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Did you know Internet connected devices access the Internet?
(old news - 09:29AM Wednesday Feb 28 2007)
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Back in January a reporter wrote a demonizing report on the Nintendo Wii, dubbing it a "porn gateway" simply because the device could access the Internet via broadband. In the process, she downplayed the device's robust parental controls, and even falsely attributed an adult's quote to a child in order to make the story more scary.

Now Kotaku reports that a Christian group has launched a public awareness campaign to warn parents that junior could be exposed to mammaries in between bouts of Wii Tennis. Other than the website's fairly inane revelation that an Internet-connected device can access the Internet, it looks like the group is simply advocating decent parenting -- and at least in the process discusses the Wii (and its parental controls) with some degree of accuracy, unlike previous more inflammatory reports.

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hopeflicker
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OMG!!!

Will someone please think of the children.
No wonder religious folk get a bad rap
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Re: OMG!!!

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No wonder religious folk get a bad rap
Yeah, I know. Every time I see something like that I cringe because a blanket name such as "Christian Group" usually spawns lots of criticism for ALL Christians, myself included (because I still am actively involved in much of the IT business, though not my day to day job).
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Re: OMG!!!

Wait, criticism for all Christians is spawned because you are actively involved in much of the IT business? I think I am misunderstanding something here.
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I think it is good that people are trying to inform non-tech savy parents about the possibility, but that's as far as it should go. Parents might know to watch their kids while online, but they might assume playing the Wii is safe from porn. Face it, some parents probably know little to nothing about game consoles.

If parents are concerned, just pull the network plug. ...but they would have to know about the possibility first.

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Re: OMG!!!

said by mglunt See Profile :

I think it is good that people are trying to inform non-tech savy parents about the possibility, but that's as far as it should go. Parents might know to watch their kids while online, but they might assume playing the Wii is safe from porn. Face it, some parents probably know little to nothing about game consoles.

If parents are concerned, just pull the network plug. ...but they would have to know about the possibility first.
I didn't have to read the manual to know my car had seat belts, a horn or a ashtray. WIFI abilities are in nice plan print on the box and if the ignorant parent can't read, guess that's Nintendo fault too.

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I'm 100% Christian-Catholic but my goodness this is ridiculous. If Wii is bad then what do they think a computer is? What a waste of reading this truly was. If parents can't control what their kids do, it's their own fault plain and simple. Don't blame it on a company who has good intentions just simply making it easy to play each other online and narrow the gap of distance.

Yes it is things like this that give the religion a bad rap .
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Re: OMG!!!

said by dslwanter See Profile :

Yes it is things like this that give the religion a bad rap .
Trust me, it's more than 'things like this'.

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said by dslwanter See Profile :

Yes it is things like this that give the religion a bad rap .
Trust me, it's more than 'things like this'.
I said things like this. That's all and won't go any further. Please don't start. I'm Christian and would appreciate it if this didn't go off topic intro a reasons of why you and many others may feel Christianity is a bad thing.
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said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

said by dslwanter See Profile :

Yes it is things like this that give the religion a bad rap .
Trust me, it's more than 'things like this'.
I said things like this. That's all and won't go any further. Please don't start. I'm Christian and would appreciate it if this didn't go off topic intro a reasons of why you and many others may feel Christianity is a bad thing.
I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see "the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended.

EDIT: two apologies for the price of one!

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said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see "the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended.

EDIT: two apologies for the price of one!

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Re: OMG!!!

said by dslwanter See Profile :

said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see "the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended.

EDIT: two apologies for the price of one!

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Re: OMG!!!

I resemble that too!

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said by dslwanter See Profile :

said by Titus Pullo See Profile :

I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see "the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended.

EDIT: two apologies for the price of one!

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...immature atheist mayhem like the Prayer Request Thread in the New Features Request forum did a few weeks ago.
I resent that generalization towards atheists
Yeah, and nothing like the religious organizations being "cults" you referred to as below in another thread regarding boy scouts though is it? My comment wasn't directed at atheists, it was directed at immature ones who bash faith publicly. I don't judge by creed I judge by personality. And what you just said in regards to my last post and what you said below about religious organizations now puts you on my immature list.
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Yeah, and nothing like the religious organizations being "cults" you referred to as below in another thread regarding boy scouts though is it?
Hey, i like making generalizations too

Regarding the Cult thing, someone on this board has a great sig "if it offends then it must be true".
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Re: OMG!!!

And yes, the Mormon religion is a cult. They practice very bad things.
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Re: OMG!!!

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

And yes, the Mormon religion is a cult. They practice very bad things.
Such as?

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Re: OMG!!!

google is your friend. look it up for yourself.
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Re: OMG!!!

