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| Re: OMG!!! said by mglunt :I think it is good that people are trying to inform non-tech savy parents about the possibility, but that's as far as it should go. Parents might know to watch their kids while online, but they might assume playing the Wii is safe from porn. Face it, some parents probably know little to nothing about game consoles. If parents are concerned, just pull the network plug. ...but they would have to know about the possibility first. I didn't have to read the manual to know my car had seat belts, a horn or a ashtray. WIFI abilities are in nice plan print on the box and if the ignorant parent can't read, guess that's Nintendo fault too.  | |
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1 edit | Re: OMG!!! said by Titus Pullo :said by dslwanter :Yes it is things like this that give the religion a bad rap  . Trust me, it's more than 'things like this'. I said things like this. That's all and won't go any further. Please don't start. I'm Christian and would appreciate it if this didn't go off topic intro a reasons of why you and many others may feel Christianity is a bad thing. -- "You're as worthless as a screen door on a submarine!" Check out my Internet Radio Station & DJ Service, »www.thebomb102.com. | |
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1 edit | Re: OMG!!! said by dslwanter :said by Titus Pullo :said by dslwanter :Yes it is things like this that give the religion a bad rap  . Trust me, it's more than 'things like this'. I said things like this. That's all and won't go any further. Please don't start. I'm Christian and would appreciate it if this didn't go off topic intro a reasons of why you and many others may feel Christianity is a bad thing. I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see "the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended.
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| Re: OMG!!! said by Titus Pullo :I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see " the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended. EDIT: two apologies for the price of one! -- I just mis-understood you. No offense taken. I'm concerned though that this board is going to become a Christian bashing immature atheist mayhem like the Prayer Request Thread in the New Features Request forum did a few weeks ago. -- "You're as worthless as a screen door on a submarine!" Check out my Internet Radio Station & DJ Service, »www.thebomb102.com. | |
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| Re: OMG!!! said by dslwanter :said by Titus Pullo :I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see " the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended. EDIT: two apologies for the price of one! -- ...immature atheist mayhem like the Prayer Request Thread in the New Features Request forum did a few weeks ago. I resent that generalization towards atheists -- Fossils, Not Gospels. | |
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2 edits | said by hopeflicker :said by dslwanter :said by Titus Pullo :I apologize for not reading carefully enough to see " the religion a bad rap" -- I meant nothing towards any particular religion; my point was intended as personal opinion/commentary on religion in general. I believe I'm allowed the right to express a general opinion without reproach. Isn't accepting diverse opinion that may contradict ones own -- even if the topic is a belief system -- called tolerance? For the record, I don't think any religion is a "bad thing"; it's people's twisting of it that usually leads to general mayhem. But again, I apologize if you're offended. EDIT: two apologies for the price of one! -- ...immature atheist mayhem like the Prayer Request Thread in the New Features Request forum did a few weeks ago. I resent that generalization towards atheists Yeah, and nothing like the religious organizations being "cults" you referred to as below in another thread regarding boy scouts though is it? My comment wasn't directed at atheists, it was directed at immature ones who bash faith publicly. I don't judge by creed I judge by personality. And what you just said in regards to my last post and what you said below about religious organizations now puts you on my immature list. -- "You're as worthless as a screen door on a submarine!" Check out my Internet Radio Station & DJ Service, »www.thebomb102.com. | |
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1 edit | Re: OMG!!! said by dslwanter :Yeah, and nothing like the religious organizations being "cults" you referred to as below in another thread regarding boy scouts though is it? Hey, i like making generalizations too 
Regarding the Cult thing, someone on this board has a great sig "if it offends then it must be true". -- Fossils, Not Gospels. | |
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| Re: OMG!!! I used to be a member of that church and know for a fact there is a lot of information out there that's bogus. So what I really want to know is what bad things have you confirmed. I can Google Area 51 and home built time machines and get tons of data... hardly any of it trustworthy. | |
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| Re: OMG!!! Sounds like you haven't run into any Assembly of God folks in your neck of the woods. Around here they are loud and proud and don't mind being rude to get their point across (at least in one part of town). Truth be told what you're describing is not a Mormon-wide policy. The missionaries are supposed to spread the word and drum up new church members, that's for sure. However in my area there is no harassment of that sort from them. Maybe the bishop in their ward is a bit overzealous about his theater count.
