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Getting Your Pirated Films to Your Living Room
The streaming race is on among hardware vendors
by Karl Bode Wednesday 27-Sep-2006 tags: Video · content
As we mentioned Monday, there's a push from hardware vendors like Netgear & D-Link to provide consumers with devices that can stream the content they've downloaded from their PC to their living room, stunted in part by the delay of getting the 802.11n Wi-Fi standard to market. Apple meanwhile promises their iTV service will do the same thing starting in 2007, and Microsoft offers their solution now with their Xbox 360 Media Extender. There's obviously a slew of home-brew options available as well, from modding a first-gen Xbox to MythTV - but the real money will be made by offering a simple device aimed at Joe User.

However thanks to DRM and other industry fears there remains disconnects when it comes to how well many of these mainstream solutions work. Netgear and D-Link's solutions still use 802.11g, making them impractical for users who move a high-volume of high definition content. Microsoft's solution requires the purchase of an Xbox360; impractical for non-gamers. Apple hopes to grab the common man's attention in this market.

But telcos, cable providers, and DBS providers are getting into the game as well, and probably have the best shot at cornering the market, provided they don't shoot themselves in the foot by offering crippled units. Over the next several years AT&T users will get either U-Verse IPTV service or the hybrid DSL/DBS Homezone device. Verizon recently unveiled their multi-room DVR, which the company promises will someday allow the transmission of media from PC to living room.

Now today we're noticing that DirecTV is teaming up with Intel to create the "DirecTV Plus HD DVR" (not to be confused with the new HR20-250), a device that will tie your DirecTV service to a Viiv enabled PC. The company announced yesterday that software updates will turn existing DVRs into digital media adapters. This is coming from a company that for the longest time has forced users to update their DVRs via copper phone line, instead of letting them simply use the included ethernet jack.

The question with all of these services is just how locked down they'll be as the companies struggle with digital rights management. Will customers only be able to view DRM'd content? Will the units allow customers to browse all Internet content freely, or only content from marketing partners (the current case with AT&T's Homezone)? The simplest solution, offering the greatest freedom to consumers, will obviously bring home the mainstream streaming crown. What's your preferred solution?

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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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League City, TX

I like the idea

I record TV on my computer and I would like to watch it in my living room, I can see why they say alot of pirated content would pop up on there but who cares? Oh wait the RIAA there breaking in my house now

Camelot One
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Austin, TX
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Re: I like the idea

I have been using my Buffalo media player for over a year now to do exactly this. Yes, HD material over the Wifi gets choked, but hardwire it runs just fine. The XBox is a bit of a pain, what with it not supporting AVI files without 3rd party software, but it too does work. (granted, I'm wired there too)

So the issue isn't getting media from the PC to the TV, its just getting HDTV from the PC to the TV wirelessly.
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Dark Sephious

@dell.com

Re: I like the idea

I use my modded xbox with xbox media center installed. I can mount ISO's Watch video ts files and watch xvid/avi files. I have not had any issues with that setup. I have my media center pc connected wirelessly and the xbox connected wired to the router.

MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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Re: I like the idea

Gee look at you if you say you never pirated a thing in your life then your full of shit petty insults wont get you far here pal I love to flame.

Camelot One
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Austin, TX
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Did anyone in the thread claim to own pirated content? Or were you just trolling for the hell of it?
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nonesweegeg

@cox.net

Re: I like the idea

i use XBMC on my TV 300G hardrive and linksys (WRT54GS) with DD-WRT firmware complete wireless freedom

digitalfreak
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Blacklick, OH

Waste

The fact that it's tied to Viiv makes it pretty much useless. I already own a MCE PC and am not going to buy another one just to take advantage of this.

notyourmom

@comcast.net

Re: Waste

I handled this problem 3 years ago by building a "media center pc" for the purpose of connecting directly to my TV and digital reciever. granted, my system has around $1500 invested in it thru 3 years of minor upgrades.
it now contains:
AMD Athlon XP 2100+
Abit AN7 nForce 2 Ultra 400 mboard w/ nVidia Soundstorm
ATI All in Wonder 9700 Pro
1 gb ddr ram
Antec Overture case (when i bought this, there were very few HTPC cases available)
NEC DVDRW 4x Dualformat
2x 160gb IDE harddrives
2x 250gb SATA harddrives
Logitech MX Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Rumblepad2
Samsung 32" EDTV CRT
Onkyo Surround system.

