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Paris Sewers and Fiber Deployment
Developments in fiber-optic telecommunications
by Karl Bode Saturday 11-Nov-2006 tags: Fiber · alternatives · cable
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According to the Wall Street Journal, The city of Paris is helping to lead the transition from DSL technology to fiber-optic cable-based telecommunication by reducing fees for use of the city’s sewer and water distribution systems. The city sewers are the most cost effective way to deploy fiber. A now defunct start-up at one point had been developing a robot designed specifically for the dirty task.

There are currently two Parisian operators providing high speed internet access through fiber optics; Erenis and Cite Fibre. It is expected that the city’s facilitation of the system’s growth will lead to increased provision of this service to homes and businesses throughout Paris, making the city a leader in advancing this new technology.

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mrchris
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Not really

I really think they should have more balls to deal with the "Muslim" situation there first..

mesmerMAN

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Re: Not really

explain!
sancraig

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Re: Not really

Think he's talking bout this:

»www.washtimes.com/world/20061011···275r.htm

ronpin
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Re: Not really

This idea gets some press every 6 months or so. The vendors quickly realize its MUCH easier to forge your own conduit -- than to attempt fiber breakouts every 75 to 100 feet from an existing, active sewer or gas line (works OK for longer point-to-point runs though)
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LilYoda
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Considering I know a lot of ppl in the area, and that I watch the local news every once in a while, I can tell you the whole article is a load of crap.

There has been 3 incidents (Tarterets, Mureaux, and a 3rd cité I forgot the name of) documented in the past 2 months, and nowhere near the 14 officers injured daily by stoning or molotov cocktails.

And aside from that, as others said, your post has nothing to do on broadband reports.
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MsChris

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Thanks for the utterly irrelevant first post.
sancraig

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Re: Not really

Yeah cause fiber is much more important than 2500 police officers lifes.............

nipseyrussel
Nipsey Russell, yo

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Re: Not really

sancraig, what are you saying...that the telecom companies should redeploy their technicians to become policemen?? this is broadbandreports.com, they cover....wait for it....broadband! Most articles here are about broadband. Next article about broadband in the US please feel free to point out that verizon should really be spending their time ending the war in iraq or eliminating poverty before deploying fiber

ThrowDemsOut
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Sounds good, but .........

will you have to wash your hands each time you use your broadband connection ?

Harddrive
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Re: Sounds good, but .........

sound like a shi**y way to get FTTH.

MadMANN
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Re: Sounds good, but .........

Yeah, people will be dropping fiber on their fiber!!

dvd536
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Toilet

I can hear it now about slow speeds.
"My speeds are in the toilet, did you flush?"
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justbits
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Re: Toilet

With Internet service being consistently provided in France's sewers, they're definitely going to realize the tubes analogy that's been so popular here in the states.

As if there already wasn't enough crap on the Internet, France's Internet is going to be drowning in it.

--justbits

pnh102
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Screw the Sewers

I want to see them run service through the Paris underground catacombs
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BPLSUCKS

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Huh?

Good idea though because they are using a system already in place that goes to almost every home that has city sewer. But seriousness aside...sample dialogue:
Wife: Hun the internet is acting slow
Husband: I had the mexican for lunch
Wife: Couldn't you have waited?
Husband: I thought it would make it faster.
enrolk

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Re: Huh?

You have to be flushed to afford it there.
Someone said their tax rate was around 75%. Hard to believe.

fcvsdfvds

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Re: Huh?

Yea that's called socialism the worst form of governement in the world

click_310
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said by enrolk:

You have to be flushed to afford it there.
Someone said their tax rate was around 75%. Hard to believe.
Feel free to read »www.oecd.org/dataoecd/12/55/34674393.xls
taken from here »www.oecd.org/document/60/0,2340,···,00.html
and more stuff here »www.oecd.org/topicstatsportal/0,···,00.html

before pulling numbers out of your ass.

Disclaimer: poster is not French. Freedom Fries ftw :/
patcat88

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P train

The Next thing I will hear in this thread is about the "P [subway] Train" and "go take a P [Train] against the wall".

as always

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as always

As always everything French do is full of sh... . I agree with one of the previous posters. Their "freedom " lead to internal unrest where minority is telling natives to get out and follow their rules. In civilized world, freedom should exists, but there are should be some limitations.
now can someone explain to me are French really overworked population if store is open 10am-12pm, closes until 4 pm, reopens and then closes again 6 pm. And even if you are in store, they will not help you?
claudeo

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It's just one more thing

Unlike many other cities, especially in North America, the core of Paris has a very extensive sewer system built as interconnected tunnels that run below just about every street. You can walk along those tunnels on a raised sidewalk, without stepping in the flow of sewage unless you need to get into a branch that goes to a building. The sewer tunnels have been used to install all kinds of utilities that were not initially part of the plan, such as steam, gas, electricity, "pneumatic" tubes to shoot letters across town, telephone and now fiber, all out of sight. Contrast that with American cities, especially in the West or outside the core city center, where each utility digs a separate trench then fills it up, starting an endless cycle of expensive digging and resurfacing. To save money, wherever possible lines are tacked onto the face of buildings or strung on poles rather than buried...

battleop

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Re: It's just one more thing

""pneumatic" tubes to shoot letters across town,"

Heh I don't know why but that sounds so cool.
claudeo

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Re: It's just one more thing

I don't know whether that pneumatic network is still working in Paris (it used to work between all the post offices, where you would go to send a "pneu" across town), but the same technology is still very much in use elsewhere because it is simple and effective. For example, in those tubes you see going up from cashiers' stations at Costco, which are used to shoot paperwork to and from the office.
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said by claudeo:

Unlike many other cities, especially in North America, the core of Paris has a very extensive sewer system built as interconnected tunnels that run below just about every street. You can walk along those tunnels on a raised sidewalk, without stepping in the flow of sewage unless you need to get into a branch that goes to a building. The sewer tunnels have been used to install all kinds of utilities that were not initially part of the plan, such as steam, gas, electricity, "pneumatic" tubes to shoot letters across town, telephone and now fiber, all out of sight. Contrast that with American cities, especially in the West or outside the core city center, where each utility digs a separate trench then fills it up, starting an endless cycle of expensive digging and resurfacing. To save money, wherever possible lines are tacked onto the face of buildings or strung on poles rather than buried...
Yep, and then every thunderstorm it all comes down. In NYC we do have subway tunnels and utility corridors big enough to walk in (atleast for electric) or drive a car. Telecom is a mangled joke, gas, I dont think you want to be walking inside a gas pipe, but they are direct buried, and the sewers have some walking ability but not everywhere. Not a professional opinion.

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