I used to be a member of that church and know for a fact there is a lot of information out there that's bogus. So what I really want to know is what bad things have you confirmed. I can Google Area 51 and home built time machines and get tons of data... hardly any of it trustworthy.

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

google is your friend. look it up for yourself.
Google? You site GOOGLE as a valuable and reliable source!? How ignorant can you be? ANYONE can post a website and have it crawled by google! How about finding some information with some credible sources! Anyone can say anything about anything on the internet!
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said by SRFireside See Profile :

said by hopeflicker See Profile :

And yes, the Mormon religion is a cult. They practice very bad things.
Such as?
Such as aggressive anti-social proselytization tactics. I shouldn't have to tell a proselytizer more than once that I am not interested. Yet on more than one occasion after after repeatedly saying I am not interested and even having the Morman POS follow me down the street as I tried to get away from the jerk I have had to threaten them with calling the police to finally get the POS off my back. I have seen traditional religionists (non-cultic) out proselytizing and they are typically very polite about it. I have never been harassed by one of them. Since this has happened several times now and involved different Morman proselytizers I have no doubt but that they are trained to aggressively pursue converts.
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Re: OMG!!!

Sounds like you haven't run into any Assembly of God folks in your neck of the woods. Around here they are loud and proud and don't mind being rude to get their point across (at least in one part of town). Truth be told what you're describing is not a Mormon-wide policy. The missionaries are supposed to spread the word and drum up new church members, that's for sure. However in my area there is no harassment of that sort from them. Maybe the bishop in their ward is a bit overzealous about his theater count.

Like any church you have some people who push their religion too far, use it as a crutch to avoid their own issues, use it to further their own greedy ambitions, use it to feed their fears and intolerance of those different from them, use it to look down on 'non-believers', and all sorts of other non-spiritual ends. Remember church was made for man and not the other way around. That means man's limitations will be reflected in his churches.

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said by SRFireside See Profile :

Sounds like you haven't run into any Assembly of God folks in your neck of the woods.
My neck of the woods is teaming with them. The worst I can expect from them is they will set up a PA in a little park downtown (always the same two or three women) and torture everyone in the area with the most god-aweful "singing" you've ever heard. Other than that I never had one follow me down the street ignoring my pleas to leave me the #311 alone.

"Theater"?? Sorry but my personal sphere no matter how small while in public is not yours or anyone else's "theater" to be exploited, regardless of the religion, mission from god or cause involved. If your religion is legit, if it is the real deal then quit talking about it and start living it. People will begin to beat down your door to find out what you've got that they don't have.
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said by hpguru See Profile :

"Theater"?? Sorry but my personal sphere no matter how small while in public is not yours or anyone else's "theater" to be exploited, regardless of the religion, mission from god or cause involved.
I think you misinterpreted 'theater count'. It was meant for the number of people that have joined the congregation. You know... like how movie makers look at how many people bought tickets (theater count) and don't care how they got the viewers to buy the tickets. As in it sounds like the Bishop wants more members and compels the local missionaries to "be earnest (pushy) and bold (rude) in their Godly mission."

said by hpguru See Profile :

If your religion is legit, if it is the real deal then quit talking about it and start living it. People will begin to beat down your door to find out what you've got that they don't have.
Not sure if you're talking to me directly or just commenting on pushy evangelical practices in general. The Mormon church is not my religion. It used to be a long time ago. I'm a Christian, but I'm no evangelist. I live my spirituality for myself and my family and prefer not to be in the evangelical sales and marketing game.

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Re: OMG!!!

No it was a general statement.

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

And yes, the Mormon religion is a cult. They practice very bad things.
actually they don't 'practice' any 'bad things'
Take this coming from someone that used to be mormon, and, bares no 'bad-blood' to the religion.

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

Regarding the Cult thing, someone on this board has a great sig "if it offends then it must be true".
That's the kind of response you're giving then? Wow. See my signature then...
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said by dslwanter See Profile :

like the Prayer Request Thread in the New Features Request forum
That was a fun thread.

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said by dslwanter See Profile :

If parents can't control what their kids do, it's their own fault plain and simple.
115% Correct...

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said by CPM See Profile :

Can't these parents read the manual. Wii does have parental controls.
Do you read the manual for your gaming console? What's the big deal? All the website is doind is informing people about the parental controls.

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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

Will someone please think of the children.
No wonder religious folk get a bad rap
NEWS FLASH!!! The idiot religious nut who spent money on buying the Wii doesn't HAVE to buy it. I am sure any church would agree, you should be reading the bible instead of browsing the web.
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said by hopeflicker See Profile :

Will someone please think of the children.
No wonder religious folk get a bad rap
NEWS FLASH!!! The idiot religious nut who spent money on buying the Wii doesn't HAVE to buy it. I am sure any church would agree, you should be reading the bible instead of browsing the web.
[sarcasm]Yup, according to the Church, you should divest yourself of all property, no TV, radio, video games, movies, cars, houses and money. You should be giving that money to the Church instead of spending it on "entertainment" and other comforts, such as a house or car. [/sarcsm]
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Re: OMG!!!

