  metro305
join:2002-05-31 Durham, NC | Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? Anyone have any info on the details for what codec they are using, the bit-rate of the video, and protection scheme used?
I would not mind downloading my movies as long as it was easy to move from PC to PC with minimal amount of DRM headache. | |
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join:2002-05-31 Durham, NC | Re: Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? BTW the service does not support Linux or Mac according to their help FAQ. | |
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| Re: Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? I found the answer to some of my questions via this link »superman.mediadownloads.walmart.···/faq.jsp
What is the Standard format? The Standard format has quality similar to a DVD. It is optimally viewed on a PC or a TV (via a Windows Media Extender or connected PC). Videos in this format are higher resolution than videos in the Portable format. Standard format videos are encoded at a 640 x 480 resolution with an average bit rate of 1,500 kbps.
What is the Portable format? The Portable format is optimized for on-the-go viewing using "PlayForSure" portable video players. If played on a PC, the image quality will not be as good as the higher resolution Standard format. These videos are not compatible with Apple iPods. Portable format videos are encoded at a 320 x 240 resolution with an average bit rate of 500 kbps.
Can I transfer a downloaded movie to a different PC? Yes, but you need to activate the new PC and de-activate your previous PC. Simply call our Customer Service Representatives for help. They are available at 1-888-227-8458 (6 a.m. to 9 p.m. (PT), 7 days a week).
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| Re: Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? said by metro305 :I found the answer to some of my questions via this link » superman.mediadownloads.walmart.···/faq.jspWhat is the Portable format? The Portable format is optimized for on-the-go viewing using "PlayForSure" portable video players. If played on a PC, the image quality will not be as good as the higher resolution Standard format. These videos are not compatible with Apple iPods. Portable format videos are encoded at a 320 x 240 resolution with an average bit rate of 500 kbps.
Can I transfer a downloaded movie to a different PC? Yes, but you need to activate the new PC and de-activate your previous PC. Simply call our Customer Service Representatives for help. They are available at 1-888-227-8458 (6 a.m. to 9 p.m. (PT), 7 days a week).
They have locked themsleves out of the main portable market? why isn't the IPOD supported, daft decision.
Royal PITA to do anything other than have it on one PC, I'll stick to ripping it via DVD shrink to a backup copy or using a x264 or Xvid codec to get it smaller | |
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| Re: Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? said by Cozworth :said by metro305 :I found the answer to some of my questions via this link » superman.mediadownloads.walmart.···/faq.jspWhat is the Portable format? The Portable format is optimized for on-the-go viewing using "PlayForSure" portable video players. If played on a PC, the image quality will not be as good as the higher resolution Standard format. These videos are not compatible with Apple iPods. Portable format videos are encoded at a 320 x 240 resolution with an average bit rate of 500 kbps.
Can I transfer a downloaded movie to a different PC? Yes, but you need to activate the new PC and de-activate your previous PC. Simply call our Customer Service Representatives for help. They are available at 1-888-227-8458 (6 a.m. to 9 p.m. (PT), 7 days a week).
They have locked themsleves out of the main portable market? why isn't the IPOD supported, daft decision. Royal PITA to do anything other than have it on one PC, I'll stick to ripping it via DVD shrink to a backup copy or using a x264 or Xvid codec to get it smaller I agree. This won't play on my Cowon A2 either. I doubt it'll play on anything.
The only reason to use a propriatery format that is inferior is to control your content. I don't want to pay $5 so they can control the content I paid $15 for once already. -- The Problem With Music.
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1 edit | The iPod isn't supported because the King Of DRM Steve Jobs wont licence Fairplay DRM to any other content service provider ,even though Walmart sells millions of iPods for him .
If anything you should complain to Apple about their DRM not being interoperable outside the iTunes\iPod ecosystem . | |
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| Re: Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? said by peerimpact :The iPod isn't supported because the King Of DRM Steve Jobs wont licence Fairplay DRM to any other content service provider ,even though Walmart sells millions of iPods for him . If anything you should complain to Apple about their DRM not being interoperable outside the iTunes\iPod ecosystem . I think the reason for Apple forcing this is to keep the iTunes system running simple and the way it should. Take a look at the Zune system (how the Fairplay DRM does not work with other Media Player approved DRM) to see how this can get to be a PITA for Joe Consumer. | |
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| Re: Bitrate, Codec used and protection method? said by cbrigante2 :I think the reason for Apple forcing this is to keep the iTunes system running simple and the way it should. Riiiiight. It has absolutely nothing to do with locking people into the IPOS. -- Early to rise, early to bed; Makes a man healthy but socially dead. | |
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  newview Ex .. Ex .. Exactly Premium join:2001-10-01 Parsonsburg, MD | DRM? Not interested.
quote: . . . if you buy the Superman Returns DVD, you can download a DRM copy . . .
