Time Warner NYC: 10Mbps Additional regions see speed bump Judging from their speed test results, it looks like a growing number of users in the NYC area are seeing the Time Warner Cable 10Mbps/512kbps (standard) upgrades. As we've discussed, the company is offering the speedier service in areas with competition. Parts of Texas, New York and Southern California seeing Fios deployment have not coincidentally been bumped to 10Mbps. The standard speed in many other non-competitive regions remains at 7Mbps, 5Mbps, or even 3Mbps.
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 revuney
join:2003-03-22
Somerville, MA | Good for a few, bad for the rest of us. And yet, they can barely do consistent 5mbps in Milwaukee. Good job guys. Way to go. | |
| |  | | | Re: nothing new Not happening where I live either. An island of Verizon left from the GTE merger means Verizon is not going to deploy FIOS here anytime soon and so TWC is not in any hurry to upgrade their network. Wireless players like Clearwire are not competitive yet.
Wonder if Durham is a good example of the struggling side on the "Digital Divide". | |
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| When Time Warner announced their 10 meg tier at the New York state fair.
I visited their booth and did 2 separate speed tests, I believe I used testmynet
First test did 2.2 the second did 2.6. One of there reps came over and shut down the computer on me while explaining that do to the fair there network was overloaded.
My complaint with TW is that they have not expanded there cabled area in my town in all the years they have owned it, even though many areas meet the houses per mile criteria.
At least my 1.6 mb DSL is always 1.6 | |
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 thender2Glamour ProfessionPremium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY | 512 kbps sucks. I am in the NYC area. If I were to get cable, it'd be by time warner.
...If I wanted 30/10 mbps internet service for the same price, I'd use Verizon.
512 kbps is stone age.. what the hell is the point of 10 mbps down if you can't send at more than what download speeds for DSL were five years ago? | |
| |  roc5955Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY | Re: 512 kbps sucks. It's just a way for them to prevent you from setting up a server, which uploads data. They don't want their network bogged down uploading garbage from every little P2P user. | |
| | | thender2Glamour ProfessionPremium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
1 edit | Re: 512 kbps sucks. said by roc5955:It's just a way for them to prevent you from setting up a server, which uploads data. They don't want their network bogged down uploading garbage from every little P2P user. If this rhetoric were followed strictly in 1999, would we have more than 768/128 now? Or high speed internet at all?
There was an article on DSLR a week or two ago about Iran limiting all internet in the country to 128k so it wasn't used for "culture shock" or some crap like that.. what you suggested is scarily similar.
France does the same thing with music players, for the player to be sold in the country it has to output no more than 1 milliwatt @ either 16 or 32 ohms, I forget which. It sounds like a good idea, let's keep people from blowing their ears out. But what happens when someone plugs a 500 ohm headphone in? They can't hear a thing at any volume.
Keeping things from moving forward in an attempt to minimize usage of a certain bad application of that technology hurts that technology across the board, for any usage. This is no different.
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| | |  xdeadhead220, 221, Whatever It Takes.Premium
join:2000-11-08
Mechanicsburg, PA | one man's trash....
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| | | kd6caeP2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA Reviews:
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| said by roc5955:It's just a way for them to prevent you from setting up a server, which uploads data. They don't want their network bogged down uploading garbage from every little P2P user. What if a customer, who's paying for their internet connection each month wants to set up a server? Or what if a user wants to experiment with high quality audio/video streaming? In other words why not allow users to actually be able to use upload as well as download speeds? I realize that consumer grade internet technologies such as cable and DSL are by design Asymmetrical, but especially with cable, even existing docsis 1.1/2.0 systems are capable of much better upload speeds than what 99% of cable providers give us. Why can't all cable users have at least an option of getting better upstream if that's what they want? If I want 2MBPs or even 3MBPS upload, than why not offer say a symmetrical 3000/3000 tier, which is possible? When will we get the chance to see what cable can really do, and not just in the downstream direction?
I have 10mbps/1mbps through Charter, and I'd be happy if my download remained at 10mbps while the upload got bumped to 2 or 3mbps. One final thing I don't get is while I have Charter 10/1 service, Charter business cable users only get 5/1, so they pay over $200 a month for their internet, and don't get any better internet speeds, not even in the upstream direction where you'd think for that kind of money you'd get at least a bit more speed? What's up with that! | |
| | | | roc5955Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY Reviews:
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| Re: what if you want to set up a server? If you read your agreement with the cable company, setup of servers is not allowed. What's more, is that if you had a server, you would want the same, static IP address all the time. How do you do this with DHCP?