This package is networked with cat6 to my other computer. and both systems are set up to share about 1.5 terabytes worth of Audio, Video and Game Content. I have over250 movies personally archived into Xvid on the hard drives of my two systems.

This setup handles everything i need it to do. And I first built my "media center" over 6 monthes before Microsoft brought Media Center Edition to market

bassjunky

join:2005-05-12
Aubrey, TX

Modded Xbox FTW

My choice, I just soft-modded my Xbox and think it's awesome. Using XBMC, which has a gorgeous interface, I can stream my entire library of music and movies from my server to the living room. Upgrading the drive, I could copy my library locally and take it wherever. Plus, I can play every single old school console game imaginable through emulators, and then, of course, Xbox games.

I dunno, from someone who didn't turn on their Xbox for a couple of years, now I can't keep my hands off of it. I think it's the perfect component to keep in the living room to playback all of your digital media, and then some.

jjoshua
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Scotch Plains, NJ
kudos:1

Re: Modded Xbox FTW

XBOX running MythTV for me.

Whole house solution for TV, videos, music, and photos.

WAF achieved.


MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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League City, TX

Re: Modded Xbox FTW

I have a old xbox I wouldent mind doing this cause I dont use it anymore

mrbobbio

join:2001-12-20
Canton, MI

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A modded XBOX w/XBMC and a 300+ GB drive is the only way to go, if you haven't converted to HD. My 250 DVD's (mostly kid related) that I own are in the Divx format. Plus it can stream content stored on my 2 DVR's ( ReplayTV's). The best part of this is I never have to mess with any media, when I get a new show. Its ripped and downloaded to the xbox, the original is then stored in case something happens. Even the wife loves the XBOX media center, no DVD's to mess with

Chiyo
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Re: Modded Xbox FTW

Agree'd I modded my xbox 4 years ago and been using XBMC since then, I've created a media server with 600 gigs of space I've got all kinds of complete series of shows and all I have to do is turn on my xbox start XBMC point to videos SMB network share and pick my TV share and pick what I want to watch and enjoy.

I do own the DVDs for many of the shows I have pirated copies of, I'd rather have good quality xvid over the large DVD rip.

I love XBMC and I wouldn't trade it for some peice of streaming hardware.
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Penny3000

join:2003-11-24
Oak Ridge, TN

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Re: Modded Xbox FTW

Yeah, I also modded the xbox, and put XBMC on there also. The latest version plus the xbox360 layout makes it more user friendly for the wife. I also use smb shares from a computer that just servers video and audio at any given time. I would also like to upgrade the hard drive to maybe 500 gig from 160 gig. But what I am having a hard time finding the right program that converts dvd format to xvid or divx with ac3 audio. I have a stupid fast system, but converting takes me an hour to convert an hour of dvd format footage to xvid. I am currently using SuperC, what do you use? Oh and I swear, I use the Media Center side of the Xbox more than I play games. :P

mrbobbio

join:2001-12-20
Canton, MI

Re: Modded Xbox FTW

I use AnyDVD & DVD decrypter for ripping. As for XVID / DIVX I'm currently using DR. DIVX , I know Dr. Divx isn't the greatest and has some audio issues ( I don't have a surround system so the 5.1 and AC3 issue don't apply to me) I really like the batch functions and the easy of use. The speed isn't that great either on a AMD3200 it takes about 3.5 hours to do a 2 hour DVD
Penny3000

join:2003-11-24
Oak Ridge, TN

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Re: Modded Xbox FTW

Yep that sounds about right, I have a opteron 165 overclocked to 2.7ghz with pc3200 mem and I see about the same conversion times, oh well. It's still worth it though. Oh also for ripping I use ripit4me and fixvts along with dvd decrypter. Thought you might want to know this. Later

Jack Teh Rippah

@charter.com

Re: Modded Xbox FTW

I've been using AnyDVD + CloneDVDMobile Slysoft.