BZZZT! No thanks . . . not interested. | |
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  TOPDAWG Premium join:2005-04-27 Midland, ON 1 edit | Good Price If you own the DVD why would you want a PC copy? I'd just rip it to my ipod or whatever too. They should do movie downloads for that price then we're talking. | |
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join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA | Re: Good Price Its about time they got into the video download game. They'll bring the low prices. | |
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| Because legally, you CAN'T rip the movie to your IPOD. Remember the DMCA, well the DVD is protected under that, and if you do rip the DVD, you are going to spend time with BUBBA in the big house! (where's taylor when we need him?) -- Stick it to the MAN. Support your local torrent sites. Proudly providing 10mb of upstream for all your TV, Movie, and MP3 needs. | |
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join:2002-05-31 Durham, NC
| Re: Good Price NPR had a short segment on how a university professor lobbied the Library of Congress for an exemption to cut content from a DVD and master it into his own for educational purposes. What was laughable was how the industry representative said a still from the movie is just as good and there was no need to use video aka moving pictures!!
The following link is from the EFF explaining the exemptions »www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/005021.php | |
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OK time to format the old PC damn thing. | |
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| said by karlmarx :Because legally, you CAN'T rip the movie to your IPOD. Remember the DMCA, well the DVD is protected under that, and if you do rip the DVD, you are going to spend time with BUBBA in the big house! (where's taylor when we need him?) It's only illegal if they catch you.  | |
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join:2005-07-08 K2P OW2 | Re: Good Price i think because the dvd is encrypted you aren't allowed to decrypt it according to DMCA | |
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join:2005-08-10 Evansville, IN | Link me to an article of just one confirmed conviction in the U.S. of someone who only backed-up a DVD for personal use.  | |
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Don't assume that everyone has the time or knowledge to rip a DVD, transcode it and load it onto their PMP.
Besides, $1.97 is pretty reasonable... especially considering Wal-mart sells DVD's as a loss-leader anyway. | |
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| Re: huh? said by steve19726 :Why would you want to spent 3 bucks on a locked down drm copy when you already have the dvd? that's only for the uneducated sheep -- A long time ago, I used to wonder 'why'... Now I just reinstall... | |
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  Oleg Bellsouth Fastaccess Premium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL | Hm
Looks like they have started beta testing of some movies already when you go to: »mediadownloads.walmart.com/mmce/ it asking for Username and Password it say's "Members Only" | |
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2 edits | what's the point of this? How about I rip the DVD and encode it to a better quality xvid myself with no copy protection?
Sounds much more fair to me.
This is what people feared three years ago... the fact that you'd have to pay again to play something on other devices when there was no technical reason for it.
This is awful, I hope no one stands for it.
You lose the choice of what format and quality to encode at, you lose the choice of being able to do what you want with what you get. You lose freedom by buying into this. There's no good reason you should have to pay twice for the same thing.
I agree that if you bought records, you shouldn't get a bunch of free CDs so your music will work with newer systems. But that's not to say that you shouln't be able to rip media you have so you can watch it on the bus or something. -- The Problem With Music.
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  Anonymous_ Anonymous Premium join:2004-06-21 127.0.0.1 clubs: 1 edit | rip off i can go rent it for less then 4.50 \
and have a high quality copy on my computer
(DRM free)
it's also a relly good deal if you get a rent one get one free deal | |
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join:2002-01-03 Schererville, IN | Why buy it twice? If you buy the dvd, why wouldn't you just rip it from the dvd you bought? Plus if their goal is to encourage against personal ripping, why are these drm locked downloads not free with the original dvd purchase? | |
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join:2000-08-12 Spring, TX
| Comment (why is a subject needed for a follow-up?) With DRM? No thanks.
It's not that I have any intent to distribute (or even copy for my own use), just that I don't want to have to put-up with compatibility issues or problems should I want to switch devices, or for any other purpose I might decide to subject the video to in the future.
I probably WILL buy the DVD, however -- availability of a digital download not withstanding (let's face it -- it wouldn't be that hard to find). It's nice to have the printed DVD and case, artwork, etc. The issue is, is it affordable, and, is it WORTH the money? | |
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join:2004-07-12 Mitchell, SD | Why? Why don't they just burn a divx copy of decent quality with DRM on the DVD they sell?? | |
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  AnonProxy Proxy of Anon Premium join:2001-05-12 ß | Does your grandma know how to rip dvd's? I love when dorks call people sheeple or whatever because they don't try and figure out how to pirate videos.
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ANYONE: Link me to an article of just one confirmed conviction in the U.S. of someone who only backed-up a DVD/s for personal use.
...I never heard of that happening.
Just people selling/distributing getting popped...and even that is VERY rare. | |
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join:2002-01-12 233111
| Re: ANYONE Even if you got caught making a backup of a movie you paid for i dont thk the fine is near as big as say sharing it on the internet or selling because your not making a profit off it. Not to mention how hard it would be to catch you and dont thk it would hold up in court very well. | |
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