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Uh..Great if you don't download anything? I can't see much of a purpose behind it with strict caps like that. If you stream media or download large files, you're screwed. | |
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Re: Uh..said by Gandalf4503:Great if you don't download anything? I can't see much of a purpose behind it with strict caps like that. If you stream media or download large files, you're screwed. my podcasts alone would kill that in less than a month. | |
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Re: Uh..I think having all that speed, and those caps, would make me cry. | |
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said by mrbandwith:$415.18 a month - Such a deal! Hahahahah that has to be a mistake, right? that's like 2.5 times what i pay now. | |
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Sysadmin
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2006-Dec-14 10:16 am
Re: Uh..What should it cost for 50 Mbps speed?
Said by Surewest's news release: The 50 Mbps product is valued at $259.95 per month.
I just wonder if they really would get someone to pay $415.18 a month for the bundled service? | |
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2006-Dec-14 10:42 am
Re: Uh..i don't know. hopefully, something that people will pay so that it becomes more common. | |
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said by Sysadmin:What should it cost for 50 Mbps speed? Said by Surewest's news release: The 50 Mbps product is valued at $259.95 per month. I just wonder if they really would get someone to pay $415.18 a month for the bundled service? In all honesty its not that bad of a price. I currently pay $130 for my cell phone, $170 for my cable TV plus internet, $20 for my VoIP line, and another $50 for my landline. So my total starts at about $370 per month, and goes up depending on usage and PPV. So $415 is really no big deal, and you are getting so much more on the internet side. As for the caps, I never go anywhere near 40GB (not even 10GB!) so that seems more than fair to me. | |
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nozzer
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2006-Dec-14 4:33 pm
Re: Uh..As far as getting a deal goes you're being screwed. I pay 100 for Cable Tv (ALL CHANNELS, including all the premium movie channels) + 20/2 UNCAPPED internet (RCN), 35 for my cell (free nights weekends+300 minutes) + 30 for my unlimited VOIP.
So a total of about 1/2 what you're paying, and a 1/3 of this "surewest" deal. | |
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Re: Uh..said by nozzer:As far as getting a deal goes you're being screwed. I pay 100 for Cable Tv (ALL CHANNELS, including all the premium movie channels) + 20/2 UNCAPPED internet (RCN), 35 for my cell (free nights weekends+300 minutes) + 30 for my unlimited VOIP. So a total of about 1/2 what you're paying, and a 1/3 of this "surewest" deal. I never said I was getting a deal. In my case, even if I had the option of getting your plan it wouldnt work for me. I use a whole lot more than 300 minutes (and the overage is what kills you!) on my cell, and I would never allow VoIP to be the only phone line in my home in case of emergency. The other thing to consider is that prices are different everywhere. So just as you have a better pricing schedule than some, the SureWest $168 deal beats yours hands down. » Re: Uh.. | |
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huh sound a bit expensive the deal for me
only 40G
that is more expensive dollar per gig then a hard disk | |
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Re: Uh..I would JUMP at the chance to buy the $168 plan that includes TV, unlimited phone, unlimited cell phone, and 10m symmetrical service. Hell, I even think the $415 plan is worth it, so the $168 plan is a dream come true! | |
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| | | |  dadkinsCan you do Blu?
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Doesn't matter, someone will still complain.  I'd kill for that $168 plan! | |
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"$415.18 a month - Such a deal! Hahahahah"
Crazy is more like it. | |
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2006-Dec-14 10:10 am
.and also 5 times more bandwidth | |
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2006-Dec-14 10:21 am
HAHWho the hell is running Surewest, who ever it is needs to be fired, running a business where u offer 50Mbps and capping it to 40GB a month will cause them to have to close thier doors, cause frankly who the hell will get it? | |
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2006-Dec-14 10:25 am
thats a spicy meatballAssuming you can maximize all that pretty bandwidth for your 415$ a month.
rough math...
50Mbps = 6.25 MBps
40000 MB (40GB) / 6.25 = 6400 s
6400s / 60 = 106.67 m
106.67m / 60 = 1.78 h
So for your monthly fee you can use your service at full speed for almost 2 hours. What a deal. | |
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Re: thats a spicy meatballnice math. | |
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| fiberguy2My views are my own.
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Maybe it's not always about running full speed. Maybe, just maybe, some people do the same "activities" each month and just want to get to them faster.
maybe some people transfer some 100 meg files from time to time and don't want to wait several minutes, rather, they'd see them go in a few seconds.
It's not always about "if I get faster speeds, I will download more".. after all, the human mind can still only soak up only so much. Running full speed at 50mb all month, I don't think you'd be able to humanly process all that information yourself, right?
Not to mention, Surewest doesn't strictly enforce the 40gb caps. At one of my locations, we go over and hit 70gb, sometimes regularly... they never say anything. They too will tell you it's loosely enforced.
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Uhm...Y'all are missing something... that includes(per month) - A cell phone, TV, VoIP, and a 50/50 pipe for $415.18(per month). It's not just the services, but the upkeep on all the HW as well. It's a fiber pipe with 50/50 for your computer + digital TV’s highest-end package, Full Color Multiplex, which features over 250 channels and includes every premium channel(plus the STBs) + VoIP(plus VoIP HW). Add into that the cost(and upkeep(like maybe replacements ever needed)) of a cell. Who else is throwing 50/50 fiber? For ANY price? Uh huh... Surewest's 20/20 would do me fine! Hell! The 10/10 would be acceptable!!! Caps? *FOR ME*, 40G wouldn't be a problem - seeing as I rarely go over 30G now.  So far, the 40G cap is speculation. Yeah, this looks terrible, huh? » /archi ··· t=Search | |
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2006-Dec-14 12:25 pm
Re: Uhm...From my perspective that’s over $100 per service (not counting taxes, fees, etc…): much higher than the normal non-bundled rates from other providers.
