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join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA | Nice!!! The 360 is the best Box I have ever bought!!! These option on top of the MCE options are GREAT! | |
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
| Bandwidth Caps The cable cos will now be ones to start enforcing the bandwidth caps since some peoples will use the XBOX instead of the cable cos ppv. Also, I can see Micro$oft gaining more moola on this as we will now have to buy the larger hard drive for the XBOX 360.
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Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan | Re: Bandwidth Caps Yeah, if you like pixelated garbage.. I doubt it will offer 1080i content...
They don't even bother to mention the quality in the news release which means that it will be junk and overpriced. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | Re: Bandwidth Caps I read standard definition will be the initial offering with select high definition programs at a higher price. Keep in mind 1080i is not much different in resolution from 720p. Actually they are almost identical. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| Re: Bandwidth Caps said by SRFireside  :I read standard definition will be the initial offering with select high definition programs at a higher price. Yep! 
said by SRFireside :Keep in mind 1080i is not much different in resolution from 720p. Actually they are almost identical. People don't understand that though... all they see is the HD part and think it's all the same. It's not!
After seeing HD @ 1080p, 720p or 1080i is depressing.
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detth
Onemhz On Aim
join:2000-10-06
Astoria, NY | Re: Bandwidth Caps What have you seen in 1080p? What source? | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Bandwidth Caps
Perfume at 720p |
said by detth :What have you seen in 1080p? What source? So far? Just trailers... and some NASA Shuttle launch video a friend sent me.
See pic? That's 720p(which is more or less the same as 1080i) on this laptop's screen.
To me, this is depressing - YMMV.
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cvrefugee
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Corona, CA
| Re: Bandwidth Caps My TV has a native resolution of 1280x720, so anything higher than 720p is a waste. Now, if my TV had a native resolution of 1920x1080, 720p wouldn't look as great as 1080p.
Man dadkins, you act like everything has to conform to you! Just leave us minions be... | |
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | dont need 1080i or 720p even 480 which is DVD resolution is good enough for everyone.
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SimbaTLK1
Rawrrr
join:2001-09-07
Bethel Park, PA
clubs:
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| Re: Bandwidth Caps said by Kearnstd :dont need 1080i or 720p even 480 which is DVD resolution is good enough for everyone. Says who?
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Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan
| »www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···244.html
Well this article says that they will have some HD content..
FYI people saying they don't need HD, or 720p is enough is ok if you have EDTV.
If you have a 1080i or p native LCD, anything less doesn't look so great (IMO, since it's down converting).
I can't get BSG in HD, so this would be cool to d/l off xbl if they didn't charge so much.. As it stands, I can just download a HDTV source encode off BT which looks better than the analogue/SD channels I have to watch it on. | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Yeah, this is all good, but... ...$2.00 per TV show?
Uhm... DVR? VCR?
$4.00 for a movie?
Can you say Netflix boys and girls?
Most "Walk-In" rentals are ~$1.00 per movie, right?
For some reason, this MS - Xbox deal doesn't sound all that appealing to me, ya know?
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| chnctrrrhnry
join:2006-09-29
Philadelphia, PA | Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... walk-in rentals, 1.00 per movie? Where do you live? | |
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captokita
Premium
join:2005-02-22
Calabash, NC
| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... said by chnctrrrhnry :walk-in rentals, 1.00 per movie? Where do you live? LOL! That's funny. Bbuster should be called walletbuster since most stuff is $4 at least.
Some mom n pop movie places can be that cheap, but not many.
Dadkins is right about Netflix though. I'd have to see the quality first before deciding. Do you get to KEEP the show/movie - or is it a PPV type thing, where you see it once and that's it? | |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
·Speakeasy
| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... said by captokita :said by chnctrrrhnry :walk-in rentals, 1.00 per movie? Where do you live? LOL! That's funny. Bbuster should be called walletbuster since most stuff is $4 at least. Some mom n pop movie places can be that cheap, but not many. Dadkins is right about Netflix though. I'd have to see the quality first before deciding. Do you get to KEEP the show/movie - or is it a PPV type thing, where you see it once and that's it? The quality of the movies will supposedly be equivalent to the videos that come pre-loaded on your XBox360 console. There's even a couple of HD videos pre-loaded.
