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'Every meeting is like the first', complains Google exec
(old news - 07:48AM Friday Oct 20 2006)
tags: wireless · municipal
Blogger Davis Freeberg attended this week's Town hall meeting between Google, Earthlink and San Francisco leaders, and comes away concerned that bureaucracy is slowing negotiations to a crawl.
"I did get to see Chris Sacca from Google face a parade of activist oddballs who neither understood technology nor the positive social impact that free wifi could bring to some of the city's most disadvantaged citizens.

At the meeting, Sacca did an excellent job or remaining calm and explaining the technology in language that anyone could understand, still these local political gadflies seemed to feel that EarthLink and Google providing free WiFi to the citizens was akin to killing kittens because, they attacked Sacca with a venom that was absolutely shocking."
The plan as it stands has Google/Earthlink offering a free 300kbps component, and a 1Mbps $20 a month plan as well. Also see a recent article in the San Francisco Chronicle.

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VansHSI

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Wackos

Thats what you get when you try to do business with a bunch of nut jobs in San Fran

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Remember, making money and being a big corporation is evil!! /sarcasm

rachelsfx

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San Fran would bitch about free FIOS, free parking, free cupcakes on Monday mornings. No sprinkles? Ya kidding me?

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Yeah I'd be b#$#%en all day too if I had to live in Pepsidcola stuck with retirees and it's failing home market
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Jeeze, what an idiot,

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I wonder where the U.S. stands in the world "Sprinkles" standings??

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said by VansHSI See Profile :

Thats what you get when you try to do business with a bunch of nut jobs in San Fran
I especially liked the writers take on the loonies that pass for leaders in SanFran:
Google and Earthlink discovering that dealing with the local San Francisco political scene is about as fun as being set up on a blind date with Mike Tyson after being rubbed down in meat sauce.
The city's political leadership and their political action groups would be certifiably insane in most places in the US. In San Francisco they pass for normal.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

The city's political leadership and their political action groups would be certifiably insane in most places in the US. In San Francisco they pass for normal.
San Francisco isn't that bad

I mean, at least they named a street there after Fidel Castro, right?
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This is what is going to happen to Google's Plans for the City of the loonies by the bay
When you have a embedded culture of entitlements this is what you will get. They don't look at google as doing the city a good turn their attitude is; This is Google's obligation as an evil rich corporation to do this, and because of this we are entitled to have this, This, this, this, this, this, this............................and this.
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I didn't know you live in SF? Man, don't ya love the "California sucks" crowd who have never been or lived there? lol
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No, but most people who live in other parts of the country who have visited California refer to it as "the land of fruits and nuts" and for good reason.

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Man, don't ya love the "California sucks" crowd who have never been or lived there? lol
And you've never bashed a place in which you've never lived or visited?
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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

I didn't know you live in SF? Man, don't ya love the "California sucks" crowd who have never been or lived there? lol
I visited San Francisco on a business trip. But that isn't necessary to know the city leaders are nuts. It is there for all to see on the evening news a few times a month.
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Fox evening news, eh?

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Fox evening news, eh?
I am sure he wanted to listen to the news on Air America Radio, but... oh wait, never mind
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lol

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said by RR Conductor See Profile :

I didn't know you live in SF? Man, don't ya love the "California sucks" crowd who have never been or lived there? lol
I used to live in SF when My dad was in the Navy, in fact I lived on Treasure Island, and I was back there when I was in the Navy. Later when I was in the Army National Guard as a bandsmen we went back several times. A beatiful city but not a place I would care to live these days.
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Google/Earthlink

Mayor Newsom,will please you step in? At the rate this is going no company will bear it and will back out.

-San Fancisco Resident

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If it doesn't concern gay marriage, Newsom doesn't care.

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said by digitalfreak See Profile :

If it doesn't concern gay marriage, Newsom doesn't care.
Yep!
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And I thought all Jeb Bush cared about was keeping brain dead women alive.
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Wow, doesn't get more off topic than that.

