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A slow ramp up to full availibility
(old news - 09:28AM Tuesday Jan 16 2007)
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The long-awaited Netflix broadband delivery service begins this week, though the initial movie catalog will only consist of around 1,000 movies. Netflix will only be adding around 250,000 users a month at first to help better manage bandwidth demand, but the company's service should reach full stride by June. The interesting bit: if you're already a Netflix customer, you get access to movie downloads without any extra cost. Netflix customers who pay $18 a month already for mail rentals will get 18 hours of video access. The initial launch will work exclusively for the PC, IE and XP only. More detail at the NY Times.

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Available only on computers that run Windows XP and Vista

"Its instant viewing feature, available only on computers that run the Windows XP and Vista operating systems, plays back DVD-quality digital files almost instantly after subscribers install special software from the Netflix site, a process that takes about 20 seconds."
»news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070116/wr_···oad_dc_1

Now that's a problem!!!!!

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Re: Available only on computers that run Windows XP and Vista

No problem at all if you have a Windows PC!

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Re: Available only on computers that run Windows XP and Vista

said by NPGMBR See Profile :

No problem at all if you have a Windows PC!
Well the XP or Vista requirement does cut down the number to about 75% of all home computer users initially. »www.w3schools.com/browsers/brows···tats.asp

But Netflix does claim they will support any device with any browser over time.
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Re: Available only on computers that run Windows XP and Vista

In addition, how about using SlingCatcher (from SlingMedia, ie SlingBox) to route the Video and Audio to any TV, DVR, or recordable DVD.

In fact the SlingCatcher has a Hard Drive add-on to capture video and audio, and it supports HDMI and the other three video connection types, and analog and digital audio.

The SlingCatcher also has the capability to download video/audio directly from the Web and will cost less than $200.

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said by LiamJunket See Profile :

said by NPGMBR See Profile :

No problem at all if you have a Windows PC!
Well the XP or Vista requirement does cut down the number to about 75% of all home computer users initially.
Ummm make it to 94-95% and you're close to reality.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
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Apart from the fact that it's ONE particular browser stats - noone knows from where -, what does it have to do with OS stats?

Once again you're not making sense...

But Netflix does claim they will support any device with any browser over time.
TBH I don't see why wouldn't... OTOH if Windows is supported then they pretty much covered ~95% of the computers of the world (sans irrelevant ones like servers etc).
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Re: Available only on computers that run Windows XP and Vista

said by kamm See Profile :

said by LiamJunket See Profile Well the XP or Vista requirement does cut down the number to about 75% of all home computer users initially.
Ummm make it to 94-95% and you're close to reality.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Apart from the fact that it's ONE particular browser stats - noone knows from where -, what does it have to do with OS stats?

Once again you're not making sense...
How about reading down the page at that link where it shows the OS info:
OS Platform Statistics

Windows XP is the most popular operating system:

2006 WinXP W2000 Win98 WinNT W2003 Linux Mac
November 74.9% 8.0% 1.0% 0.4% 1.8% 3.3% 3.5%
And once again you show that you can not reply to any post without making a personal attack.

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Re: Available only on computers that run Windows XP and Vista

said by LiamJunket See Profile :

said by kamm See Profile :

said by LiamJunket See Profile Well the XP or Vista requirement does cut down the number to about 75% of all home computer users initially.
Ummm make it to 94-95% and you're close to reality.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Apart from the fact that it's ONE particular browser stats - noone knows from where -, what does it have to do with OS stats?

Once again you're not making sense...
How about reading down the page at that link where it shows the OS info:
OS Platform Statistics

Windows XP is the most popular operating system:

2006 WinXP W2000 Win98 WinNT W2003 Linux Mac
November 74.9% 8.0% 1.0% 0.4% 1.8% 3.3% 3.5%
And once again you show that you can not reply to any post without making a personal attack.

I'm still failed to see what a single never-heard stat has to do with the reality on desktops.

Once again you just proved you are way too clueless to even remotely be able to follow such difficult points like Windows 2003 is hardly a favored desktop OS in literally any target audience, let alone NT4.0 opr anything.

All you did so far is this: pulled out some numbers from your bottom part and waving it, without even barely interpreting them.

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DRM

DRM?

EDIT, will this service be DRMed?

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Re: DRM

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Ri···nagement

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Not sure how much of their

soul they had to sell, but i'm glad this is finally moving forward. It's a start. I would think the next step would be to get it integrated into a media center so it can stream to the living room set- which would likely mean the windows variety, not MythTV.

It will be interesting to see what some ISP's think of this. Both from a bandwidth and video-on-demand perspective.


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Its funny

Seems to me that a majority of the people crying foul about this just want a faster way to copy the damn movie. You aren't paying for the movie, but you are paying for the rental service. Who cares if they use their own proprietary video player and protect the hell out of it.

