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"The school's principal didn't either: "We've never had a problem with pop-ups before or since."
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| Re: The ignorance Also sounds like the defence wasn't very competent either... If it's a criminal court, I'm sure it wasn't impossible to raise some doubt in the juror's minds. Could also be something about how people react to children/pornography...
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| Re: The ignorance On top of this blunder, they hired a tech that had proved malware was on her computer before she entered the classroom. They didn't present the malware case to the prosecution so the evidence was barely admitted into the court room. One can only hope that the appeals pull through. The tech has offered his services pro bono. This lady needs a new lawyer. | |
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| Re: The ignorance said by kyramilan :-It was a SUBSTITUTE Teacher And they are disposable human beings
said by kyramilan :-She never called Tech about the problem So that means it was intentional?
said by kyramilan :-Apparently, she was too stupid to unplug it after it was popping up for seven hours Many computer illiterate become quite stupid in front of a PC. I get many calls a week from people's who's computer is frozen up and they can't figure out how to get it to turn off. It seems obvious to me, but pull the plug.
said by kyramilan :-The Defense team never examined the computer (the school didn't find any spyware or anything either) Actually they did and they proved that the spyware was there before she got into the class. They also proved that students had browsed to websites that are likely to contain spyware.
said by kyramilan :-She couldn't explain how it got there Back to the above, they did explain. The problem is that her retarded lawyer didn't present the spyware issue at the correct phase in the trial and the evidence was not permissible in court. So basically the court found her guilty because her lawyer screwed up.
Even if this was deliberate the maximum this lady should see it termination from her job. What those kids saw that day didn't hurt them in the least and isn't anything most of those kids haven't seen anyhow.
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clubs: | What a nightmare. I feel real bad for that lady. She has been put through hell because of retards. | |
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Bonne Terre, MO | Not knowing the whole story.. I can see the teachers argument. So many people who don't know much about computers get bombarded with popups.
A friend told me yesterday she had like 14 popups every time she opened IE and did not know they were suppose to go away..lol | |
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| A Jury of Your Peers said by the jurors :
Jurors didn't buy it: "All she had to do was throw a coat over it or unplug it. We figured even if there were pop-ups, would you sit there?" Tough crowd. Seems to me that a lot of people might panic if they're suddenly greeted with such material in front of minors, especially if they had no reason to believe the machine was prone to it. I wonder how many of those jurors would have thought to "throw a coat" over the screen in such a situation. How handy was this coat she was expected to use? What about during the warmer months? Should the teacher have disrobed to cover the screen? Will we now have state-mandated screen covers hanging conveniently by every school computer screen. I can see it now, they'll look like glass fire alarm covers, labeled "In case of naughty bits, please break glass."
Terrible, terrible thought process by a jury of simpletons. Especially one whose verdict carries the weight of such an egregious sentence of 40 years. Forty years for what amounts to at the worst carelessness. This is why you folks shouldn't weasel out of jury duty. It might be up to that jury to look stupidity in the eye and reject it. This jury failed in that.
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| Re: A Jury of Your Peers While I agree about the coat, common sense would have told her to turn off the monitor, the computer, or, if not knowing how to turn off a computer, unplug the thing.
Anyone who does not know how to unplug any device using an AC outlet shouldn't be out of the direct supervision of a trained health care professional and absolutely shouldn't be teaching in a school under any circumstances.
On the other hand, this 40-year sentence is total BS and I would hope an appeals court would correct this. | |
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| Re: A Jury of Your Peers In the testimony, it was brought up that she was given direct orders not to turn off the computer for any reason.
Common sense might say that porn popups are a good enough reason to turn off the computer, but that was the reason behind not turning off the computer. | |
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| Re: A Jury of Your Peers said by marigolds :Common sense might say that porn popups are a good enough reason to turn off the computer, but that was the reason behind not turning off the computer. Common sense seems to go out the window when some people use computers. That said though, the worst she should have gotten was a stern talk from the principal or maybe even never getting a sub job in that school again. Criminal charges and jail time is way overboard. | |
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Lawrenceville, GA | Re: A Jury of Your Peers Common sense doesn't exist at government schools. Mistake one. | |
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| The fact that the school has a tech on hand suggests that her school might have the same lame-ass policies as the university and highschool that I attended. Both had policies in place where nobody was allowed to turn off, unplug or modify the machines in any way except the IT staff. This applied to both students and staff, so the if a terminal froze on a prof, he couldn't do anything about it himself either. If my terminal froze up or started doing anything weird, I had to march down the hall to the IT office and bug the tech to fix it. If I or a prof/teacher tried, we risked suspension for "hacking" or "unauthorized tampering with computing facilities." As penalties go, academic suspension (for the student) or suspension without pay (for faculty) is pretty serious stuff. It's not 40 years in the clink, but it'd still make a person reluctant to turn it off. | |
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Land O Lakes, FL | Lets not forget the jury heard and saw evidence, unlike most of us that only experienced media sensationalism. | |
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| Re: A Jury of Your Peers Let's remember that a jury in this case would have anyone that understands technology beyond the level of the doorknob removed by the prosecution. I'd be interested in the demographics of the pool.
