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join:2001-07-16
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 ·Verizon FIOS
| Tried it.... Downloaded it. Tried it without using a key so I could see what the big deal is.
Just a really really shiny/polished OS without any major improvements (at the current time) that would make someone leave XP.
Maybe when we have software that can take advantage of the new OS it will be worth it, not now though. | |
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join:2006-03-28
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Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
1 edit | Re: Tried it.... Tried it as well. It doesn't seem complete because when your booting, there's no windows logo. Its just that animated bar. Maybe because its in VMWare? Yes the included key works for 30 days, and the cracks on the net do not work. It says 'key already in use' when trying to activate. Its pretty neat but already it shows that some of my apps are just not the same. I'll use this version and VMWare to monitor Vista until its ready for me. If I like it I'll buy it. | |
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join:2001-10-02
Fairbanks, AK
| Re: Tried it.... You are correct that it's an unfinished product to the point they were to lazy to even put the vista logo in the boot screen.
It has nothing to do with it being in vmware and has everything to do with them trying to rush the product to market. (after 5 years of developement, lol) | |
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join:2000-10-14
Peabody, MA
| Re: Tried it.... said by GigahertZ420  :You are correct that it's an unfinished product to the point they were to lazy to even put the vista logo in the boot screen. It has nothing to do with it being in vmware and has everything to do with them trying to rush the product to market. (after 5 years of developement, lol) All of the test versions didn't have the Vista logo there either so I don't think it's going to be there in the final version. | |
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join:2001-10-02
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| Re: Tried it.... In development this is called, "Tighten up loose ends"
It goes hand in hand with a good product, especially one that is $400 for the 'best' version. Your argument is rediculous!
Part of the way you can tell a beta from a real product is the last bit of effort developers must make to really polish it up.
At the very least the "ULTIMATE" should at least have an ultimate startup screen.
DUH? | |
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SexaT duorP
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clubs: | Re: Tried it.... So you're saying that what makes a product worth anything is a boot screen?
Who gives a damn? | |
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join:2002-02-08
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| Re: Tried it.... said by J :...Just give me a working OS!!!! ROFL,
Vista? a working OS... I can't believe it. I bet anything that this pirated near RTM version will be used to test for new exploits by malicious hackers. On January 30th, Vista will ship and the web will already be full of exploits. Too funny.
Ok ok, maybe, just maybe Microsoft did their homework on security but let's face it, their track record and writing a new OS from scratch puts Micro$oft at a disadvantage. | |
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1 edit | .this is the final build, and here is the reason thier is no "real" boot screen as you call it is to make it boot up faster according to isniders at microsoft. Besides, this is the code that went rtm...why would they call this rtm and send it off to manufacteurs if this wasn't the final code.. | |
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Looking forward to the future of things.
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Reading, PA
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2 edits | Hardly looks finished. I doubt a simple windows logo would make it take that much longer to start up. Wanna make it start up faster, omit this screen in its entirety and go to the next high res screen.
Oh well it is build 6000. And yes its no big deal, but I would of thought they'd at least have an opening screen or some kind of windows symbol on there. I figured in the beta's this was not complete because they just didn't create a screen yet. Heck if they don't intend on putting a logo there, why put the (c) Microsoft Corporation. What are they copyrighting, there's no logo or title to copyright. Also if they don't intend to put a simple windows logo, why not center the progress bar and place it in the middle? It just looks like its missing something.
It functions. In a few months I'll come back to it and see how everything works. If I really like it I'll buy it, but so far XP is good enough. Vista really needs a maturity period before I can adopt it. | |
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
| final version will be on p2p soon If this version got leaked,i am sure final final version will get leaked soon as it always happens. Regarding microsoft catching and disabling, it's same thing as with xp, those that know what they are doing can easily get around and those that got no clue get caught | |
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join:2000-09-20
Norwich, CT | Re: final version will be on p2p soon fyi:
The release has the build number 6000.16386.061101-2205.
The key supplied with the warez release is an older RC2-based key, but apparently the Windows setup will allow you to install without a key for a 30-day period. | |
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@poundhost.com
| final is already out there
just check nforce.nl 
like 8 releases
vista = crap
to slow! I don't want a downgrade maybe if they let openGl take care of there desktop environment.