Depending on what church you're talking about, that may not be sarcasm.

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Shoosh! - Tom Cruise and John Travlota might be listening...

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If yo0u don't want them to access the internet...

Don't set up the connection. Pretty easy to me.

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protect us from ourselves!

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Fear

I think we're just devolving into a society of fear-mongerers. Instilling fear is about the only thing that keeps some people like these going.

People with a shred of common sense will know this is bull but it's a pity most these days lack sufficient common sense to know the difference between right and wrong.
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People with a shred of common sense will know this is bull but it's a pity most these days lack sufficient common sense to know the difference between right and wrong.
Agreed. Unfortunately, common sense isn't common.
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That's all fine and good, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Re-read the article. Maybe go to the link and read the website in question.

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I don't see the problem.

The Wii can be used to get porn. Children groups want to educate parents about this possibility. This is a good thing as parents do need to be aware of this possibility.
If they wanted to pass a law, try to start a boycott, or blame the Wii then that's a problem. But, if they just want to educate parents so that parents can do whatever it is they decide to do in response, then that's good.

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Beat me to it, apparently.
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The Wii can be used to get porn. Children groups want to educate parents about this possibility. This is a good thing as parents do need to be aware of this possibility.
If they wanted to pass a law, try to start a boycott, or blame the Wii then that's a problem. But, if they just want to educate parents so that parents can do whatever it is they decide to do in response, then that's good.
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Fear Mongering/ Banishing the Constitution/ etc

Just a few topics people are throwing out there already.

I really don't see what the big deal is with this group's page (other than the big C word). It seems very reasonable. They're not saying don't buy the Wii or your child will go to hell, they are saying 'hey, this thing can surf the net and here are some ways to protect your child if you wish to do so'.
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yeah

what he said ^
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More Religious BS

Why cant these groups be lead by Jim Jones? Religious fanatics need to be treated as a mentally ill. I'd like to know how this pack of assholes determined that the Wii is a "porn gateway". Do they even have one? I think probably not. I showed some friends the browser on the Wii over the weekend. They laughed at how difficult it is to use and hard to read. Maybe the Christian Coalition should focus more on teaching people how to be good parents instead of worrying about a phantom porn problem that doesnt exist.

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Wii-mote games?

Ahh, this peoples is complaining now, wait until some perverted Japanese game developer comes up with adult theme SM games using the Wii-mote controls. (oh, come on guys, you know this will be the ultimate party games ever made.)

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Ahh, this peoples is complaining now, wait until some perverted Japanese game developer comes up with adult theme SM games using the Wii-mote controls. (oh, come on guys, you know this will be the ultimate party games ever made.)
Damn my wrist is sore from wii "bowling"
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Unfairly Targeted?

It's great that they want to inform parents, but I think it goes a bit too far when the start exclaiming the Wii to be a "porn gateway" and the bane of society.
All next-generation consoles have network access capabilities and, fortunately, most have parental controls.
Yet, I don't see parental groups parading around for the PS3 or the 360 shouting, "Porn Gateway!!" "Porn Gateway!!"
Any device with network access today could be used as method of obtaining pornography.
I think these groups should be better informed themselves, before they start to try and inform the public.
It looks like the blind leading the dumb.
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If that a**hole Al Gore wouldn't have invented this whole series of pipes in the first place, we wouldn't have to worry about this now would we?
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Re: Unfairly Targeted?

I do like that fact that they are teaching these idiots about parental controls instead of downplaying the Wii....by the way.. anyone here knows how to get PORN on my Wii?

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said by porkchops See Profile :

It's great that they want to inform parents, but I think it goes a bit too far when the start exclaiming the Wii to be a "porn gateway" and the bane of society.
All next-generation consoles have network access capabilities and, fortunately, most have parental controls.
Yet, I don't see parental groups parading around for the PS3 or the 360 shouting, "Porn Gateway!!" "Porn Gateway!!"
Any device with network access today could be used as method of obtaining pornography.
I think these groups should be better informed themselves, before they start to try and inform the public.
It looks like the blind leading the dumb.
That's true, PS3 & Xbox360 have access, but the Wii is a NINTENDO product, generally marketed to family/younger gamers. I think that's why it gets more flak for it than the others. I think it's a bunch of hoo-hah anyway. What's next? "Your Wii can steer your children to free thinking websites that differ from ours!!!"
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They forgot another group...

What about the radial muslims? Hey, they won't even let you have a TV much less a video game (unless it was a suicide bomber game where you have to kill as many infidels as you can.)

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Why just the Wii

dont the PS3 have a web browser

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duhhh!