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Land O Lakes, FL | Re: A Jury of Your Peers And the defense should be fighting to remove anyone that does not understand technology beyond the level of the doorknob.
In the end it comes down to which side made a more convincing argument. | |
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| From what I've read, a kid was using the computer when the pop-ups started. She pushed the kid out of the way, shielding him from the images and started attempting to close the windows. A total of 8-10 kids actually saw the pop-ups.
As to why she didn't turn off the computer, she's a substitute teacher. The permanent teacher for that room had signed her in earlier that day. He told her that she was not to shut off the computer no matter what. She's a computer novice too. So when the pop-ups happened, she could have either pulled the plug, violating her orders and locking her and the kids out of the PC for the rest of the day, or she could keep the computer on and try to deal with the pop-ups.
She tried to deal with the pop-ups and keep the kids from seeing them. My question would be: Did they question the normal teacher for the room? If there were porn pop-ups, they could have been from a spyware infection prior to the substitute teacher getting there. It could have been that the normal teacher browsed some porn sites, getting the pop-up infection and the substitute is the one who got the blame. | |
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| Re: A Jury of Your Peers Two girls in the class were using the computer prior to the sub seeing it....HMMMM They were the ones she pushed aside when she saw what was on the screen. I also read in a different article that the computer was NEVER checked for ad-ware prior to the case. | |
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| Re: A Jury of Your Peers said by Kearnstd :Juries are soft for children, put it this way.. if i hit you with my car on a dark road i can probally weasel out of jail time, if i hit a kid with my car in the same enviroment im going to jail because it was a kid. It's just the rationalization I quoted that bugged me. As if they're capable of making such a judgment. I know juries are soft on children, but that woman will be in jail long after those "children" both gain and lose fascination with seeing the very parts this jury wishes to protect them from.
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| OMFG! <SARCASM> I'll feel a lot safer once this woman is behind bars. This is a great use of our courts! God bless the religious right!</SARCASM>
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| Re: OMFG! said by ib50MbSoon :<SARCASM> I'll feel a lot safer once this woman is behind bars. This is a great use of our courts! God bless the religious right!</SARCASM> Well said
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Col Klink
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| said by ib50MbSoon :<SARCASM> I'll feel a lot safer once this woman is behind bars. This is a great use of our courts! God bless the religious right!</SARCASM> *Sigh* Sad, sad, commentary...
There are laws. If you break them, there are consequences. It matters not if you "feel safer", that's not the point of laws. And your knee-jerk blame of the red herring religious right is equally sad. The religious right doesn't enforce laws, they don't make laws, they don't really have much effect on the body politic at all. But gosh, isn't it fun to blame anything that may smack of morality on those seething religious conservatives hiding in the shadows ready to pounce on porn-loving folks.
The teacher broke the law. There's consequences, but no where near severe as the headline makes it out. She's never going to get 40 years in prison for this, its highly doubtful she'll get any prison time. Most likely she'll lose her job, and get some sort of probation.
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| Re: OMFG! Well said Klink. And this is Connecticut. I think finding a jury of all religious right conservatives would be very hard in Connecticut.
I'm a Christian conservative, and I look at porn and don't care. I told some people I know about this story and everybody thinks this big hoopla over some porn is nuts, and the sentence is nuts (and central PA is very conservative). That' right you arrogant liberals, most people don't fit into your stereotype of conservatives. Ironic, how you open-minded, anti-racist, anti-prejudice liberals stereotype us all the time. | |
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wig - militant moderate
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| said by Col Klink :said by ib50MbSoon :<SARCASM> I'll feel a lot safer once this woman is behind bars. This is a great use of our courts! God bless the religious right!</SARCASM> *Sigh* Sad, sad, commentary... The religious right doesn't enforce laws, they don't make laws, they don't really have much effect on the body politic at all. But gosh, isn't it fun to blame anything that may smack of morality on those seething religious conservatives hiding in the shadows ready to pounce on porn-loving folks. Ohh, but it can be argued that religion does influence some laws. Hence, the religious politicians that we have in office.
