BPL Industry Still Hopeful But focused on promoting monitoring tools first Tipped by Karl Bode 
In addition to the interference concerns, many electric utilities simply aren't jumping at broadband over powerline (BPL) because they're risk averse and aren't sold on the financials of getting into the broadband business. A recent roundtable at the Wharton Technology Conference featured Current Communications, who note that they've been trying to sell utilities on just using their technology for its "smart network" benefits, then will consider providing BPL down the road. "If we didn't shift the business from broadband to SmartGrid, we would not have landed business," admits one Current investor.
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 | | Can we limit this to One Article a Month? It might never work. Check. Ham operators hate it. Check. Other than pronouncements that it may happen, is there anything else I need to know? Nope. | |
| | | An awful lot is made of the fact... That Hams are against BPL. The Hams concerns are valid, and their scholarly opposition, backed by good science, is something of a "canary in the coal mine" for many other services.
There are a lot of other things of importance that use the HF spectrum. US Air Force for one. Why? Because in critical RF communications services, you really want a lot of redundancy. If HF is rendered unusable in some places, you have problems come crunch time.
HF can be rather valuable stuff at crunch time.
All in all, this BPL thing has all the makings of Commerce going head-on at Common Sense. | |
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: An awful lot is made of the fact... Yes and now that the international Morse code testing requirement is dead we will have bunch more people using HF  
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| | | | | Re: An awful lot is made of the fact... Sure, and I kinda think that is a Good Thing. Kinda. On the other hand, come a Real Crunch Time, nothing is gonna get your message out real far like a good fist. | |
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Layton, UT
kudos:1 | Re: An awful lot is made of the fact... Cell phone! *innocent look* | |
| | | | | | | Re: An awful lot is made of the fact... said by RayW:Cell phone! *innocent look* Ask those poor people down on the Gulf Coast how well their Cell Phone messages got out after Katrina got done with them.
A small generator, a low power HF radio and a CW key can get that traffic out rather smartly, and pretty far. | |
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Layton, UT
kudos:1 | Re: An awful lot is made of the fact... said by TScheisskopf:said by RayW:Cell phone! *innocent look* Ask those poor people down on the Gulf Coast how well their Cell Phone messages got out after Katrina got done with them. A small generator, a low power HF radio and a CW key can get that traffic out rather smartly, and pretty far. You are preaching to the choir.
We had a talk the other day from a doctor with the LDS Humanitarian Services. She said she was at her mom's house in Florida not too far from the tornado's path (they just lost most of the roof). She had TWO cell phones AND the land line, all three of which were busy for about four hours. Not broken, just overloaded. She said the outdated ham radio was the only reliable communication for that four hours.
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| | | | | | | | | Re: An awful lot is made of the fact... And there's the rub a lot of our "Telecom Geniuses" here don't realize: In times of real emergency, you might need the communications NOW, and the infrastructure might have gone away for days, weeks or months, if Katrina is any barometer.
With a car battery, a length of wire, a radio that fits in the palm of your hand, some paddles and a set of cans, yer' talkin' to someone. | |
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| the truth is out! sounds like BPL can't even stand on it's own merits.
Power companies may be conservative and risk averse, but I would think if they thought they could make money off of BPL, they would do it.
Maybe they don't really think it will work out so good for them -it hasn't yet. | |
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3 edits | The Continuous Wave Jamming Signal of BPL ...... Dah dit dit dit _ dit dit dit .............repeated....
Bravo Sierra Alert......Investors in BPL systems....remember the dot.bomb era????????
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Utilities that want BPL should remember their Part 15 responsibilities as an unlicensed user of HF spectrum.
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| | | | Re: The Continuous Wave Jamming Signal of BPL ...... Look,bpl goes over power lines,once a major disaster hits,those lines will prob not be working in that area...Then let them s.o.s out while the bpl is down....Forward with techonology...Get a satelite phone when u need some help spend that buck a min...Whats your life worth!!!! BPL come to my town!!!!!! Don't let the fun of a few stand in the way of millions of people,and millions and millions of dollars!!!!! | |
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| | BPL interference is non-issue BPL progressed worldwide is reaching new heights. Investors continue to pour money in Europe for this new technology... not the OLD BPL TECHNOLOGY that creates interference signal.
EUROPE`S OPERA and FCC supports this newest technology out there.
200 MBPS is the way to go !!! | |
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Burlington, CT | Re: BPL interference is non-issue I agree with the general premise that BPL will be a useful tool to accomplish utility applications. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that we need a smarter electric grid, and that data communications are a critical part of that. But we all need to differentiate in our minds between those applications and the medium used to accomplish them. BPL is the medium, not the application. Although there may be value in using the electric wires to develop the smart grid, using the grid to control the grid has its technical risk, as the control system will fail at the same time the grid fails, during the time it may need to be controlled the most.
The new technology creates interference too. The difference is that the present generation does a better job at the techniques it uses to address or prevent interference. For example, in five BPL areas I have tested lately, "notching" was in place for all of the Amateur bands, and it was generally effective. Although it is probable that some small problem areas may exist for the Amateur bands, the systems generally did not create harmful interference for Amateur Radio, and any remaining problems could be addressed on a case-by-case basis.
Ed Hare
ARRL Laboratory Manager
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318
Email: W1RFI@arrl.org
Internet: »www.arrl.org/bpl | |
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