive. PS1's cd-rom was what, 2x? Pathetic. Horrible load times, and PS2 wasn't much better at loading games. Nintendo wasn't having it, they wanted near instant loading from a disc, like the rom carts. Sony said 'ok, whatever' and put out the Playstation, and made it a hit.
Gamecube finally comes along and has 2 things NO other console has... very fast load times, and very fast RAM. I think it was Matsushita that ended up making the disc drive on GC, and hey, it had WAY less problems than ANY playstation's have... hmm...
I'm very surprised no geek here has noticed that the GC used 1-T RAM. Any true geek should instantly realize how much faster this is compared to any amount of standard DRAM. So what if it didn't have quite the processing power of an Xbox... it still had graphics that were closer to that than PS2... amount wasn't as important to them as speed.
Sure, lots of gamers won't buy a wii, but tons of others will. It may not be clocked as fast as a supercomputer, but I would be willing to bet its graphics are so much faster and smoother than most expect. I'm not saying they'll be HD ultra crazy good, but it'll be at least twice as good as the GC, and most certainly better than a standard Xbox.
Don't underestimate the Wii because of the obvious spec's, this thing will still have extremely fast memory, better, newer chips that aren't just 'hyped up' GC chips, and likely some very good control. Sure, Nintendo's probably not going to have Rockstar games, but there will still be tons of fun.
Looking forward to it. Hoping the control is all it's hyped to be and getting old games will be simple. Also, I hope they go with free online gaming. Don't see much point spending more money on yet another subscription just to game with friends over a net connection we already both pay for.
Oh, and for the record, screw xbox. 360 seems a lot better, sure, but I don't care. I'd rather spend more money on a ps3 just because MS/intel don't make it. Heck, I think I'll skip 'em both, for now, and wait on the new Nintendo. They know their consoles, it's what they've been doing for decades. | |
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| I'll get a Wii...BUT... 1: not until the SNES/NES games I really want are out. I dont' care about Zelda 1. Where's Super Mario RPG? Chrono Trigger? Secret of Mana? Lufia 1/2? Breath of Fire 2? Magic of Scheherezade? Dragon Warrior 1-4? Dare I say...Ikari Warriors?
2: not at launch. I learned my lesson.
3: I think Nintendo should wait until the first few weeks of December. The Christmas season will be huge, and if the Wii can sell strong at that time, especially given that 360's been out for some time, it will speak mounds for Nintendo's approach. | |
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