& Where all the RAM going??
linux XGL takes little cpu compare to vista 3D desktop when u move windows around like crazy cpu goes 100% xgl max it takes is 20% i install it my little bro PC A64 3200+ 1GB of ram 9700pro==(got a 5)on vista performance chart. ( not to mention it took 300MB of ram just when i was idle)
I was trying to play back some (anime) in avi format it wasted 50% of cpu + i open a mpeg2 video @ same time and system start it to choke.
this was with ATI WHQL driver. Maybe it was just A64 3200+ couldn't take it but i can tell u i played HD files before on that system and the avi file takes 15% with spikes on 20% on XP i think i even play some H264 with coreavc on it just fine if i remenber correctly.
vista not touching my main rig | |
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maartena
Nice'n Round.
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join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: final version will be on p2p soon said by MSlovepuff :
final is already out there
vista not touching my main rig
People said the same thing about Windows XP and that they would stick with the 9x world or Win2k.
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Elbonia
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| Re: final version will be on p2p soon Yes and XP got pretty good - after the 1st service pack.
Win 98 (DOS series) to Win 2000 (NT series) was a big improvement. Even NT4 to 2000 (= NT 5.0) was a significant improvement. Windows 2000 was the high point of Microsoft's history.
XP (= NT 5.1) performs as well as 2000 only on better hardware and only with a lot of the unnecessary services and features turned off. Its functional improvements over 2000 are few and are not critical.
For Vista (= NT 6.0) to perform as well as XP or 2000 on the same hardware is laughable. Only on *much* better hardware can it be as fast. And when you turn off the frivolous GUI stuff and unnecessary services, is there any real improvement over XP? A few new features, not critical.
Then there's more DRM, stricter activation requirements - IMHO, it's for diehard fans only, and those who have to use it for games or work. | |
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Wandering in subspace
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join:2002-04-15
Tacoma, WA
| Absolutely RIGHT! Nailed it!
Smart SysAdmins kept production machines and office equipment on Win2k till XP/2k3 matured (at least a year)... Same will have to be said about Vista. If Microsoft didn't strap DX10 onto Vista, then it would have nothing substantial at all over XP, other then some eye candy. After all, by the time DX10 games start to come out, along with DX10 Video cards, that's hopefully when Vista will mature enough for us to start considering an upgrade...
Still, doubling my RAM just so Vista can run strict DRM and monitor my activities, will be a tough pill to swallow. | |
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join:2005-02-11
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2 edits | said by maartena :People said the same thing about Windows XP and that they would stick with the 9x world or Win2k. I'm a full-time programmer and power user, and I still use 98SE without any problems. I've been using the same base set of files since 1996 -- installed 98 on top of 95 and 98SE on top of 98, copied everything to a new hard drive 4 or 5 times, switched motherboards/CPUs/cases twice and moved the existing hard drives over. I haven't reformatted or reinstalled in 10+ years. I use this PC 12+ hours a day and everything still runs smoothly, with a rare crash maybe once every 3 or 4 weeks. You just need to know how to maintain a computer. I'll upgrade only because Microsoft dropped Windows Update / patch support for ME and earlier, and newer versions of some apps such as Acrobat Reader and Media Player no longer work with 98 (they would probably run just fine but the companies don't want to support an older OS).
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join:2003-10-01
Columbia, MO
| Re: final version will be on p2p soon XP = 98 + a default theme with huge, ugly title bars and buttons that anyone with sense would change anyway
Um....no...not even close.
While I despise the draconian DRM crap in Vista just as much as the next sysadmin, your statement is utter rubbish, and I pity the people who depend on you for their system administration.
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join:2005-11-15
England
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I'm a full-time programmer and power user, and I still use 98SE without any problems
and then say
and I still use 98SE without any problems
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| Re: final version will be on p2p soon Just like any restaurant that refers to itself as "a fine dining establishment" isn't, anyone who refers to themselves as "a power user", isn't one.
Funny that the MS bashers are striking up the band already, based on nothing. I've used Vista Ultimate--the official RC1 from the customer review program DVD--on a less-than-optimal laptop (2.2 GHz, 1 GB system RAM, 16 MB video RAM) and the only thing that slowed it down is the lack of proper video space. The functionality, however, is all there.