1. You are getting it as part of the cost of renting already.
2. You aren't paying to keep the movie.
3. It is intended to be a view it once or twice and then never again. If you like it that much, go out and buy it.

Some people need to get a grip.
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No choice for Netflix

They had to give their existing customer base free access to the online service.

I was watching Blockbuster ads pimping their stores as a quicker way of returning the movie and not having to wait for a replacement - well, Netflix can tell the lazy customer (like me!) that now, they can download a replacement, no need to drive to some store.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

Netflix is going to have their ass handed to them by Blockbuster and this new bring it to the store plan. This is the best flexing of brick and mortar muscle I have seen. People aren't going to futz with streaming download bullshit for hours when they can go down the block to their blockbuster and drop off the movie and get another one.

If I had stock in netflix, I'd be selling.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

I subscribe to Netflix so I don't have to go to Blockbuster.

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said by Blasterbator See Profile :

I subscribe to Netflix so I don't have to go to Blockbuster.
Dittoes.
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enjoy waiting for your intentionally delayed movies while others pick up news ones from blockbuster.

Zealotry gets you no where.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

Have you ever been to a Blockbuster store? Driving in traffic to get there, the lines once I do get there and the idiotic people... why exactly would I waste my time?

Netflix does exactly what I need.

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Re: No choice for Netflix

I can walk to Blockbuster if I wanted to. You must live in the sticks.....oh wait I see Jackson, MS. No wonder.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

said by inteller See Profile :

I can walk to Blockbuster if I wanted to. You must live in the sticks.....oh wait I see Jackson, MS. No wonder.
Tulsa is the cradle of Western civilization now?

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Re: No choice for Netflix

compared to North Aurora, IL....yes.

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Re: No choice for Netflix

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compared to North Aurora, IL....yes.
But the comparison was not with North Aurora, it was with Jackson, MS?

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Re: No choice for Netflix

Jackson, MS, home of Worldcom crooks....nuff said.

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said by inteller See Profile :

Jackson, MS, home of Worldcom crooks....nuff said.
Jeez, what a retarded arguement. :P

Lets get back on topic here. It was never about blockbuster. This was about free downloads from Netflix. If Blockbuster makes you happy, then great. You don't need to argue your point to the point of insulting other users. :P
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Look, a Blockbuster Troll!

Who cares? This thread is about Netflix and downloads, not Blockbuster and their only selections of BIG hit movies (no obscure or indie films, or if so, in supply) and 90 copies of Open Season with only one on shelf...oh look, the pimple-faced clerk has 4 copies behind the counter but wants to chat about his level 50 WoW character with the other over-weight, pasty-faced clerk-asst mngr.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

Yup. My Blockbuster doesn't even carry Scarface. I was stunned when my friend wanted to see it for the first time and my BB didn't have it.

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said by inteller See Profile :

I can walk to Blockbuster if I wanted to. You must live in the sticks.....oh wait I see Jackson, MS. No wonder.
... posting it from Tulsa, OKLAHOMA which occupies the shockingly high 93rd spot on the list of largest cities in North America?

Hilarious, ROFL.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

said by Trub See Profile :

Like Tulsa is a happening place? Get a grip cowpoke!
Nice, from someone in Plano, Texas. I think the number #1 thing to do there is 'hang' at the Super Wal-Mart....

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Re: No choice for Netflix

You clearly do not know your geography my son. Maybe you do better with pictures! »www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?se···zipcode=

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said by Blasterbator See Profile :

Have you ever been to a Blockbuster store? Driving in traffic to get there, the lines once I do get there and the idiotic people... why exactly would I waste my time?

Netflix does exactly what I need.
One of the reasons I ditched Blockbuster 4 years ago. I used to drop off my returns early in the morning and still be charged late fees because some incompetent monkey was too lazy to check them in on time. If that kind of thing still goes on at Blockbuster, then this ability to return movies to your local store as opposed to mailing them in makes no difference.

Luckily, traffic was not an issue for me as it was for you, my neighborhood Blockbuster is just around the corner from where I live.
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said by inteller See Profile :

enjoy waiting for your intentionally delayed movies while others pick up news ones from blockbuster.

Zealotry gets you no where.
That is exactly why I am now subscribing to Blockbuster and cancelling my Netflix account. They intentionally delay movies from being reported as being recieved, even though you drop them all at the same time. I work at the main Postal facility and know how the system works, when the driver for Netflix arrives to pick-up the thousands of discs. For them to report that not all of the discs have been returned is horsebleep! We won't even get into throttling. See ya Netflix.
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I agree that Blockbuster's new strategy is a great one. Preserves the "need" for the retail stores and provides consumers with choice. Netflix's strategy is also a great one but limited by crappy cappy download speed, non-integrated home media centers, etc. If they can use TiVo's that are already connected via home networks that would be a step, and I think that is their strategy.