There are plenty of outlets that will host your server for far less than the cost of a Cable connection. | |
| | | | | thender2Glamour ProfessionPremium
join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY | Re: what if you want to set up a server? High upload speed doesn't necessarily mean running a server.
Protools sessions for school can go to about 850 MBs, with 512 kbps upload it'd take three hours to send the thing to someone. With my current upstream speed it would take me 13 minutes tops. | |
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 retiredat44North San Diego County
join:2002-08-13
Vista, CA |  There is no competition here
Their press release 2 years ago said 5/384:
»news.com.com/Road+Runner+picks+u···648.html
We get 3/350 in my area, Vista, North San Diego County. After the Adelphia to TW/RR changeover. RoadRunner says 'they only have 4/384 in my area'. 'The Area Speeds are fixed'. Period.
The other cable services have cut areas out for Cox Cable. The other areas were only for Adelphia (now TW/RR). DSL is not available in my area.
The politicians made each area divided and only 1 cable company can do business in each agreed area.
So thy can decide the speeds and services, and that is that. period.
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| |  hobgoblinSortof AgoblinPremium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:2 | Re: There is no competition here "We get 3/350 in my area, Vista, North San Diego County. After the Adelphia to TW/RR changeover. RoadRunner says 'they only have 4/384 in my area'. 'The Area Speeds are fixed'. Period."
As you have been told on many occasions, once the dust has settled on the Adelphia Migration the areas will be bought into line with standard RR speeds.
There is no reason why You could not go out and start up a cable company in your area to compete with TWC. Just a clue...its very expensive to start one and as many have discovered even harder to take away established customers. good luck with it though.
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| | | | | Re: There is no competition here In Vista, (formally Adelphia) you guy were receiving those download speeds for a reason.Adelphia;s platform was never upgraded.We are in that area laying fiber as we speak(or you complain) I work for the TW San Diego Div. and you will be receiving the same speeds as San Diego,Palm Springs,and Beaumont.Do you actually think you're speed was going to change overnight? Look at you're TV,you're channels are still the same w/ Adelphia.We finished laying fiber in Del Mar,Escondido,and Solana Beach.I guarantee you by Jan. 07 you will have been switched the TW System.Also well be launching the phone in you're area once the upgrade is completed. | |
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|  MacLeechThe one and onlyPremium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
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3 edits | said by retiredat44:The politicians made each area divided and only 1 cable company can do business in each agreed area. The politicians didn't do it (if fact they just voted in a bill to do the exact opposite, lookup AB 2987), economics did it.
Cable over-builders have found it VERY expensive, with long odds and timelines on positive investment returns. Just lookup Altrio, GTE/Americast/Verizon Worldwind, AT&T Broadband, WinFirst, and a slew of others who've tried and failed or gave up... and that's just in Southern California...
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| | Manhattan left out once again When they upgraded NYC to 7/512 they upgraded Manhattan as well, but then downgraded Manhattan users. Once again, Queens and Brooklyn customers have the upgrade, but Manhattan customers don't. This is wrong. | |
| | | | Re: Manhattan left out once again Here in Bayside, Queens - 11364 - I am still getting 2500/470. | |
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roc5955Premium
join:2005-11-26
Rosendale, NY | Not as far up... As the Hudson Valley. Here in the hvc subnet of rr.com, we are still at 5MB/384k
It generally takes a while for us here between Albany and NYC to catch up to the rest of the world. | |
| | | No great speed upgrades here , Fios taken over In my area Hamburg , there are so many signs popping up with Fios installed here , its sad...
Tho i'm getting over 6 meg / 700k , just being greedy.=]\ | |
|  RacerbobPremium
join:2001-06-24
Webster, NY | Still stuck at 7000/384 here Way upstate here in Rochester area we are still at 7000/384. But the competition here is Frontier DSL and they suck for speed. Most recent test for me was 6888/364. | |
|  kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | What happened to Premium tier? Premium used to be 10M/1M - now Standard became 10M/512k what is the Premium tier in these areas? | |
| budice
join:2006-10-18
Huntington Beach, CA | About SoCal.... I'm in one of those areas where they offer the 8M down / 768k up for RR Extreme. Due to all the issues recently they have given me a price break on this and my cable package...$39.95 each. Seeing how this is the Extreme package, and what Comcast charged for the same thing. I'm not gonna say too much right now.