But, you'll never shut up the anti-Microsoft trolls...so just hit "ignore". | |
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join:2003-07-20
Greer, SC | That's why when I'm not on Linux I still have windows 2000 | |
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join:2005-11-15
England
| said by MSlovepuff :final is already out there just check nforce.nl like 8 releases vista = crap to slow! I don't want a downgrade maybe if they let openGl take care of there desktop environment. & Where all the RAM going?? linux XGL takes little cpu compare to vista 3D desktop when u move windows around like crazy cpu goes 100% xgl max it takes is 20% i install it my little bro PC A64 3200+ 1GB of ram 9700pro==(got a 5)on vista performance chart. ( not to mention it took 300MB of ram just when i was idle) I was trying to play back some (anime) in avi format it wasted 50% of cpu + i open a mpeg2 video @ same time and system start it to choke. this was with ATI WHQL driver. Maybe it was just A64 3200+ couldn't take it but i can tell u i played HD files before on that system and the avi file takes 15% with spikes on 20% on XP i think i even play some H264 with coreavc on it just fine if i remenber correctly. vista not touching my main rig yeah but linux XGL is rubbish. Bit like comparing a Ferrari with a Skoda Estelle.
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join:2001-10-02
Fairbanks, AK
| Too many versions Well the fact that they made the stupid move to create 7, yes seven! separate versions of the vista OS is the most boneheaded move they have made as a company in at least 4-5 years.
Hmmm which one do I want to buy?
Windows Vista Starter
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Basic N
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Business
Windows Vista Business N
Windows Vista Ultimate
DUH??? Hmmm... Do you play games? Can I even play a direct x 10 game on any of the starter or business versions?
It's just such a stupid move choosing the right product will be the frustration of many many pissed off customers. | |
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join:2006-09-02
| Overrated... Personally I don't see anything compelling enough to get me to migrate from XP. From Win98 to W2K was NT. From 2K to XP it was better game support. I'm just not seeing anything "great" in Vista; certainly not great enough to warrant the insanely high prices they're asking for it.
I've tried RC2 and to me Vista is to XP what Me was to 98...bloated not better. | |
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5c077
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join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| Microsoft can goto hell... Vista is slower, more bloated and a bigger pain in the ass than XP. The same system will run slower and use more RAM with Vista than it would with XP. There is little to no advantage of Vista, and it is not worth half of what they are going to sell it for. Back in the early builds of Longhorn they were heading in the right direction, then it was scrapped for this "filler" of an OS "Vista".
Microsoft can goto hell for choosing to not make DX10 for XP, what a damn scam to get more people to buy Vista.
Did they really need to use DX to add transparencies and shadows to the UI? Hell no, there are plenty of programs and hacked skins that do the same and more without DX.
*ATTENTION GAME DESIGNERS*... Cease all game development for windows, only compile your games for MacOSX and Linux. (if this happened I would be able to get rid of windows indefinitely).
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whodaheckcares
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| who cares?!?!?!?!? windows vista, whooop-de-do. i'm glad it's already out there. kudos to the "scene". one of my favorite pics is one of a burned cd-r of xp pro with "the" infamous key written on it, taken in front of microsoft's "xp countdown" clock.. with considerable time remaining before 'the big day'.
most people will need a new system to run it in its full glory (dell to microsoft: help us sell more pc's)
more restrictive drm (hollywood to microsoft: help us sell more content)
stupid new ui means corporate retraining worldwide for windows and especially office.
more restrictive retail windows license. (e.g. the single transfer or sale per license)
more built-in "marketing" for microsoft crap. more bundled microsoft crap. mandatory wga crap. nothing but pure, 100% "genuine" microsoft crap.
have you hugged a penguin lately?
now is the PERFECT time to migrate to a different platform, whether it be linux, bsd, or even a mac. do it now, don't get sucked into another round of windows. | |
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MisterMarcus
join:2001-11-10
San Diego, CA
| Re: who cares?!?!?!?!? said by whodaheckcares :
most people will need a new system to run it in its full glory (dell to microsoft: help us sell more pc's)
Please go study some more. I have a Compaq Presario 2500 P4 that's at LEAST 3 years old now, and it passed the check for Vista Ultimate. If my old, loud computer can pass the "Ultimate" test, most users who have bought that cheap computer from eMachines or HP back in the day can also. | |
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@comcast.net
| Re: who cares?!?!?!?!? Not really... If you don't have a decent 3D video card, then you won't be able to run all of Vista's eye candy (what's the point of installing it, if you can't then?)... Also if you have a slow HD and 512megs of RAM, then prepare to listen to your hard drive thrash all day... What a JOY!