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said by inteller See Profile :

Netflix is going to have their ass handed to them by Blockbuster and this new bring it to the store plan. This is the best flexing of brick and mortar muscle I have seen. People aren't going to futz with streaming download bullshit for hours when they can go down the block to their blockbuster and drop off the movie and get another one.

If I had stock in netflix, I'd be selling.
You can only return movies not rent any but 1 a month with Blockbuster. And, look at the crappy selection at local stores that are smaller than Burger King.

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Re: No choice for Netflix

smaller than burger king? WTF? All the blockbusters here are HUGE.
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smaller than burger king? WTF? All the blockbusters here are HUGE.
Most of the ones here have been closed down.
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said by inteller See Profile :

smaller than burger king? WTF? All the blockbusters here are HUGE.
It all depends on where you live; the closest Blockbuster is over 25 minutes away, and it's not a particularly large one at that.

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said by kyramilan See Profile :

You can only return movies not rent any but 1 a month with Blockbuster. And, look at the crappy selection at local stores that are smaller than Burger King.
BZZZZT! Wrong answer. I dropped Netflix ages ago due to crappy delivery. With the new blockbuster system, I can take all three of my envelopes down do to the store and here's what happens:

1) I get 3 rentals of my choice
2) The next day the movies clear my queue
3) My next 3 movies ship.

So, in total, I now have 6 movies when I'm only paying to rent 3.

Explain to me, exactly, how that is only renting on movie per month? Or how that's only able to "return movies"?

Do some research on how it really works before spouting off garbage.
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Thats an extremely shortsighted view. Netflix subscribers that have not already jumped ship for Blockbuster won't.....and that reason is because they are happy.

I myself do not run home every day just to sit on my azz and watch movies. I have dinner dates, homework assignments, Movie dates and other social activities that keep me busy. As a result I have downgraded my Netflix subscription to two out at a time because I don't watch the movies quickly enough.

I belive the only people that are gonna run to Blockbuster will be those like my roommate whose sole existence is to come home watch movies, eat, drink and smoke in his bedroom at every moment he gets, because hes a lazy azz with no life.

Now don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with having a day to yourself and vegging out, and doing things that make you happy.....but my roomie will park his car on Friday after work and go to his room and neither he nor his car would move until its time to go back to work.

He might switch to Blockbuster but im guessing that hes too lazy to get off his butt even if it meant getting movies faster.
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I have had all 3 (blockbuster, netflix and walmart). I like that I can bring my mailer(s) to the store and get another rental right away. Sometimes I want to watch more or less movies that week. This doubled my amount of movies! until someone comes out with a cheap way to download (there is a company that does it over the air) directly HDMI to my TV then I will keep with this.

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said by inteller See Profile :

Netflix is going to have their ass handed to them by Blockbuster and this new bring it to the store plan. This is the best flexing of brick and mortar muscle I have seen. People aren't going to futz with streaming download bullshit for hours when they can go down the block to their blockbuster and drop off the movie and get another one.

If I had stock in netflix, I'd be selling.
Let's not forget that you are forced to watch the movie on your PC now too.
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Re: No choice for Netflix

Not if your PC is hooked up to your TV.

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Which is still the exception. Even at that, I have this wierd feeling that to view movies, you have to have IE open and you're watching it in some kind of window like that.

If this came in some Media-Center plugin i'd be a little happier.
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Let's not forget that you are forced to watch the movie on your PC now too.
Thats why my PC is hooked to my 37" widescreen

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Don't count out Netflix yet.

It is not even worth signing up for Blockbuster Online to be able to trade movies at the local brick and mortar store when the selection at my local store sucks and quantities are limited.

Blockbuster could stand to spruce up their web site also. It is almost as primitive as BMG IMO.
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said by inteller See Profile :

Netflix is going to have their ass handed to them by Blockbuster and this new bring it to the store plan. This is the best flexing of brick and mortar muscle I have seen. People aren't going to futz with streaming download bullshit for hours when they can go down the block to their blockbuster and drop off the movie and get another one.
I'd never even try to deal with BB and its craptastic local staff again, let alone its sorry-ass retarded selection.

If I had stock in netflix, I'd be selling.
I'd buy it. BB has only couple of more years to live then it'll die and noone will cry for them - their store selection sucks compared to Netflix, period.
I'm not interested retarded-shitty, lame American action heroes at all.
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Well the stores in my area are franchises so they don't have to participate and are not as of now. Just like back when they got rid of late fees, half the stores didn't honor it.
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That makes sense. We are led to believe bandwidth costs about 100 times more in canada than in the rest of the world so no netflix in canada ever. It would cost the subscriber millions of dollars.