AnyDVD does all the decrypting on the fly

CloneDVDmobile converts straight from the disc to divx.

so far I have converted 130+ of my personal collection, easy and quick. (I tried 6+ methods, all were PITA). only beef I have with CDM is you have to have an .ifo file, so it must be from a dvd (or a copy of the video_ts folder, no mpeg conversions or anything), otherwise, its the perfect rental extension tool.
1 disc takes 35-55 minutes on a:
Pentium 4 @ 3.4Ghz (800MHzFSB, 1MBL2, HT not dual)
1GB DDR400, dual channel on an Intel 865PERL
(1) 300GB SATA drive(16MB cache, 150Mb/s)
(1) Plextor SATA DVD everything (16x read)
(1) Liteon IDE 16x DVD everything
(1) LG IDE 8x DVD-ROM
I can rip 3 discs at once (CDVDM is ok with multiple copies running)
takes just about 1 hour 45 minutes for all three, start to finish.

Bibbins

@212.74.x.x

Best thing since sliced bread

Yeah xbmc totally kicks ass... I mainly use it for that, although running the emulators is great too.
+ The python plugins are good

UMDGaara

@umd.edu
FYI: XBMC also lets you use a home network to stream any playable file from any other computer on the network. Handy if you have a PC or NAS device with tons of space and you don't want to dedicate a large hard drive to the xbox.

Raptor
Not a Dumptruck

join:2001-10-21
London, ON

Just Chasing Their Own Tails

Whatever providers, governments, manufacturers, or DRM nazis push, there will always be those that will find work arounds, be they for the bettering of personal freedom. Granted, that can incur both positive (fair use imo) and negative uses (piracy), but the homebrew will always exist and eventually be created.

People don't want to be told what to buy, what to play it on, and how often they can watch/play it. It's restrictive, and when people are restricted, they want to break out. It's human nature. Perhaps all these corps should hire a psychologist the next time they implement DRM.

This whole Viiv thing, what a joke.
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caco
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Whittier, AK

Oxymoron anyone

"Apple hopes to grab the common man's attention in this market."

I'm sorry but I don't think Apple will be doing much of reaching the common man especially the price conscious common man. Besides for their mp3 player they are not known for wide adoption rates. One thing you can count on is that Apple will have the nicest looking streaming device out there.
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maartena
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Make your own!

I just pulled one of my computers that I no longer used, installed Windows XP Media Center 2005 on it, bought a Media Center remote for $40, and added a USB wireless 802.11b adapter to it, and hid the thing somewhere behind my TV. The USB infrared receiver I placed on top of the TV, and now I can play all my downloaded content straight on the TV.

The main reason to do this by the way was LEGAL content from uitzendinggemist.nl - so I can watch TV in Dutch from my couch instead of on the PC. But it does play any other content as well. I have a DVR to record regular TV, but I have had a few instances that the DVR had 3 things it wanted to record and it could record only 2.... and it decided for itself which program to dump. If that happens I go and fetch the Divx version through a torrent site to watch it anyways.

Oh sue me! If the networks would simply repeat their main shows in the middle of the night I would be happy too as I can just record it then. But since they don`t...

A Media Center pc doesn`t have to cost a lot. An old PC you no longer use that can run Windows XP should be enough. A remote control is nice, I bought mine for $40. The NVidia Geforce 4 MX card (cheapy) that came with it already had composite tv-out on board. That card can still be bought for like $50 or so should you need it. Windows XP Media Center Edition OEM edition you can buy with the Media Center remote for about $100, check pricewatch.com. You can also use Linux and a free Media Center alternative program, there are several you can download for free. Then you only have to worry about the right hardware, and the remote control if you don't want to get up from the couch.

If you have the right hardware and don't mind an illegal copy of Windows or using Linux and a free Media Center alternative, you could be in business for as little as $40 for the remote. Set your resolution to 800x600, big fonts.... and it reads just fine on your TV too.