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| Re: OMFG! said by hopeflicker :Ohh, but it can be argued that religion does influence some laws. Hence, the religious politicians that we have in office. Note the term "religious right". I'm not going to argue that people will note vote from their personal belief system that may be influenced by their religion. Nor would I argue that there aren't politicians that make it plain and clear what religion they ascribe to. To do so would be foolish. But the concept of "The Religious Right" as an army of right-wing locusts chewing through the political landscape making laws pivot on their agenda is simply dead wrong.
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| Tell me what law did she break? Not knowing how to stop popups resulting in kids seeing them? Not knowing what to do with spyware? Being a computer novice? There is nothing here that requires even a lost job or probation. Except perhaps in the case of their tech support.
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| No, the sad commentary is that COMMON SENSE has gone out the window.
Your comment that the consequences won't be bad, maybe she'll only get probation, tells me that you're either very young, or completely clueless.
It doesn't matter if she doesn't get ANYTHING but a conviction, it will F**K her life for years and years and years. None of those damn kids is going to suffer any sort of ill-effects having seen a few porn popups. So STFU.
They're going to ruin this lady's life for something stupid like seeing a little T&A. Most of those kids have seen some of that stuff by that age anyway.
Hell, I'll bet money the popups are the result of some little turd surfing porn in school.
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| Re: OMFG! said by emptywig :... None of those damn kids is going to suffer any sort of ill-effects having seen a few porn popups. So STFU... ..Most of those kids have seen some of that stuff by that age anyway. Hell, I'll bet money the popups are the result of some little turd surfing porn in school. And your comment tells me you must be a child-psychologist who obviously knows the effect of the adult-centric world on the adolescent mind.
Is one to assume that you have been exposed to pornography as a child and as such its helped you to write such a lucid and well-thought out response to my post?
And yes, I do think its a shame that this woman will have this on her record, however, I, unlike you, do not assume I know all the facts in this case, as I do not. I do not presume the "damn" 13-year olds in the class are "little turds" , an indication of the high esteem in which you hold adolescents.
What I do know has been presented by media outlets that need to sell advertising and think that putting "Teacher Faces up to 40 Year in Prison for Showing Porn to Students" headlines will garner that.
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| I haven't attended anything that could be construed as a religious event or meeting in over 30 years, so I don't consider myself as part of the religious right.
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| well There is negligience here.
She left a computer, on, and not locked. Even as a substitute, Ctrl-Alt-Del, via task manager, lock it. Or Start/Logoff User. (if mac, shift-apple-q)
5 seconds. That's all. 40 years? That is absurd for this. I smell more going on. Sniff.
And, the students clearly were able to logon, search for hair style sites (how is this, where a school doesn't have a proxy?).
I hold the school liable for having technology that isn't protected. The teacher should be disciplined, yes, but something like fired or without pay. Checking PERSONAL mail at work is a no at most coporations, so schools allow this?
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Collegeville, PA | Re: well She couldn't lock the computer; she didn't have a username and password.
And the law in question requires _willful_ action, not _negligent_ action, so even if you're right, she was unjustly convicted. | |
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| Re: well There appeared to be no intent on her part. However, if she knew about the popups and decided to take a chance with the computers anyway, then she was reckless (the legal definition). Then there is negigence, where she had a duty to protect the kids from those images when they appeared, even if she never knew about them.
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| Re: well Again, the law requires willful action. Not negligent, not reckless. And it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt.
The standard the jury seems to have used, that if she missed the opportunity to do something about it (e.g. throwing a coat over it) then she's guilty is about as far from proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she committed a willful action as you can get and remain in the same county... | |
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| That's a Win98 system without any anti-virus software, so sorry task manager will not lock the computer. As a matter of fact, many spyware/adware won't even show up on Win98 tasklist.
I read her testimony somewhere about trying to close all those pop-ups by "clicking the red close button". I was thinking to myself, "Red close button on Win98?" She's was clicking to frameless IE windows that looks like XP windows!
The School's filter software subscription was expired at the time due to, guess what? unpaid fee statement. There is a federal law that requires all schools should have protective measures for children to access the internet. The school was failed to do so and trying to railroad the sub teacher. Shame on them. | |
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| Stupid stupid stupid Let me guess: the jury is composed of 50-70 year olds who have never used or touched a computer in their lives.
