AT&T and the Infamous Second HD Stream
Will telco resort to 'fake HD'?
AT&T’s Wes Warnock tells industry analyst Dave Burstein: "our first HD trial customers are up and running in Houston today. We've been very pleased with the picture quality and compression we've seen there. As we've said all along, we will launch our HD offering with a single HD stream. Shortly thereafter, we'll enable a second HD stream. When this happens, customers will be able to use 2 streams of HD and still have 2 SD streams to either watch or record.""The promise of the second HD stream is intriguing,"
says Burstein. "They cannot deliver two live HD and 2 SD streams + DSL + overhead in 20-25 megabits with current encoders without compromising the quality of the HD video."
Customers further than 3,000 feet are going to need more speed than what's going to be available with the original "Project Lightspeed"
deployment design, he insists.
Warnock says there's two options for them: pair bonding, or "splitting a distribution area in two, which shortens the loop lengths"
- an option that would require laying more fiber. "They may therefore choose to cheat, squeezing in two channels of "Fake HD","
says Burstein. As for the rumors
we've seen about AT&T deciding to go all fiber, Burstein doesn't think AT&T will spend the money.
More detail available over at Burstein's DSLPrime
Scotch Plains, NJ
TCP/IP is not broadcast It seems silly to me that these folks are trying to replicate a broadcast paradigm using point to point.
Hasn't the wheel already been invented here?
Re: TCP/IP is not broadcast If at&t says it'll work, dammit it'll work.
at&t has a strategy, err, ideas, err, stupid ideas. They have the technology, err, possible techno-, err, YES! The NSA on their side.
Yo r Wo ld. D li e d.
Ok..here's the package I'll be ordering.... "two live HD and 2 SD streams + DSL + overhead in 20-25 megabits"
Hopefully you'll excuse me for a minute here folks.
OH>>!!!! MY RIBS!! THEY'RE CRACKING!!!!
AT&T's new webpage for UVerse...
I wonder if the dsl speeds will break 42k while the hd is streaming?
I haven't seen anything this crowded all on 20 to 25MB since the bus trip I just took to for the natl. association of retirees to mohegan sun casino here in ct.
(no, no NO..i'm not that old yet. My g.Aunt asked me to join her. )
This is starting to remind me of growing up as a child, all 6 of us fighting over one bathroom in the morning.
I don't know what two channels you'll be watching on HD, but I have a feeling that one of them will be "Dark Shadows".
Anyways..just a little humour.
Hopefully it does work out for them.
Personally, I think that one interesting thing about uverse would be if they decided to offer ala carte internet packages, up to the 20 to 25MB speeds.
That could certainly be interesting, and a real competitor with FIOS.
The life you help save just might be your own Team Discovery
Park Ridge, IL
For all the Press... For all the press around Project Lightspeed I've yet to see any real deployment. It's been two years of talk and for what? A couple of towns in Texas now have limited access to the service?
I couldn't be less impressed or excited about Project Lightspeed. Keep your press releases and just let me know when you're dropping fiber. I've got 27 years left on my mortgage so I'll be here...waiting patiently.
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AT&T loves corporate welfare! As for the rumors we've seen about AT&T deciding to go all fiber, Burstein doesn't think AT&T will spend the money.
this is correct. also, they will beg for corporate hand-outs in a few years to help them with the fiber build out once it is clear that they have f@cked themselves by doing this half-assed job. it's up to the people to revolt if any politician ever considers this.
Re: AT&T loves corporate welfare!
youll be paying for this
"johny, you get off the internet right now!"
Re: I predict
said by NOCMan:We can only wish that would happen. I'd love to see this happen. I would then have two cable companies and two phone companies to decide over, instead of one phone company and two cable companies.
If AT&T sticks to this eventually Verizon will have expanded it's fios network as far as it can go. It's quite possible they will begin to overbuild areas they know they can snipe from AT&T.
first poster said it best................................... "TCP/IP is not broadcast
It seems silly to me that these folks are trying to replicate a broadcast paradigm using point to point.
Hasn't the wheel already been invented here?"
...yeah, it has, and it's called ANALOG. TV was meant to be broadcasted...
Even digital broadcasting is more well established (than IPTV), not to mention sat. systems......
The only real way to deliver HD is either through existing cable, sat. or ..hmm.. what's that other stuff called? oh yeah.. FIBER.
I've posted it before, I'll post it again, STOP TRYING TO PIPE TELEVISION THROUGH TELEPHONE LINES!!! It's about the dumbest thing I can think of. I mean come on, what's next, trying to pump gas through a hose the size of a straw??? You'd be sitting at the pump for hours.
Telephone lines were invented, and deployed for one reason, and one reason only, telephones. It's almost weird that modulation/demodulation works at all for dialup (and we all know how flaky that is) let alone DSL. Leave the poor ol' little itsy bitsy coper lines alone and leave real television to people who know what they're doing with it.
Re: MPEG4-AVC would make this possible
said by cyberbeing:It might be just possible using MPEG4 if the HD resolution is 720p. However, this is hardly a future-proof solution.
If they are using MPEG4-AVC(h.264) and not MPEG2 I don't see why this would be so impossible. Combine that with only transmitting the stations you tune to and it would probably work just fine at broadcast quality.