The biggest advantage over a Netgear and D-Link device is obvious: You are in control on what can be played. DivX, XVid, Quicktime..... any hacked codec you would like to play, and hell.... you could see YouTube.com on your PC, or Google Videos for that matter.
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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD

Re: Make your own!

Did you need to use a "high end" video card for said PC? I ended up needing to use an Nvidia GeForce 6600 (I am 99% sure this is the card) as it could support the 1752x958 resolution that i had to use for my HDTV. Most of my videos are on a server I keep in my basement and I used gigabit ethernet for connectivity.
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maartena
Elmo
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Re: Make your own!

I don't have a HDTV, so I used the card that came with the PC which was a Gefore 4 MX.

When I buy a HDTV, I may have to replace the card for one that supports 1980x1080, but even those cards are not expensive anymore. And it just needs to play video, its not a gaming console.
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pnh102
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Re: Make your own!

said by maartena:

And it just needs to play video, its not a gaming console.
Heh... you say that... but there's something to be said about playing UT on a big screen TV.
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maartena
Elmo
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Re: Make your own!

said by pnh102:

said by maartena:

And it just needs to play video, its not a gaming console.
Heh... you say that... but there's something to be said about playing UT on a big screen TV.
Yep, if you are into gaming.... you can also buy xbox-like controllers and use your big screen TV to play PC games.

But you would need a fairly powerful CPU and fairly powerful graphicscard to do that. Playing DivX Video can be done on a 800 Mhz PIII with 256 Mb of memory you just happen to have lying around.

My Media Center is a AMD 2000+, 768 Mb, 80 Gb. It is actually my wife's PC that she no longer uses now that she has claimed our laptop as her PC

And as I said, you can even use Linux, and a free Media Center alternative. All you would need is a compatible remote, and for about $50 your old PC can serve a new life as a digital media station in the livingroom.

Of course it can also play MP3's and playlists, and believe it or not..... you can play solitaire quite nicely with the remote!
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PolarBear03
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Re: Make your own!

You all are going to laugh at me for this, but I play DivX Video on a 5 year old Toshiba Satellite running WinXP Pro with a 700mhz P3 and 64, that's right, only 64mb of ram! Of course, I certainly DO NOT try to do anything else on it while it is playing.
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LilYoda
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I think I tested the most popular PVR softwares (Sage, BeyondTV, MythTV, XP media center...) So far my favorite is still GB-PVR.
Freeware, there's a ton of plugins, and if all you're looking for is DivX playback, DVD, live TV, recording TV and MP3 playback, it's doing the job perfectly.

Add a MediaMVP from Hauppauge for $50, and you don't even have to live with a PC in the living room, the mediaMVP communicates with the GBPVR server running on your PC in the den/home office/basement/wherever...
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disc

join:2005-12-31
Raleigh, NC

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Re: Make your own!

I've got the same set up as LilYoda with GB-PVR on the home PC and media mvp STB, with one 160GB drive in the home PC for day-to-day recording and another for archiving content. Only problem now is that my kids fill up the hard drives all the time with their shows.

I've got wired ethernet drops throughout the house - didn't want to mess with wireless for video content. My kids move the media mvp to whichever TV they're watching at the time. How about that for multi-room DVR I suppose I could buy another media mvp; they're cheap enough.

I don't take advantage of any of the transcoding stuff or divx. But I really like the plug-in for skipping commercials

811z

@ohio-state.edu
You can get cheap DivX DVD players and a DVD burner or something like a Creative Zen Vision:M with it's video out to display your recorded contect on any tv. May not work at well for HD content but it's compact and cheap.
dentman42
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Columbus, OH
Hmm...could be a good use for an old laptop. Unfortunately, all the old ones I have are USB 1 so they'll need a USB 2 card to add decent amounts of storage.

Elcabong
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join:2000-03-09
Philadelphia, PA

What's the Big Deal?

I just run a cable from my video card t.v. out and a cable from my sound card to my t.v. and watch movies all I want, so what's the big deal?
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c0de

join:2004-10-14
Richmond, VA

you can stream media to your TV???