Just because I can install XP on PII400mHz with 128megs of RAM, doesn't mean it's going to be a pleasant experience. For those machines sticking with older less hardware demanding OS is a better choice.
So go study yourself. Read up what whodacheckcares said yourself, while you are at it. He said "IN FULL GLORY", not in "crippled condition". | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
·CableOne
| It "passed the check?"
So you checked the sys reqs and your box met them. But did you actually try RUNNING Vista Ultimate with Aero?
It may actually run, but I bet it will be REALLY slow and annoying.
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1 edit | Re: who cares?!?!?!?!? said by PolarBear :It "passed the check?" So you checked the sys reqs and your box met them. But did you actually try RUNNING Vista Ultimate with Aero? It may actually run, but I bet it will be REALLY slow and annoying. Actually I find it faster than XP Pro (the OS I normally use). It's not slower than any other OS at all, in certain functions it's actually faster. Search, for example.
I have Vista dual booted on my machine, and my computer runs just fine under it. The slowest part of it is the screen where you select "Earlier version of Windows" or "Windows Vista". That takes forever to come up, after that things get zip fast. | |
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ARGONAUT
got ping?
join:2006-01-24
New Albany, IN | Sticking with XP Pro here. I don't even what to use Vista.
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
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| Re: Sticking with XP Pro here. said by ARGONAUT :I don't even what to use Vista. I'm sticking with XP Pro. I am sticking with 2k, I do have some things off the WindowsXP (pirated version) I did borrow to make my windows 2000 a bit better.
I have a "dave's windows 2000 superpack" that I made to change a few things around. I included the following
1.) rasPPPoE- To handle PPPoE, you got 10 minutes? you got PPPoE authentication!
2.) Shutdown- WinXP's shutdown command (true with just a different feel you can use Windows 2000's native one, it's not much difference you just have to supply a /l for a local shutdown and you will get prompted for a y/n for shutdown.
3.) Firefox 1.5.0.8
4.) ThemeSaver- For Windows 2000 (create your own theme!)-It's a shareware I picked up a while back
5.) msconfig
6.) WNTIPCFG- for windows 2000 and even XP- a GUI of the old "IPconfig" for Later systems
7.) Batch files for copy commands-backup your stuff with ease!
8.) Some tweaks I found that make some games go real easy (if you have SP4 installed, you won't need them)
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join:2006-01-12
| shame shame it is annoying that they have a home basic which no1 will buy b/c it could be even a step back from windows xp just so they can inflate the price of the other versions
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join:2004-01-04
Houston, TX
| Pirated version Personally I do not have anything against pirated software and here is why:
1. I download it and run for about 2 months on my PC (30 days is not enough for me to determine the value of it) and if I really need/like it, I pay for it. And if not, I uninstall it from my PC.
I did this with Macromedia, Adobe CS2 and Nero 7. But I know that some people continue using pirated soft for the rest of their life.
2. In college I had to take a class to learn FileMakerPro (even though I new I will never use it as there are better ways of developing database-driven websites). I did not want to pay for this program just to use it for 4 months, so I used registry cleaner to reinstall it after trial period was over several times and as soon as school was over, I removed FMPro from my PC. | |
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nekkidtruth
You fail at life.
Premium
join:2002-05-20
London, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| Interesting to see... First off, let me just say that what I'm about to say includes myself.
I think it's really funny to see everyone scoff at Vista and refuse to upgrade to it. What makes it so funny is these are the same people who swore they would NEVER run/install Windows XP on their machines. "It just isn't worth it. 2000 is so much better!".
This vicious cycle will continue no doubt. A year from now we'll all be running Vista and Microsoft will, in another 2-3 years announce a new Windows and the same thing will happen. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat.
I'm on the same bandwagon, remember this before trolling my post
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join:2000-12-31
Broomfield, CO
| said by nekkidtruth :This vicious cycle will continue no doubt. A year from now we'll all be running Vista and Microsoft will, in another 2-3 years announce a new Windows and the same thing will happen. Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat. For most people, yes, I agree. Rinse and repeat.