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Re: No choice for Netflix

You guys have netflix equivalent services (no download though) here in Canada though...
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This NO DOWNLOAD SERVICE

I have been waiting for something like this from Netflix for a while. But this is NO DOWNLOAD. It just streaming. It would have been nice if it was integrated to the MCE PC. Like VONGO/Starz will do with their download service and Vista. AHHH and they do not have limitation on time. All you can see from their library for 9.99
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Re: This NO DOWNLOAD SERVICE

said by chemaupr See Profile :

I have been waiting for something like this from Netflix for a while. But this is NO DOWNLOAD. It just streaming. It would have been nice if it was integrated to the MCE PC. Like VONGO/Starz will do with their download service and Vista. AHHH and they do not have limitation on time. All you can see from their library for 9.99
I agree that Vongo is looking better compared to Netflix. I had them and enjoyed their service (even having a projector hooked up to it). Although money is a bit tight, so I unfortunately have dropped them (tis' the price of being a substitute teacher only at one school.... soon I hope to be working at others!), but first I dropped my cable TV service. Even downgraded my connection to RR Lite @ $26.95/mo. due to not being able to get re-rated at the intro price. Oh well, tis' better than dial up.

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Great!!

This is great news. Now they just need to allow us to download movies directly to our Tivos.

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Blah

I will pass, would be much more tempted if I could watch these on my tv with out having to have a computer hooked up to it. I like to watch movies on my tv and don't want to mess around with hooking u computers or software problems. If they made a netflix box that was easy to use and hooked up to the tv this would be an interesting idea, but then again do I really want to buy a extra box . I think I will just stick to the dvd servce.

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http://www.netflix.com/InstantWatchingRollout?lnkctr=yas_wnopt

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It would be nice if it worked on the Wii

Tivo would be nice as well, but for us Wiii users, it would be nice if it worked with the built in Opera browser.
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downloads

now for all of us who use Comcast HSI, this will simply let you get to your invisible download cap window faster. thanks Comcast =)

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I don't want to "rent" a movie and watch it on my monitor

I'll save it for my TV instead.
If you have a media PC then I guess this would be cool.
If they managed to stream 1080p or at least 1080i for movies then I might be in also.
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Dadkins?

Where's dadkins with his chime about the video store he goes to and gets any DVD he wants for $1? I must have read about it 4 or 5 times

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Re: I don't want to "rent" a movie and watch it on my monitor

does anyone know what resolution and bit-rate it will be?

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With netflix, you are paying for dvd's mailed to you. Get them watch them on your pc or TV. The ability to download and watch on your pc (or tv if its hooked up) is just great bonus.

I switched from netflix to blockbuster a while ago. I loved netflix, but BB gives you more for the money. If you just compare renting 3 movies, they both arrive in your mail, and both have same selection. However, BB - evil as it is, also lets me take my movies to their store and walk out with 3 new rentals. There is no late fee if I return them in under a month from whey they were due back to the store... pretty reasonable. My store is not huge, but is big, and has great selection. All the pop movies, all the "old" pop movies, and lots of random movies I never look at. You can rent army of darkness if you want to. Finally, I also have 1 coupon per month I can print out and take to the store to get a free rental. Our BB store is close (maybe 1.5 miles) so we pass it frequently.

So, why would anyone choose netflix over BB?
1 - no good store nearby = lose of the benefit. Sucks for you, but don't say BB and flix are the same. Same for you but not for others.
2 - on principle, many people just don't like BB. Netflix on the other hand is breaking new ground. I'd rather give netflix my money and feel guilty for using BB, by I do prefer the opportunity to get so many more movies.
3 - BB website still not close to netflix. BB site is OK and functional, they finally have ajax and all that, but netflix multi-queue works better for any family with more than one movie watcher.
4 - Streaming Movies. Honestly, they have to make this free to compete. The other 3 reasons won't switch anyone. I don't like it [yet] because I don't have TV hooked up to my PC. My friend has HDTV hooked to his PC, and downloaded movies are great. I worry a bit about a streamed movie. Last thing you want is choppy internet affecting your movie. The other thing, streaming quality is NOT DVD quality. Don't kid yourself. I want dvd quality + surround sound, and I want it in my living room.

I would like to switch back from BB to netflix. I'm loving my BB service, but I like NF as a company. I hope their streaming thing works out. Maybe a year or two when I have HD and a fancy gaming console in my living room I'll switch over.

cj1974

@verizon.net

netflix

does anybody know what resolution and bit-rate they will be.
lvrdad_45

join:2001-09-18
Fort Worth, TX

Re: netflix

Still like Vongo, put 5 movies into que at night, and wake up with 5 movies downloaded and ready to view each day. Much easier then having to mail movies back or go to a standing store.

netman2670

@comcast.net

Re: netflix

Yeah, that walking to your mailbox thing must be a killer. LOL.
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