This does not at all seem new to me. I have been pumping 'backed up dvds' to my TV with a media center pc for a very long time. The biggest problem I have run into, is that if it is not wired (100MBit+ Cat5e), its hard to get the content. With wireless i had to buy a very expensive turbo something something made by belkin, so that the wireless card on the media center could achieve speeds fast enough to stream content from my media server, and even then it was not always reliable. (i have sence wired it) So how are these companys planing on connecting these devices to TVs and other viewers? Compression? and will you have to have a box hooked up to your TV, im guessing so.

here is an idea for comcast:

make your DVR HD Digital cable boxes interact with eachother if they are on the same node. That way I can watch something recored on my DVR in the livingroom on my TV in the bedroom. (I think with dish you can do this?)
And even better, allow the box to be connected via eithernet to my home network and discover shared media files it can play. OMG how happy would i be if i could use one remote to scroll though a m3u of all my music and play it via my comcast box? well i will tell you, I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY!

Why get another box in another room in addition to the one you already have, that has less features or only some features you want.

I say just cram all the stuff into the already,wired, and existing set top boxes that everyone has!
brandon079

join:2006-09-27
Rock Falls, IL

Video Out

I connect my Tv to my Radeon 9800 via svideo. I set my display properties on theater mode. For sound I use an adapter that converts from headphone sized plug to composite in which I hook to my sony receiver. I also have a Ati Remote wonder which works from any room in the house and even outside. Its great for parties. I've been doing this for about 6 years now and find no reason to buy any additional hardware except maybe an audigy 2 card for optical sorround sound.
mdnttoker

join:2006-09-04
Schaumburg, IL

SageTV and MediaMVP Extender = Perfect

Is the perfect solution for a non-DRM'd TIVO replacement.

All the features of TIVO, without the DRM, with Commercial Skipping (plugin), and without a big honking loud computer in your living room.

»www.sagetv.com
»www.hauppauge.com

fegul
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united state

Dugg

DSLR was Dugg; »www.digg.com/gadgets/Getting_You···ing_Room

kieranmullen
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Portland, OR

tversity.com

No mention of tversity.com? Better than mythtv???

Using in on my dlink medialounge 320-RD It plays all formats, what it cant play on the device, it transcodes on the server. Streams shoutcast, video and handles RSS feeds. Which the software included with the unit will not do. My unit also has a dvd player and media card reader. Not bad for $80.

KM
Elementix

join:2006-09-27
New Ellenton, SC

Re: tversity.com

I still prefer using the Xbox with XBMC as it can do all those things,it can give me weather, and has many many scripts,including some to stream Youtube videos, Google videos, and even my Podcasts. The only thing it probably doesnt have would be the card reader, but it can still play games and even use linux to chat or browse the internet all from the living room. And the dvd remote costs what? Like $10 on Amazon. It is my most prized box under the tv.

GilbertMark
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Gilbert, AZ

ugh

Stupid, ridiculous and wasteful.

Anyone who is smart enough to get pirated material on their computer is surely smart enough to purchase a DVI cable (or other type) and hook it up to their computer and TV to view the content.

gabeman

join:2001-05-03
New York, NY

Re: ugh

said by GilbertMark:

Stupid, ridiculous and wasteful.

Anyone who is smart enough to get pirated material on their computer is surely smart enough to purchase a DVI cable (or other type) and hook it up to their computer and TV to view the content.
Uh, right, because everyone has a computer in the same room as their TV.
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Re: ugh

said by gabeman:

said by GilbertMark:

Stupid, ridiculous and wasteful.

Anyone who is smart enough to get pirated material on their computer is surely smart enough to purchase a DVI cable (or other type) and hook it up to their computer and TV to view the content.
Uh, right, because everyone has a computer in the same room as their TV.
There's this little known invention called the laptop computer.

Look if somene is willing to WASTE the money needed to buy these streaming devices, why not plunk down a couple hundred dollars more and get something useful like a laptop. They aren't that exepnsive.
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gabeman

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Re: ugh

said by GilbertMark:

said by gabeman:

said by GilbertMark:

Stupid, ridiculous and wasteful.

Anyone who is smart enough to get pirated material on their computer is surely smart enough to purchase a DVI cable (or other type) and hook it up to their computer and TV to view the content.
Uh, right, because everyone has a computer in the same room as their TV.
There's this little known invention called the laptop computer.