I can only comment from my perspective. I decided to switch to Linux a bit before the time when Microsoft came out with the ever-more-mandatory WGA stuff. I did not want to rinse and repeat. I persisted with Linux. And boy, am I glad I did. You won't believe how much easier and trouble free it really is, once you get past the initial embarassment of acknowledging that your computer guru status is really only knowledge of Windows, not computers in general. Once you dig in and learn however, Linux becomes much easier. And as time passes and your experience grows, you might well find that it's actually easier than Windows.
Try it, but DON'T expect it to be just like Windows. It's not, and it doesn't want or plan to be. I would not recommend the Linux route for heavy duty gamers, or those who feel they must have proprietary Microsoft technology like Active-X.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | Tried it... ... wasn't impressed.
Formatted partition it was on.
Merged with other data partition.
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join:2000-12-07
Rockville, MD
1 edit | Re: Tried it... It's best to read the reviews from winsupersite.com as more parts get added and see if you really want vista.
Personally, I liked it after using RC1 and RC2 versions. But I'm sticking with XP for now because it's too damn expensive......
XP is the biggest rival for Vista, indeed. (from winsupersite.com) | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| Re: Tried it... Windows vista looks like quite a flashy operating system. Currently Windows XP pro covers what I need right now. I am sure at some time I will upgrade but I currently do not have enough positive benefits to justify the cost of the upgrade and potential slowing of my system. I tested longhorn, and vista for some time now but it will stay that way for now. I figure end of 2008 I may decide to upgrade. From what I saw most things could be rectified in windows sp3 instead of a new windows. As for jumping on the linux bandwagon I think i will hold of for now. I have become pretty reliant on ms outlook and a few other apps. Open office is nice and i have been using it for months now, and it is a good alternative. M$ has me locked in and for now Linux can only has select functionality. For my server I wouldn't switching to Linux I just don't have the time to learn how to manage a new server environment for now. One thing I do want to note is they built vista's features ontop of xp's frame and it failed, which could PARTIALLY be the reason we don't see sp3 with all of vista's features. Just a sidenote
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| more draconian copy control measures to come Vista continues the microsoft trend of going down a slippery slope that is control over your computer lay in the hands of microsoft and their cohorts rather than yourself. people will pay upwards of $400 for this pleasure. my theory is vista will be the last of its kind. future versions of windows will be streamed to your computer, only a minimal os will exist locally. this will cut down on pirating immensely as one wil have to be plugged in to do anything. the era of leased computing draws near. there will be no such thing as ownership, your computer will be property of microsoft, and only microsoft products will run on it. | |
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xpc2600
join:2004-05-14
San Diego, CA
| Re: Why bother? i been silent on this and ive had it. if you peeps are that poed then go by a f*#$ing mac. i agree with the other guy. these are the same morons that swore to never install xp and they did anyway. vista is not a bunch of fluf. alot of the new stuff is transparent and you dont even see it. it's like the same aholes bitch at ms for lack of security with xp and now they put it in vista and you morons still bitch over it. as for drm, well i have no issues with it at all. if the studio wants to protect their property, so be it. i have several drm'ed songs from msn/zune music store and i have no issues with it at all. works just fine. apple is just as the same with drm as ms, but the only difference with ms wma drm is that u can use it with almost every mp3 player on the market except apple ipod with is locked itunes aac drm | |
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The Last Gunslinger Of Rational Thought
join:2002-06-09
Renton, WA | Taylor Troll(R)! So good to see you! Thought you would not give us your valuable (asinine) feedback! | |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| Re: Why bother? said by RandallFlagg :Taylor Troll(R)! So good to see you! Thought you would not give us your valuable (asinine) feedback! looks as if he downloaded it from a P2P network and was not impressed with Vista
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I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | Muh haaaa haaaa. All your Windows belong to us. | |
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | Re: Muh haaaa haaaa. So nice to see you around here again  I don't mean that in a insulting kind of way either. | |
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join:2003-07-09
San Jose, CA
| Triple play: standards, support, games Three reasons why you will switch to Vista before 2008.
games
os support
standards, e.g. better integration with future hardware and software standards. Also because of these standards software/hardware vendors are going to rush towards supporting vista, and vista will of course sway them with perks.