I can get a fully loaded digital cable or satellite pack with every premium & DVR for slightly less than $100/mo. Phone service with unlimited long distance will cost anywhere from $30-60. Add another $60/mo for a cell phone and that leaves me with about $220/mo for their internet, awfully close to their unbundled valued price. Don’t see much of a savings there.
Yeah, 50x50 is impressive… and excessive for the vast majority of the market. The only reason somebody would justify this services is if they’re doing a lot of downloading or had a lot of users in the household. Of course you’ll now slam into that nice 40 Gig cap faster! | |
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what is the point...of offering these high speeds with the lousiest and smallest caps possible...? this is just sheer stupidity... you don't give someone 3 wishes and then tell them that they can't use them... idiots... | |
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Like I said: Crazy is more like it, esoecially at those prices with caps.
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Re: what is the point...said by Fatal Vector:Like I said: Crazy is more like it, esoecially at those prices with caps. I can't find any mention of caps anywhere. Are we sure that there's a 40GB cap on the 50/50 premium service? Also people are posting comparisons that make no sense. Yeah, you can get a cell for $40/month, but what would you pay for an unlimited cell plan? And where in this country can you get every premium channel for $100/month on cable?? While I understand BBR is not really a "news" site, it would be nice if instead of just linking to the PR the author would contact Surewest and clarify whether caps exist on this service. | |
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2006-Dec-14 3:54 pm
Re: what is the point...There isn't any mention of caps on this plan, which is why Karl posed the question: "But will it have the same 40GB per month caps?". If they had caps on the older plans, I think it's a fairly safe bet they'll do the same for this one. To me, it's not really clear if they even had caps on the older plans. I did a little search through old posts and found people saying they did, and people saying they didn't. Ex: » Re: Surewest Caps. Maybe they enforce caps in some areas and not in others? | |
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True, their press release didn't mention the caps. We're all making an assumption based on their current caps users are reporting on their other uber-services. However, these kinds of press releases are normally fuzzy and warm and won't mention the terms & disclaimers. As for the fully-loaded TV packages I thought I'd do some quick shopping around the country to see if I live in some kind of unique area. Wasn't that hard to find. These are some sample of non-promotional rates for the premium levels of services... Time Warner Cable - Digipic 4000 - $99.95 » www.timewarnercable.com/ ··· kgs.htmlComcast - Digital Platinum - $103.25 (Used a random address in Philadelphia) Charter - Biggest - $79.94 (Used a random address in Kalamazoo, MI) DirecTV - Total Choice Premier - $99.95 » www.directtv.com/DTVAPP/ ··· d=900041Dish Network - Everything Pack - $84.99 » www.dishtv.com/programmi ··· view.jsp | |
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The 10/10 mbit service has a 40 Gig cap, but I myself have crossed it and never heard a complaint from SureWest
The 20/20 mbit has NO CAP.
EDIT: I just found out that the link goes to my own post saying there is a cap. They have changed it since then, the 20 mbit doesnt have a cap anymore, and I doubt the 50/50 would. | |
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Here on Time Warner, Digital Cable is $55.95, it's $12.95 for the first Premium movie package, $7.95 for each additional one, $3 for the Encore Pack, $7.95 for a box rental. That's $103.70. Total of 44 premium movie channels (only 4 of those are west feeds), plus the Premiums On Demand. Add franchise fee and that's about $108, cable TV and internet services are not taxed in NY state. | |
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PricesThe price of this package makes me laugh.
I currently pay:
$150/mo for FOUR cell phones
$40/mo internet (albeit not nearly as fast)
$50/mo DirecTV w/ Tivo
$30/mo Vonage
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$270 total.
For 415.18 a month, they better throw in some complimentary oral sex - well, you get my point. | |
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2006-Dec-14 2:34 pm
caps ouchsuch a tease... | |
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2006-Dec-14 2:40 pm
Useless!With such absurdly low caps. | |
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Fine, but kill the capsNo way Jose, they need to kill the caps.. caps locked plans are angry bloggers but are LAME as surewest customers. | |
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20Mbps plan DOES NOT have a 40GB CAP. Its UNLIMITED.The 20Mbps plan DOES NOT have a 40GB cap. Only the 10Mbps plan has a 40GB cap. I have had the 20Mbps plan since it was released and tech support was clueless if their is a cap or not. Took about 2 hours on the phone for them to determine that there is no cap on the 20Mbps tier and if you look on their website it reflects as such (with only the 10Mbps listed with a cap). I upload about 3TB per month and they know I do and there is no problem. The 50Mbps plan with it being faster will probably be the same as the 20Mbps plan with no cap. | |
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Correct InfoShort and simple:
-The 40GB limit is incorrect on the 20mb service, I'm not going to say any further than that.
-Like every other ISP out there, you download extreme amounts consistently, you'll get a warning + cut off.
-Most routers over a year or two old can't handle the 50/50 speeds well at all. Funnily enough the junky/neutered WRT54G V5 and up work fine though. | |
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