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GOLFnSUN
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| Re: Someone actually makes sen$e? said by cableties  :The success of YouTube is that it is a marketing vessel, via viral-social-tribal distribution. And as long as Viacom gets their piece of the action, everyone will be happy.
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swhx7
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Camelot One
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| In my opinion, it's Viacom that should be paying YouTube. It's free marketing now, then they bitched about it. YouTube is not going to go under losing the daily show clips, but the daily show might fail without YouTube.
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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| Re: Someone actually makes sen$e? said by Camelot One :YouTube is not going to go under losing the daily show clips, but the daily show might fail without YouTube. The Daily show was doing fine before youtube. The Colbert Report is going to do well because it's associated with the Daily Show. I seriously doubt youtube is responsible for their success.
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| Re: Someone actually makes sen$e? said by Combat Chuck :I seriously doubt youtube is responsible for their success. Well, it certainly never hurt. I can't see how being promoted on YouTube did anything other than add to their success. | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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| Re: Someone actually makes sen$e? said by Thaler :Well, it certainly never hurt. I can't see how being promoted on YouTube did anything other than add to their success. Agreed, it's maybe enhanced the ratings, but the shows would have done well enough without youtube.
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Chicago, IL | I don't watch either show, BUT, when I do see a clip on Youtube, I get the urge to watch (although I don't.) But the urge is there and that's where marketing starts. | |
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| said by Combat Chuck :said by Camelot One :YouTube is not going to go under losing the daily show clips, but the daily show might fail without YouTube. The Daily show was doing fine before youtube. The Colbert Report is going to do well because it's associated with the Daily Show. I seriously doubt youtube is responsible for their success. I can state that I watch Colbert and Steve Steward on TV cause of youtube.. I wasn't really into their shows until I saw some funny ass clips my friend sent me (which were on youtube).... | |
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Columbus, OH | Re: Someone actually makes sen$e? Who's "Steve Steward"?!!!  | |
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| Re: Someone actually makes sen$e? said by dentman42 :Who's "Steve Steward"?!!! LOL, their illegitimate child.  | |
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tapeloop
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| said by GOLFnSUN :said by cableties :The success of YouTube is that it is a marketing vessel, via viral-social-tribal distribution. And as long as Viacom gets their piece of the action, everyone will be happy. But in a way, wasn't Viacom already getting "a piece of the action" as a result of more people watching the Daily Show and Colbert Report because they were on YouTube?
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
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| After thinking about, we decided, uhmmm, YouTube viewers shouldn't be deprived of me and Steven Colbert.
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Raptor
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London, ON | Impressed Nothing more to say about that. Leave it to Comedy Central to get it. And in about a week too.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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| What about ...the crappy quality of the videos on Youtube?
Someone ought to set some standards for the quality allowed!
I swear, people are only seeing that videos are avalable, overlooking the fact that they are virtually unwatchable.
I hate when the masses settle for something and suppliers see that as the norm - then that's all *we* get.
This applies to most things we all use, but Youtube for the sake of this news item. 
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| Re: What about said by dadkins :...the crappy quality of the videos on Youtube? Someone ought to set some standards for the quality allowed! I swear, people are only seeing that videos are avalable, overlooking the fact that they are virtually unwatchable. I hate when the masses settle for something and suppliers see that as the norm - then that's all *we* get. This applies to most things we all use, but Youtube for the sake of this news item. [/rant] Welcome to America. | |
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| ub355
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Brookfield, WI | Considering the content, why waste bandwidth ? | |
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Bonne Terre, MO | Re: What about The point is you don't have to sacrifice quality for bandwidth by much.
You can encode stuff for the same size and still get better quality than most of the crap on youtube  | |
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swhx7
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| said by dadkins :What about the crappy quality of the videos on Youtube? [/rant]
This complaint misses the whole "marketing" concept. They want to give just enough to get you to watch the actual show. The quality and length are enough for jokes but not enough to substitute for the show.
I wish the music companies would get the same idea: give away mp3s of a certain bit-rate and people would use them to decide what they like, and then would buy the full quality versions of some of them. I mean, p2p users already do the "try before you buy" thing, but because it's illegal they might as well get high quality in the first place and use it as a substitute for the CD rather than just graze. The music companies are missing a big marketing opportunity. They could quit paying Clear Channel too. | |
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Maxo
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rachelsfx
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Pensacola, FL | Re: Still there "Oh, you're in trouble young man!"
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CSU
join:2002-10-21
Lagrange, GA | stupid I say How in the world can you deny free advertising? | |
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rachelsfx
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Pensacola, FL | Re: stupid I say Considering Jon Stewart could care less, only the company did. Stewart kinda encouraged it anyway. | |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by CSU :How in the world can you deny free advertising? Well if someone is posting whole shows without the commercials then no this isn't helping those shows since they derive their income from advertising revenue which is based on TELEVISON ratings. And if I'm watching the shows on You tube and not on TV then no there isn't any benefit for those shows.
I know people here think that everything should be free and without ads, but this is real life not Fantasyland and shows are created to generate income for the companies that produce them not to merely entertain the masses for no return on investment because the media companies have some philanthropistic bug up their butt. NO ONE here would produce a hit show and not expect to be paid.
What's ironic is if I ask if communism is a good idea the vast majority would say no. So what do you call it when you expect something for FREE? | |
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shamrin
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| Re: stupid I say said by BF69 :said by CSU :How in the world can you deny free advertising? ... What's ironic is if I ask if communism is a good idea the vast majority would say no. So what do you call it when you expect something for FREE? Why communism of course! Yeah, man, those lucky North Koreans are getting all their money for nuthin' and their chicks for free
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PolarBear
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| Advertising As long as you are not posting an entire song or episode of a show, with the low quality of vids on YouTube, anything posted is simply an advertisement. How can any company complain about free advertising? Like someone said above, Viacom should be paying YouTube for the advertising, just like they would have to pay another network to run one of their commercials on it.
In a very similar sense, I also agree wholeheartedly with the concept of giving away low-bitrate mp3s. Most of the reason I don't buy many CDs anymore is because I don't want to end up with a disc that has 13 tracks on it, 12 of which I don't like. With p2p, I can decide if I like something before I go blowing $15 on a crappy CD.
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vanDSLuser
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West Vancouver, BC | According to Wikilaty YouTube could exist without Colbert or Stewart.
It was discussed and is now fact.
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raz58
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Tucson, AZ | Simple solution All Comedy Central/Viacom had to do is follow in the footsteps of CBS.
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Daily Show, Colbert Clips Back on YouTube
show me the money!!!