The parents they're trying to inform are too lazy to read the manual for the protection of their children, but they're more likely to go to a webpage "theporntalk" to find this information...right?
$20 says the computer they would use to check out this webpage would be unprotected and flooded with porn already.

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FYI

Jesus owns an F'ing Xbox 360, yo.

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This topic/article just outright amuses me. What do I have to say? Well..kids gotta get into that crap somehow, don't they? Despite myself having unlimited access to do whatever I want online since I was 12, I never cared for p04nz.. I are so screwed up in the head.

;O and Jesus owns a Wii!
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I thought he owned a PS3

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Oh, he does. He just favors the Wii over the PS3.

I heard he's going to put the PS3 on Heaven-bay for $666, including a few games. He's intending on selling it to Satan..

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Hope he did his research, b/c otherwise his purchase might melt without external help.
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Damn them. The Wii is a witch I tell ya!

It can access the internet WITH broadband! Who would have thought.

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A Complete Fabrication A New Low for Reporting

Well perhaps DSL report and Kotaku could do use a favor and name this Christian group. I have been both to the Christian Collation and Family Research Council websites and found absolutely nothing. The hysteria as for as I can see started by one blog entry referring to another blog which was picked by another. There plenty of nutcases inside and outside religion but a blog entry do not make a movement and a license to criticize an entire group of Christians.

I guess I am not being clear. This story is a complete fabrication created by cobbling together a few blog entries. If there is a Christian group behind this then name it! Perhaps by new the hysteria over Wii has spread to some more gullible Christian forums but I believe this rumor was not started by a Christian group but a single bloger and it got out of hand after than.

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Re: A Complete Fabrication A New Low for Reporting

Christians and technology just do not mix. First they make unlicensed nintendo games for NES and SNES, and now they're fussing about the Wii? What gives?

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said by richardpor See Profile :

Well perhaps DSL report and Kotaku could do use a favor and name this Christian group. I have been both to the Christian Collation and Family Research Council websites and found absolutely nothing. The hysteria as for as I can see started by one blog entry referring to another blog which was picked by another. There plenty of nutcases inside and outside religion but a blog entry do not make a movement and a license to criticize an entire group of Christians.

I guess I am not being clear. This story is a complete fabrication created by cobbling together a few blog entries. If there is a Christian group behind this then name it! Perhaps by new the hysteria over Wii has spread to some more gullible Christian forums but I believe this rumor was not started by a Christian group but a single bloger and it got out of hand after than.
No, if you follow the links, you will find that the blog is run by Ethur (»www.ethur.org ), which is a christian faith-based org in California.
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Christians try to destroy Nintendo on crusade against porn

"This highly popular and very fun gaming console is one of the hottest items out there and is a blast to play. But because the device is a Wi-Fi (wireless internet) console able to access the internet, this means that you can surf the net pretty easily...
Well the good news is that you can do something about this Wii little problem. Nintendo has installed some parental controls on the Wii device which will help block access to porn sites and limit where your child can go on the internet."

Oh wait, they're just warning parents they need to activate the parental controls.

Sorry to interrupt, please continue the Christianity bashing.
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Re: Christians try to destroy Nintendo on crusade against porn

Which, had they setup the system, would have already known about. Its part of the setup. If they were not part of that, then read the book. Either way, it takes less than 1 minute to know that the Wii has parental controls. There is no Wii little problem if parents actually take the time to act like one.

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Re: Christians try to destroy Nintendo on crusade against porn

either you didn't read the blog, or your reading comprehshin fails.

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Read the Blog Stupid

Maybe that title will get some attention.

If you read the blog you would clearly see that they are in no way, shape, or form trying to bash the Wii or blame it for your child seeing porn. They are simply letting the readers know that it can be used to access the Internet, and/or porn. Then they tell the readers how the can enable the parental controls.

Damn Christians for trying to be good parents.
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Bicycles and shoes too!

I think I need to protest Bicycles and Shoes too. You see, kids can use those to get on the street. Have you seen all the terrible things on the streets?

That makes just about as much sense.
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Kamaz

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Re: Bicycles and shoes too!

Did you even read the website? Did you take notice to my post right above yours? They're informing people to turn on the parental controls. Just where exactly are they protesting against the Wii?

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drakker, you didnt read the article, or your reading comprehenshin fails.

DrModem
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lol

I see almost evryone in this thread is either stupid, narrowminded or hasn't read the article.

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Hey look, gang!!!

Your daily dose of pH33r. From The Ministry of Fear and Demogoguery.

Fear: It's what made this country what it is today, isn't it? I mean, aren't all great nations based upon their fears and trepidations?

Oh, wait...

DrModem
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Re: Hey look, gang!!!

hey look gang he didnt read the article and began passing judgement! shame shame shame to you sir.
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