Look if somene is willing to WASTE the money needed to buy these streaming devices, why not plunk down a couple hundred dollars more and get something useful like a laptop. They aren't that exepnsive.
A laptop is a far more complicated device and is nowhere near as reliable. Sure, it may be able to do more, but if all you need is a way to play your videos on your TV without any hassle, a dedicated device is the way to go. Do you use a Swiss Army knife to cut your food? Do you use your stove to dry your clothing?

The reason that I would buy an iTV is the same reason I bought an iPod, even though my phone has an MP3 player.
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crappedcrusader

@ellisfirm.com

Free alternative to sage: GBPVR

I use GBPVR (runs on Windows) »www.gbpvr.com , a free application that schedules, records, cuts commericals, etc. as well as the ability to set up locations of video files (plays all avi, wmv, mpg files) and is all navigatable with a Happauge PVR-150 Remote. If I don't move it over to the HTPC box in time, I can use the remote to navigate to my bittorrent directory and view whatever's new.

BTW, I have a fully working PVR computer in my living room and another computer that does all my bittorrent that is on all the time. I only have the PVR on when I'm home (since it sucks a lot of power and all my recordings are when I'm home anyways).
jp10558
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Willseyville, NY

Re: Free alternative to sage: GBPVR

I'm a little confused by these "streamers". Do they work as if I was doing TV out from the PC - i.e. I can't use the PC while doing this, or do they just watch the video as if I was using SMB to watch the video on another PC?
mdnttoker

join:2006-09-04
Schaumburg, IL

Re: Free alternative to sage: GBPVR

Your server PC acts as a media server to the client machine. You still have full use of your server machine.

In fact, you can be watching your recorded shows on both teh server machine and the client machine at the same time if you like.

On most devices, the GUI is fed to the extender via the network, and the extender merely has an mpeg/xvid decoder for processing the compressed video.

PleaseHelpme2

@158.123.x.x
What type of audio plug do I need so that I can get audio from my pc to play on my tv? I know that I need a s-tunner cable both male right? but what about the audio cable, I need one that is 50ft.

GilbertMark
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Gilbert, AZ

Re: Free alternative to sage: GBPVR

said by PleaseHelpme2 :

What type of audio plug do I need so that I can get audio from my pc to play on my tv? I know that I need a s-tunner cable both male right? but what about the audio cable, I need one that is 50ft.
More than likely a 1/8" headphone jack is on your computer right? Go to Radio Shack, or wherever, and get a 1/8" stereo plug to dual RCA (depending on your TV connections). You could then get a couple 1/8" extension cords to go the distance. If you are running your audio 50 feet I guess that you are running your video cable 50 feet long as well? I think you'll need an amp on that video line it may not survive the distance.
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join:2000-08-30
Rohnert Park, CA

Nero Showtime and VDM do me fine

D/l whatever, send to big screen, watch movie or whatever, eat popcorn, drink beer whatever, pause to goto bathroom or whatever, listen on big speakers via sound system whatever.

Whatever!!! it's been so easy for how long(years)? 14.99 a month on the NG's is all anyones needs and a good computer fast DSL/Cable.

Money Saved? Whatever! (smile)

Nero Showtime, Damon tools, a good computer! Must be a slow news day.
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join:2002-02-22
Baldwin Park, CA

DTV correction

umm... DTV updates the recievers by Coax Line and delivered by the Satillite. The DirecTV DVR was updated by the phone line but it was dialing a Tivo pop # but this wasnt a DirecTV update from the phoneline.
pas1972

join:2000-10-22
Hanceville, AL

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The easy way to do it.

I have an older Nvidia 6600gt with svideo out. Pair that with a $20 RF modulator from Walmart, a $5 stereo miniplug to RCA jack audio cable, and $15 for 50 feet of Coax cable, and I can stream video to my television any time I want to.

That's $40 and no modding or tech degree needed.

Also note that you can use an Nvidia MX4000 for the video card. They sell for about $25 to $45 depending on where you buy one from.

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