Like any church you have some people who push their religion too far, use it as a crutch to avoid their own issues, use it to further their own greedy ambitions, use it to feed their fears and intolerance of those different from them, use it to look down on 'non-believers', and all sorts of other non-spiritual ends. Remember church was made for man and not the other way around. That means man's limitations will be reflected in his churches. | |
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| Re: OMG!!! said by SRFireside :Sounds like you haven't run into any Assembly of God folks in your neck of the woods. My neck of the woods is teaming with them. The worst I can expect from them is they will set up a PA in a little park downtown (always the same two or three women) and torture everyone in the area with the most god-aweful "singing" you've ever heard. Other than that I never had one follow me down the street ignoring my pleas to leave me the #311 alone. 
"Theater"?? Sorry but my personal sphere no matter how small while in public is not yours or anyone else's "theater" to be exploited, regardless of the religion, mission from god or cause involved. If your religion is legit, if it is the real deal then quit talking about it and start living it. People will begin to beat down your door to find out what you've got that they don't have. -- Where's Jesus? Dear Jesus! | |
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| Re: OMG!!! said by hpguru :"Theater"?? Sorry but my personal sphere no matter how small while in public is not yours or anyone else's "theater" to be exploited, regardless of the religion, mission from god or cause involved. I think you misinterpreted 'theater count'. It was meant for the number of people that have joined the congregation. You know... like how movie makers look at how many people bought tickets (theater count) and don't care how they got the viewers to buy the tickets. As in it sounds like the Bishop wants more members and compels the local missionaries to "be earnest (pushy) and bold (rude) in their Godly mission."
said by hpguru :If your religion is legit, if it is the real deal then quit talking about it and start living it. People will begin to beat down your door to find out what you've got that they don't have. Not sure if you're talking to me directly or just commenting on pushy evangelical practices in general. The Mormon church is not my religion. It used to be a long time ago. I'm a Christian, but I'm no evangelist. I live my spirituality for myself and my family and prefer not to be in the evangelical sales and marketing game. | |
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| Re: OMG!!! said by CPM :Can't these parents read the manual. Wii does have parental controls. Do you read the manual for your gaming console? What's the big deal? All the website is doind is informing people about the parental controls. | |
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| said by hopeflicker :Will someone please think of the children. No wonder religious folk get a bad rap NEWS FLASH!!! The idiot religious nut who spent money on buying the Wii doesn't HAVE to buy it. I am sure any church would agree, you should be reading the bible instead of browsing the web. -- SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1. | |
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| Re: OMG!!! said by phattieg :said by hopeflicker :Will someone please think of the children. No wonder religious folk get a bad rap NEWS FLASH!!! The idiot religious nut who spent money on buying the Wii doesn't HAVE to buy it. I am sure any church would agree, you should be reading the bible instead of browsing the web. [sarcasm]Yup, according to the Church, you should divest yourself of all property, no TV, radio, video games, movies, cars, houses and money. You should be giving that money to the Church instead of spending it on "entertainment" and other comforts, such as a house or car. [/sarcsm] -- High speed is dangerous. Too many MP3s, not enough time. | |
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| Fear I think we're just devolving into a society of fear-mongerers. Instilling fear is about the only thing that keeps some people like these going.