Isn't the content of a PC projected on the wall via a projector in school classes ? How could she throw her coat to cover the entire wall? Or was the whole class watching something on a 17 inches monitor ?
This is so ridiculous, I cannot believe the U.S. government is wasting time on this STUPID STUPID STUPID case. So what, the kids saw some breasts, some penises, perhaps even a simile of intercourse? Is it going to kill them ? It's not like she simulated sex in front of them with a dildo or put a tape on purpose. Who hasn't been the victim of pop-ups in the past? I am disgusted.
The casual American, so prude and offended by the slightest sexual symbol, what I guess represents a majority in the juror to say something as stupid as that, is a big fat joke. Give me a break. You are porn manufacturing central in the entire world!
What they should do is give Sex ed classes, and explain porn is simply a commercial activity to satisfy hormonal needs and reflects in no frickin' way the reality. But no sir, it's way too taboo. Instead let's put in jail an innocent woman.
40 years in prison is a joke. People commit murder or ram their cars into pedestrians because they are irresponsible drunks and they can get away with it. EDUCATE THE IDIOTS PLEASE !
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First I had bought a used Kirby vacuum cleaner. Got it for $10 but I needed to find a belt for it. So I went online looking for Kirby information on google. Up pops a link that indicated it was official Kirby site with parts and owner's manual info.
I clicked on it (the link) and one thing after another started coming up on screen so badly I couldn't even close Firefox I had to hold the power button on the puter and shut 'er down.
The next time I was looking up info for a treadmill recently from Vision Fitness again the link on google promised to be official Vision Fitness info. Click and up pops queer sites guys doing strange things to each other. While not as aggressive as the Kirby thing (did not have to shut computer was able to just close FF) it was still disconcerting at best. | |
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I hope the judge goes very light on her because there was probably zero malicious intent and zero preplanned doing of this.
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| Re: Retarded jurors and they wonder why there is such a teacher shortage.
if I were a teacher, I would not have anything to do
with computers unless the school held me harmless for
any clearly unintentional harm such computer may do.
most 7th graders have seen tons of porn on their own,
whether their parents are willing to admit it or not.
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| We're all gonna die! Kids have seen naked people! Possibly naked people feigning reproductive sexual activity! We're all gonna die! Those kids are all going to have nightmares, flashbacks and PTSD for the rest of their lives! And wet dreams! They may be permanently disabled! They'll grow hair on their palms!
In order to prevent any chance of this sad waste of human life happening again, let's make all sexual activity illegal, start kids on drugs to suppress sex drive from puberty on, and make sure approved parental types have access to artificial insemination under controlled, licensed laboratory conditions. Better yet, let's just harvest the little darlings and raise them with computers so they won't be messed with by ignorant and malicious parents and teachers.
Or, we could just relax and return to splattering the brains of good and bad guys on Wii, Xbox and whatever other kill-or-be-killed video adventure venues we choose.
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| Re: We're all gonna die! i agree with this guy... other countries in the world show nudity on regular OTA television.. yet USA is stupid in this regard and is so anti-porn its ridicilous..
what country in the world has the #1 porn industry yet its gonna get a teacher locked up in jail for 40 yearS?!?!
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Mccleary, WA
| "Till at last the child's mind is these suggestions, and the sum of the suggestions is the child's mind. And not the child's mind only. The adult's mind too-all his life long. The mind that judges and desire and decides-made up of these suggestions. But all these suggestions are our suggestions... Suggestions from the State."
Is this whats its coming to.. A Brave New World...
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Kamaz
join:2006-01-26
Elizabethtown, PA
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February 14th, @11:50AM
| WTF... "Julie Amero faces up to 40 years in prison..."
For exposing 7th graders to porn, and I already started when I was in 6th grade.
Of course she should get in trouble if she did this on purpose. The problem I have is, child MOLESTERS don't get up to 40 years in prison. I mean, I'd just like to shoot child molesters and get it over with. At least they deserve life in jail. But this woman could get up to 40 years just for showing porn (and probably NOT on purpose). What in the hell... | |
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lettcco
join:2003-12-04
Valencia, CA | she should be ok... If she is as hot as Debra LaFaye, right?
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | no names Didnt someone say that ther user is responsible for porn pop up some of you know his name lol. | |
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Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-01
IA
| Punish the school management »www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/14···ro_case/
This is ridiculous. Most kids of that age already know a lot about sex. Also they were giggling while watching pop ups. I am sure that was devastating to them.
She was a bad teacher but she should not be facing 40 years in prison.
School should be fined for not properly setting up their computer network. | |
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