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Final draft approval this week?
(old news - 03:01PM Monday Jan 15 2007)
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Glenn Fleishman proclaims that sometime this week the 802.11 Working Group is expected to approve a draft that should go on to be the final 802.11n standard, barring negotiation meltdown. Final approval is still a ways away, with voting expected this spring and final spec products released later this year. Of course, most of the vendors who have released pre-cert 802.11n gear promise it will be fully firmware upgradeable; we'll see.

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brianiscool

join:2000-08-16
Miami, FL

umm

Wireless-n will be drafted when it reaches 1000Mbs
matrix3D

join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT

Re: umm

Since when was that their goal? I've always heard that 802.11n was meant for speeds somewhere around 200 - 300 Mbps... effectively translating into a "real-world" speed of about 100 Mbps or so. 802.11n was always meant as a wireless replacement for Fast Ethernet (100 Mbps), not Gigabit Ethernet.

Fox McCloud
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Finally!

Finally, perhaps were are getting somewhere....

I still have doubts as to whether or not these pre-N devices will become full-N with a simple firmware upgrade...

Well, I was thinking of just purchasing a pre-N router since the IEEE hasn't done anything on this much...but with this news, I may wait.

Any ideas of how fast the transfer rate will be, and the maximum range? I would suspect that both of these would be slightly higher than pre-N.

Sady
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Firmware upgradeable?

I really like my Belkin F5D8231 router and my 8011 notebook card. I get about 50% more speed then my old G router/card. I payed a premium for the new technology and I sure hope that it is firmware upgradeable. »catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP···d=275346
vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

Re: Firmware upgradeable?

You put too much faith in Belkin's firmware engineers.

LiamJunket
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Hope new drafts address the interference issues

Let's hope that what is in the new 802.11n drafts finally address the issues of interference that has been a big problem with 802.11 pre-n gear. They have a nasty tendency to wipe out connectivity for nearby 802.11g equipment.
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Re: Hope new drafts address the interference issues

I can't find much info about N specifications, but if it uses multiple channels on 2.4 then there is no way around it. If it needs more than one channel then it's for the higher speeds, but pollutes the spectrum.

But if it doesn't need multiple channels then it has to be the MIMO antennas.

The only way I can see to resolve this somewhat is using the 5Ghz spectrum and not 2.4Ghz. Or just shipping them with larger, directional antennas.
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crazygreek

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I like Wireless N because of the interference!

I have like 4 neighbors who don't get the concept of encrypting their wireless network or changing the channel they are on. I would like to get a N router just to mess with their signal. Every year my connection gets worse becuase my neighbors get wireless and have no idea they are giving the whole neighboorhood free wireless or messing up other peoples connections.

DaMaGeINC
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Re: I like Wireless N because of the interference!

simple, log onto their routers, and change them all to channel 11, and set urs to channel 1. Thats what I did.

AnonDOG

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Re: I like Wireless N because of the interference!

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simple, log onto their routers, and change them all to channel 11, and set urs to channel 1. Thats what I did.

What's the law on that in S.C. because in VA it is a felony. Wouldn't want to encourage people to take chances like that before exploring the law in their areas.

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Fox McCloud
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well, you *could* log into each of their routers and, at the very least, change the channel it's operating on. I know it's not technically "right", but it's not harming their network either.

Of course, like you said, if you get a pre-N router, you'll not only have an excellent signal yourself, but you'll suppress your neighbors signals heavily.
fiberguy
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said by crazygreek :

I would like to get a N router just to mess with their signal.
...o.k......

Every year my connection gets worse because my neighbors get wireless and have no idea they are giving the whole neighboorhood free wireless or messing up other peoples connections.
... and does your neighborhood have some sort of a wireless committee? Do you have a set standard as to how many people in your area can have wireless so it stops "messing with your connection?" did you lick the wireless to make it yours first or something?

I fail to see what you are getting at here. You matter and they don't? How is another neighbor infringing on YOUR right and YOUR alleged airspace?
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vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

Manuf. upgrade to final standard offer

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Of course, most of the vendors who have released pre-cert 802.11n gear promise it will be fully firmware upgradeable; we'll see.
I wouldn't hold my breath. The only company who has promised an upgrade to the ratified standard (via hardware OR firmware upgrade) is Asus as reported here...we'll see if they live up to that promise.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

pre-empt wimax

it looks like they are holding to their OPTIMISTIC timetable to have equipment certified by 6/2007.. good for them..
wimax was toying with certifying consumer devices once demand dried up from wireless carriers-albeit a range crippled version (can't have a net of wimax homes competing with wireless carriers on internet access/voip)
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