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| I don't see the problem. The Wii can be used to get porn. Children groups want to educate parents about this possibility. This is a good thing as parents do need to be aware of this possibility. If they wanted to pass a law, try to start a boycott, or blame the Wii then that's a problem. But, if they just want to educate parents so that parents can do whatever it is they decide to do in response, then that's good. | |
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I really don't see what the big deal is with this group's page (other than the big C word). It seems very reasonable. They're not saying don't buy the Wii or your child will go to hell, they are saying 'hey, this thing can surf the net and here are some ways to protect your child if you wish to do so'. -- Hail To The Redskins | |
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| More Religious BS Why cant these groups be lead by Jim Jones? Religious fanatics need to be treated as a mentally ill. I'd like to know how this pack of assholes determined that the Wii is a "porn gateway". Do they even have one? I think probably not. I showed some friends the browser on the Wii over the weekend. They laughed at how difficult it is to use and hard to read. Maybe the Christian Coalition should focus more on teaching people how to be good parents instead of worrying about a phantom porn problem that doesnt exist. | |
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| Re: Wii-mote games? said by P2PPirate2 :Ahh, this peoples is complaining now, wait until some perverted Japanese game developer comes up with adult theme SM games using the Wii-mote controls. (oh, come on guys, you know this will be the ultimate party games ever made.) Damn my wrist is sore from wii "bowling"  -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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| Unfairly Targeted? It's great that they want to inform parents, but I think it goes a bit too far when the start exclaiming the Wii to be a "porn gateway" and the bane of society. All next-generation consoles have network access capabilities and, fortunately, most have parental controls. Yet, I don't see parental groups parading around for the PS3 or the 360 shouting, "Porn Gateway!!" "Porn Gateway!!" Any device with network access today could be used as method of obtaining pornography. I think these groups should be better informed themselves, before they start to try and inform the public. It looks like the blind leading the dumb. | |
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| said by porkchops :It's great that they want to inform parents, but I think it goes a bit too far when the start exclaiming the Wii to be a "porn gateway" and the bane of society. All next-generation consoles have network access capabilities and, fortunately, most have parental controls. Yet, I don't see parental groups parading around for the PS3 or the 360 shouting, "Porn Gateway!!" "Porn Gateway!!" Any device with network access today could be used as method of obtaining pornography. I think these groups should be better informed themselves, before they start to try and inform the public. It looks like the blind leading the dumb. That's true, PS3 & Xbox360 have access, but the Wii is a NINTENDO product, generally marketed to family/younger gamers. I think that's why it gets more flak for it than the others. I think it's a bunch of hoo-hah anyway. What's next? "Your Wii can steer your children to free thinking websites that differ from ours!!!" | |
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1 edit | A Complete Fabrication A New Low for Reporting Well perhaps DSL report and Kotaku could do use a favor and name this Christian group. I have been both to the Christian Collation and Family Research Council websites and found absolutely nothing. The hysteria as for as I can see started by one blog entry referring to another blog which was picked by another. There plenty of nutcases inside and outside religion but a blog entry do not make a movement and a license to criticize an entire group of Christians.
I guess I am not being clear. This story is a complete fabrication created by cobbling together a few blog entries. If there is a Christian group behind this then name it! Perhaps by new the hysteria over Wii has spread to some more gullible Christian forums but I believe this rumor was not started by a Christian group but a single bloger and it got out of hand after than. | |
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1 edit | said by richardpor :Well perhaps DSL report and Kotaku could do use a favor and name this Christian group. I have been both to the Christian Collation and Family Research Council websites and found absolutely nothing. The hysteria as for as I can see started by one blog entry referring to another blog which was picked by another. There plenty of nutcases inside and outside religion but a blog entry do not make a movement and a license to criticize an entire group of Christians. I guess I am not being clear. This story is a complete fabrication created by cobbling together a few blog entries. If there is a Christian group behind this then name it! Perhaps by new the hysteria over Wii has spread to some more gullible Christian forums but I believe this rumor was not started by a Christian group but a single bloger and it got out of hand after than. No, if you follow the links, you will find that the blog is run by Ethur (»www.ethur.org ), which is a christian faith-based org in California. -- The Monkey | |
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| Christians try to destroy Nintendo on crusade against porn "This highly popular and very fun gaming console is one of the hottest items out there and is a blast to play. But because the device is a Wi-Fi (wireless internet) console able to access the internet, this means that you can surf the net pretty easily... Well the good news is that you can do something about this Wii little problem. Nintendo has installed some parental controls on the Wii device which will help block access to porn sites and limit where your child can go on the internet."
Oh wait, they're just warning parents they need to activate the parental controls.
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| Re: Christians try to destroy Nintendo on crusade against porn Which, had they setup the system, would have already known about. Its part of the setup. If they were not part of that, then read the book. Either way, it takes less than 1 minute to know that the Wii has parental controls. There is no Wii little problem if parents actually take the time to act like one. | |
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If you read the blog you would clearly see that they are in no way, shape, or form trying to bash the Wii or blame it for your child seeing porn. They are simply letting the readers know that it can be used to access the Internet, and/or porn. Then they tell the readers how the can enable the parental controls.
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