This scenario is exactly like moving from mac os 9 to mac os x
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join:2005-07-21
Williamsburg, MI | Re: Triple play: standards, support, games You know what's horrible, the only thing stopping me from using Linux is my cheap 810 Dell printer. And I'm too lazy to look for a new printer . | |
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toadlife
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join:2004-05-03
Coalinga, CA | Re: Triple play: standards, support, games I've seen em' at Target for $39! | |
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| People will find any excuse to buy into this bloated crap. If you want your games to run faster you need to upgrade your Hardware. Installing a bloated OS that requires greater amounts of resources will do more bad than good when it comes to playing games.
Like Windows ME, Vista brings nothing worth while over its predecessor. | |
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Quentale
@optonline.net | its done it works perfect...activation is already cracked...take that M$@@@ | |
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zipjay
join:2003-03-11
Louisville, KY
| noones thought of this one... i ran the RC1 build and tried playing world of warcraft keep in mind i got a pretty good system.. kept the aero glass on and god was framerate horrible.. nowww i wonder how many kiddies (and computer illiterate people) are gonna get vista and never turn aero off.. and dont say everyone will turn it off cuz i know alot of families out there who keep the xp blue and green skin on sense they had the computer..:P | |
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DeeplyShrouded
@comcast.net
| Re: noones thought of this one... I've been running Vista build 5744 for about 3 weeks now.
Seems to be OK, (AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 2GB Ram ATI Raedeon
X800 Pro) but I really could do without a lot of the eye
candy. I remember when 95 first came out, it was better
than Windows 3.1, but unlike XP, it didn't have a lot of
the eye candy. It was a functional OS.
More and more, it seems as though MS has reached a plateau.
95 was a functional OS. Everything after it is just eye candy.
I think that's my only complaint about it.
It DOES boot faster than XP, but if you tweak XP right and
shut off all the crap that isn't needed, XP is decent.
I know DX9.0c is available as a standalone download, does
anyone know if DX10 will be?
--Deeply Shrouded & Quiet
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| Re: noones thought of this one... said by DeeplyShrouded :
I know DX9.0c is available as a standalone download, does anyone know if DX10 will be? According to what I've read, DX10 will be Vista ONLY. IE you will not be able to get DX10 on XP. This supposedly is one of the ways MS wants to "force" people from XP to Vista....
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pirateboy
@comcast.net
| I just finished installing Vista RTM on a new PC (Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 4GB Ram, 1.5TB Raid-0, evga Geoforce 8800 GTS), and it's pretty fast. The Rating came out at a 5.0, which I think is as high as it goes. Overall, It's pretty impressive, but the activation doesn't work (yet). | |
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thekiefs
join:2005-11-14
Newbury Park, CA | stop calling it RTM please Vista RTM = vista final
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| Vista RTM Pirated P2P version may have been leaked. If this was leaked by a Microsoft employee. What the hell kind of security does Microsoft employ?
Was this "leaked" on purpose by Microsoft in order to get new & tougher legislation passed in order to "prove" software not released to the public is in circulation by "pirates". IMO the try before you buy crowd will undoubtedly take the heat for this, when this was possibly an inside job. I hope it's not indicative of the security promises of Vista itself.
$400 for the ultimate edition. WTF are they smoking or sniffing over at Microsoft.?
C'mon already, computer hardware, IE... CPU's, ram, HDD's and related computer hardware is getting cheaper these days. Yet the cost $$ for an OS doubles?
I don't blame people for downloading it, IMO the aero or 3-D cheap magic tricks should be a feature or added bonus, not an option for an additional price increase. Its not worth the waste of time to download it or the waste of $$ to purchase Vista.
For Pete's sake Microsoft quit playing politics in the form of class warfare with this new OS. I can understand an automobile having upgrade packages at additional cost from the base price, but an OS not having bugs features available to all at a reasonable price. Wonder if the same old exploits and security risks and holes are still included, or does one now pay extra to retain them as well.
Bah, I'll continue to use XP until i can learn Linux better. Then buh bye XP and MS.
What was the Microsoft's motto? Where do you want to go today..
Well its been officially changed to, How much can we rip you off today.
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