Hopefully, since you can horse your XBox360 to a Windows Media PC, you'd be able to offload it to that for longer term storage.
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Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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1 edit | said by chnctrrrhnry :walk-in rentals, 1.00 per movie? Where do you live? Hercules, CA... Why?
What are you getting ripped off paying for rentals?
Dude! I buy the original DVDs for $5.99 - $7.99. Rent it for $4.00+? I don't think so! LMAO!
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... yeah and it's people like you that make us pay more to make up for your friends in the right places.
It's the same thing when people go to the hospital and skip out on their medical bills. The rest of us have to pay more to make up for other's. (Yes I understand it's expensive and some people cant handle it, it's just a comparison).
I hope you get what you got comming.
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Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
1 edit | Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... Look friend, it's not my fault you do not go to a video rental store where you are known!
I have a friend at the local(not BlockBuster) video rental store, ANYONE that signs up can rent DVDs for $1.00!
My friend lets me know when the new releases are going to get there... Too bad for you!
We also have a RedBox within driving distance(NOTE: RedBox rentals are $1.00!!!!!) ONOES!!!1
»www.redbox.com/
I'm sorry to hear that you do not have a place of business that rents at reasonable prices.
BTW, I *AM* getting what I got coming! Cheap rentals! 
LMAO!
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cvrefugee
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Corona, CA
| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... How can you compare digital distribution to driving to the local video chain and renting a movie, then having to return it? These are in HD, too. Better quality than PPV and you don't need cable or satellite TV to get them, just a broadband connection.
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... said by cvrefugee :How can you compare digital distribution to driving to the local video chain and renting a movie, then having to return it? These are in HD, too. Better quality than PPV and you don't need cable or satellite TV to get them, just a broadband connection. Different strokes for different folks, give it a rest dadkins. Let's not forget how he gets gas for free for all that driving. | |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
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cvrefugee
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Corona, CA
| - There's no RedBox in my area.
- I don't have an HD DVR for Dish so I can't get HD movies that way.
- I don't have a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player so I can't rent them.
- I do have an Xbox 360 with a broadband connection, so for me this would be the cheapest and easiest solution.
You have other options, I don't. Like I said, different strokes for different folks. | |
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cbrigante2
Cubs 20??
Premium
join:2002-11-22
North Aurora, IL
| said by dadkins :...$2.00 per TV show? Uhm... DVR? VCR? $4.00 for a movie? Can you say Netflix boys and girls? Most "Walk-In" rentals are ~$1.00 per movie, right? For some reason, this MS - Xbox deal doesn't sound all that appealing to me, ya know? I look at this service as not really competing with Netflix. It seems more like direct competition to PPV services from Comcast/DirecTV.
The larger hard drive would be nice, but the tv shows that are bought can be deleted and re-downloaded with your live account. Let them pay for the drive space. | |
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RockCake
Premium
join:2005-07-12
Woodbridge, VA | Our local grocery stores use redbox:
»www.redbox.com/index.aspx
Decent selection and only 1.00 a night, which works for me since I don't keep movies more than 1 day anyway... | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs:
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| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... said by RockCake :Our local grocery stores use redbox: » www.redbox.com/index.aspxDecent selection and only 1.00 a night, which works for me since I don't keep movies more than 1 day anyway... I would hardly call Redbox a decent selection. Everytime I check it out the movies they have are horrible.
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Greg_Z
Premium
join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL
·Comcast
| Family Video here in the Midwest, offers two rentals for the price of one $1.00) for seven days. New releases for $2.50 for three days. Video games are about the same. Family Video is the reason that Blockbuster is gone out of Springfield, along with 2nd Cinema. Hollywood Video cannot even compete with them.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Yeah, this is all good, but... Uh huh, yet people above are more or less flaming me because I rent DVDs for $1.00 from a realistic video store...