From what I've been told. The 10 and even 15Mbps bumps for much of SoCal has been delayed to December. December 8th for my area. Being at 8M already with the 768k upload works nicely . | |
| Okman
join:2001-10-01
92714 | LOL @ the upload??? all these Mbps downstream, and then you get 384-512k upstream? HHAHAAA that's just funny shiiat! | |
| | | not ever going to happen in arcadia while you guys out there are enjoying 8mbps and above, i still stuck in adelphia network  !! go figure, i was suppose to swift onto the RR network like nov.8th, yes that was the date and two days before a letter came in which stated that they were delaying the switch, and i thought great! im paying more for waht i dont get. i was suppose to get the extreme package but i'm still stuck with 5mbp/850kbps. and that 10mpbs/1mbp sounds so sweet i wish i could have it, but as some of you know arcadia is a pretty small subrub and will never reach competition. ATT&T DSL sucks here and needs a new CO upgrade and Altrio got runn out of business and charter here is busy trying to find its ass amongst all the adelphia networks and wires.
i think its pretty much hopeless for arcadians to ever see sight of something like 1mbp upload speed.
anyone wanna tell me otherwise, that TWC might actually upgrade our networks in the near future? because im paying roughly 40 bucks a month for my connection and i dont get half of waht i pay for because i know they make a crap load of money, i talk to the techs a lot, they make crap. | |
| rmckofke
join:2001-05-15
Staten Island, NY | no speed change for me as of last night, I was still at 7/512 (staten island). 10 would be great, but come on TW, be reasonable with that upload! | |
| bhorow
join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY | 10 Meg will happen everwhere eventually. Obviously competition is a factor. What kind of company wouldn't be competitive. Since they never even published the 7 Meg. 10 is still unofficial. Obviously 10 makes sence, and probably will happen eventually everywhere. If you were a smart company wouldn't you worry about loosing market share, and invest money in those areas, where you could loose market share. Eventually you will see the upgrades everywhere.
Gee people have very little patience with regards to upgrades.
I remember my old 300 baud modem. We've progressed quite a bit in the last 2 to 3 years.
Just because it would be hard to market different speeds of RR in different parts of the New York City. I imagine the goal is 10 Meg for everyone.
People keep asking about Premium, but I have not even heard of anyone here that has premium. | |
| | | | Re: 10 Meg will happen everwhere eventually. Unfortunately I live in a neighborhood that is consider "rustic" which means in proper terminology POOR, our neighbors in Bay Ridge and Park slope have fine service, but here in Sunset Park Brooklyn, the service is horrendus with Timer Warner, we have horrible pings even for cable television, our indemand is good if you don't mind waiting 20 minutes for your indemand program to load up. Internet, dont even think about it. I called a number of times in the last 2 years to complain, I always get "everything seems fine" when I push the envelope and the "tech" tells me yeah we're seeing 1.4 mb, and I asked them what should I be getting, they finally admit "oh around 3 to 5 mb" and then I go well is this normal "No, but 1.4 is still good" and then I have to tell them 1.4 in speed test scenario may still be considered good, but in real time use, webpage, huge files, several people using the connection, it becomes unbearable. With pocket lost, high pings, erratic speeds and of course dropped connections all together. I've had 4 technicians come over and everyone of them admits, yeah your service sucks in this neighborhood, I live around here and I know how bad it gets when it hits 6:00 pm. They dont bother doing any work on your lines, your area is considered..... POOR, even though we have just as many customers here as the "RICH" neighborhoods in Brooklyn, if not more. If you happen to live in a place still considered "poor" by a monolopy's definition, or misconception, do not even bother getting cable, since my upstairs tenents moved out I no longer have to share the service with them, and pretty soon, I think I'll give DSL a try, I know 3 mb isn't as fast as 10 mb, but when three people are fighting for the table scraps of a signal usually our "realtime" speed tests like speakeasy and intel speedtest tells us we're actually getting around 300k, that 3 mb looks pretty damn good wouldn't you say? | |
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