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If it doesn't concern gay marriage, Newsom doesn't care.
Come on, don't pick on Mayor Newsom. It is not his fault that his ex-wife left him to join the Dark Side
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a bit fugly if you ask me. add to that using the fame to further her "career" and she is a real loser.

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a bit fugly if you ask me.
LOL... I guess this is the millionth thing over which you and I disagree
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

LOL... I guess this is the millionth thing over which you and I disagree
just don't tell me you get off on her working at FOX and i'll leave it at that.

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just don't tell me you get off on her working at FOX and i'll leave it at that.
Dude no! Your assessment of her as being "fugly" is with what I disagree.
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this is much better
ok ok. then your lady is "pug fugly" agree?

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ok ok. then your lady is "pug fugly" agree?
No.
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no shocker

Anyone shocked by this has clearly never been to San Francisco. I once saw a bunch of idiots chain themselves to a three foot tall landscaping tree in protest over the city's plan to move the tree. (They were putting in a playground.)

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In states that elect guys like this -

»www.radaronline.com/exclusives/i···ntel.jpg

- to govern them, is anything surprising?
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said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

»www.radaronline.com/exclusives/i···ntel.jpg

- to govern them, is anything surprising?
Ahnuld Rules!
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He's just covering her for the picture :P
jayperkins

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The poor and broadband

Just addressing the subject of the goal of this project of helping the poor:

San Fran has about 74,000 people or 23,000 households in poverty
www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/countie···unty.htm)

The city receives about $4.5 million a month in cable franchise fees.
www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~bigyal···2006.pdf)

Why doesn't the city use a portion of this income (10% = $450,000/mo) to take care of its own disadvantaged citizen's broadband needs by buying cable broadband? Isn't helping the poor a function of San Francisco's government?

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said by jayperkins See Profile :

San Fran has about 74,000 people or 23,000 households in poverty
I'm calling BS on that stat. The smallest stinkhole of a house in San Francisco sells for the price of a small mansion here in the midwest. I don't doubt there are poor people in SF (especially homeless) but there aren't many (if any) poor households.
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Theres so many darn homeless people in SF. All the hobos seemed to migrate to SF for some reason. We used to hand out so much money/benefits to them and word got around and SF was the mecca. Theres also a bunch of hippies that never left. They're jobless and still on acid or whatever they do.

The cops do a good job of keeping them to the poorer sections where tourist and normal money spending folks don't go to.

SF is still the #1 destination in America.

»sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/san···y18.html


For the fourteenth year in a row, readers of Condé Nast Traveler magazine named San Francisco the No. 1 destination city in the country.

Some 21,000 travelers voted in the survey, according to the magazine

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they take care of the poor via "Care not Cash"

We give'em housing but not much more

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Industry titans

it seems the corporate apologists are out as usual here.... I would say a number of the city councilman are being bribed, paid off,lobbied by the local Corporate Broadband provider to indeed slow everything down because they don't want to lose their monopoly. the San Francisco Chronicle should do a little investigative reporting and find out whom is receiving contributions and expose them for what they are. Corporate shills. hey the majority of the citizenry want this....
jayperkins

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Re: Industry titans

I guess someone skeptical might note that the same corporations doing that may, or may not, be doing any bribing are some of the SF Chronicle's biggest advertisers. In which case, well... you fill in the blanks. I would never say that though, I am not that skeptical.

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Not quite so fast

Before everybody falls all over themselves, it would be a good idea to read the first comment in this blog entry as the subject of this thread. It's by John Gilmore, and he makes some really cogent points.

1) It's not all free WiFi - the city is paying for infrastructure
2) Many object to the privacy issues involved: free use requires a login. Usage can be tracked.

Now of course we're also seeing the generic run-of-the-mill SF nutbars, and I don't doubt that the politicians are either tech-morons or posturing fools, but that doesn't mean that there are no valid issues worth raising.

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first

OK, guess im the first to say this.
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Rich hippies need "free" wi-fi?

It is expensive to live in San Francisco. I find it hard to believe that the same people who can afford to live there cannot afford wi-fi.
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