Screw $4.00 per rental! LMAO!
A buck a pop! It's not Rocket Science. 
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bhazard451
join:2005-01-04
Mahopac, NY | 720p quality is 720p. sounds interesting | |
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shoan
join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR
| I buy a console for gaming not for PPV I am going with the Nintendo Wii this time around. I want my console to play games and that primarily I have other things like a DVR and what not that is used for these sorts of things. I think it is kinda sad that consoles are becoming more concerned about the add on fluff than the games anymore. This and the nickle and dimeing policy that EA is tossing at the gamers with the un-lockable content for a fee. Come on people play the game to get the goodies that is why you bought it in the first place. | |
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unsub
join:2000-06-21
Newton Upper Falls, MA
| Re: I buy a console for gaming not for PPV ..yea let's just leave all that extra ability sitting dormant for nothing.
Adding these things in no way take away from the 360's ability to play games.
Your precious Wii (I'm getting one so don't think I don't like Nintendo) is offering the same types of things.
It's a natural evolution. | |
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aarmenaa
join:2003-03-18
Fayetteville, GA
·AT&T Southeast
| Next Gen As a Media Center I had mostly ignored the next-gen consoles up until last week. I was over at a friend's place and he showed me some of the things he likes about his 360. He plays his stuff on a 17" LCD that he also uses with his computer, and runs it at 1280*1024. He can run games at that resolution - he showed me Call of Duty 2, something that I played at 640*480 on my computer (and it was still choppy).
He can download trailers and game demos and they're fairly quick to download. We're talking trailers in the hundreds of megabytes and demos that are I-don't-know-how-big. In any case, it's impressive and I'm sure it requires serious bandwidth. My family has DirecTV right now and we buy movies all the time. I'm sure that if we could purchase movies through our console they'd consider that too. It would also be nice to ditch our TV service since we hardly use it for anything besides movies.
At this point, I'm still holding out on a new console - we haven't bought one since the Nintendo 64 was cool and new. I don't have an HDTV and probably won't buy one for quite a while yet. But I'll definitely be watching the prices a bit now - a 360 might be worthy an investment even without being able to see the cool HD stuff once the price drops a bit. | |
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX | Re: Next Gen As a Media Center If you're going to wait anyway you might as well check out the Nintendo Wii and Playstation 3 as well, just to make sure you're getting the best of the latest console games for what your interests are. | |
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ablack6596
join:2005-01-28
Scarsdale, NY
| Uhm Xbox is connected to the TV Most peoples Xbox is connected to their TV. I can see buying iPod TV shows to watch on the go, but if you're going to watch it on a TV why don't you get a DVR if you want time shifting?
I can get $1 rentals at my Stop & Shop »www.redbox.com/ | |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Re: Uhm Xbox is connected to the TV Exactly! Thank you!
Anyone that pays $4.00 or more for a freakin DVD rental... I have a couple of bridges to sell them!
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cableties
Premium
join:2005-01-27
Newtown, PA
| Re: Uhm Xbox is connected to the TV Well...I do know a fellow that forgot to return his Netflix rentals...so that monthly fee was now his late fee of $18 for 3 movies ($6 rental each).
Anyway, I am annoyed at slow downloads of Xbox 360 demos and videos as it is. I have FiOS and I get 2Megabytes/sec from some sites. But from MS LIVE, I wait and wait for a 400Meg download of a demo...watching the bar move to the right...slowly...
And with the demos I have and saved games, there is only 10Gig free afterwards. Ofcourse, if I could have BSgalatica downloaded for same price as iTunes Store... hmmm....
Time will tell. All hail our media Center Overloads Overlords! | |
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jeffs471
join:2005-09-16
Camarillo, CA | What About the Games I know gears of war comes out today I believe but I'm not sure that game alone can sway me to finally purchase a 360.
MORE GAMES WITH GOOD GAMEPLAY, less focus on frills. | |
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| pcnetworx1
join:2005-09-21
Bethel Park, PA
| Re: What About the Games Yup, its all frills and shills now. Woe is me. The last good game ever was on this console called NES dag-nabbit
And back in my day, we had to go uphill both ways to get our Betama.... no, FILM canisters. And they cost 80 dollars... per foot of film! | |
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join:2005-09-16
Camarillo, CA
| Re: What About the Games I guess I just can't get worked up about being able to download a video file and play it back on my tv all while my credit card is automatically charged. Seems like a great money making idea for MS and I'm sure they are grinning ear to ear.
BTW there have been many good games more recently than NES. | |
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| JimmyOcean
join:2005-02-14
Apo, AP
| Dude the Box is just something you must have . Its dynamics on Live are unbelievable, there will be almost nothing better on the market in the near future that can fuse so many practical features, replacing pretty much anything in home entertainment. My grandma uses the damn thing sometimes to talk to my cousins in Europe. I'm pretty sure that sometimes in the future the box will have a full blown internet browser along with all the features a regular computer has. Think about it. Later | |
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Supafly
Premium
join:2000-07-15
Lancaster, CA
| Full convergence, months before the iTV? Finally, someone got the memo! This is what was needed from the beginning for legit movie downloading to take off.
You take a service like Movielink, and slap a pretty interface on it that is TV and user friendly, and BAM! instant revenue stream...
Looks like they beat apple to the punch... | |
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
| rental? so, am I missing something here? why not go the subscription route? If I could do $10/month for unlimited on demand renting of movies, THAT would be worth it. Screw paying for a tv show, I did that ONCE for a missed BSG episode on iTunes and felt HORRIBLY ripped off for the $2 since the quality was so pathetic.
Still, at least they're thinking of good uses for the media aspects finally. Now, if they'd only offer a good deal instead of overpriced garbage, it might be worth it. I'd much rather have "rented" movies be as unlimited as possible at fair quality. Sure, they could do HD pay per view, or something, but I'd like to see SD (GOOD quality MPEG-4) have a good bang for the buck.
..the 360 is lookin' cooler all the time, but I'm still awaiting a Nintendo... and I'll probably have BOTH before even considering a ps3!!! | |
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mesmerMAN
join:2006-01-18
Miami, FL | For Those Without 360s, or Think about HD space When you buy something on xbox, you can delete it from your HD, but you can Re-download it.
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
Premium
join:2005-06-29
clubs: | LOL With all this downloading going on, how much longer will it take before xbox live servers CRASH.
Its not like downloading a patch or downloading Gaylo 2 update packs. | |
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buggs1a
join:2000-12-24
Seattle, WA | who cares? Who cares since you can't really use the service when you only get a 13gb or smaller hard drive with the 360. they are going to HAVE to release a huge hard drive for sale or this news is stupid. | |
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
| Missing the point I dont think people are really looking at the big picture here. I have a good PC and a XBox 360 which both run through a 56" DLP HDTV,for me alot of the little add ons dont mean to much to me other than I can download free music videos in HD which by the way looks much better than what I get from my digital box from my ISP. My son is a big gamer, both XBox and PC. Seems like every year I upgrade his PC for him for new games that come out and every now and then I have to go in and tweak it for one game or another. He has a 21" widescreen LCD monitor so he has a choice between his TV or monitor for his XBox but either way it looks good, he is able to download demos and play all he wants for free, he can use his 360 as a DVD player which I got rid of mine because the 360 was much cleaner looking and one less box to have, you can video chat with friends, have voice chat while watching a movie or both be playing different games. The 360 is nice for kids, teens, and even adults because of the fact you can do it all on one thing with good quality. Alot more other things to offer but my point is that it's not just about the topic but about yet another thing they are bringing to the 360 for all to enjoy. I'm not going to get into whats better PS3, Nintendo, ect. I payed a price for something I feel I get every bit of my money plus some to were I'm buying another one(already bought) for my sons birthday Plus they are coming out with a HD DVD player for $200 which I wont buy just because of the fact I'm happy with the quality I got but HD DVD players arent cheap either so again something to go along with the 360 if people want.
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