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| Re: Well someone's doing right... It would be hard not to love any stock with around 40% profit margins. Although things are getting interesting now as Comcast nears the FCC maximum served rule.
I don't have Comcast's VoIP service personally, but it certainly is proving to be a nice addition to their product line. I'd have to think they are getting at least if not more than 40% profit per VoIP subscriber dollar as well. | |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Re: blah said by OldschoolDSL  :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Many of these prices are only good for 1yr. After that year, lets see how things play out. Vongage: 24.95 (30.00 after tax and such) Verizon DSL (20.00 aftet tax & such) Verizon Phone (because naked is not here yet) - 20.00 Local TV - FREE Total: 70.00 Comcast phone + internet + tv = 99.00 (130.00+ after your year) Sorry, I'll keep my 30.00 Good luck with that.
Hope you don't have any problems with them, cause they are worthless. All they do is blame your ISP. At least with Comcast if there is a problem, a tech can come out. | |
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join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL | Re: blah When Vonage goes Bankrupt due to total INCOMPETENT management, you'll spring for a real phone. | |
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Indian Orchard, MA
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| said by LeftOfSanity :said by OldschoolDSL :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Many of these prices are only good for 1yr. After that year, lets see how things play out. Vongage: 24.95 (30.00 after tax and such) Verizon DSL (20.00 aftet tax & such) Verizon Phone (because naked is not here yet) - 20.00 Local TV - FREE Total: 70.00 Comcast phone + internet + tv = 99.00 (130.00+ after your year) Sorry, I'll keep my 30.00 Good luck with that. Hope you don't have any problems with them, cause they are worthless. All they do is blame your ISP. At least with Comcast if there is a problem, a tech can come out. Every time I've ever tried Comcast, I would lose connection and there would ALWAYS be nose on the line. Yes a repair man would come and come and come and come again.
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| said by LeftOfSanity :said by OldschoolDSL :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Many of these prices are only good for 1yr. After that year, lets see how things play out. Vongage: 24.95 (30.00 after tax and such) Verizon DSL (20.00 aftet tax & such) Verizon Phone (because naked is not here yet) - 20.00 Local TV - FREE Total: 70.00 Comcast phone + internet + tv = 99.00 (130.00+ after your year) Sorry, I'll keep my 30.00 Good luck with that. Hope you don't have any problems with them, cause they are worthless. All they do is blame your ISP. At least with Comcast if there is a problem, a tech can come out. This is true, I had a bad install of VOIP (weak signal or something) anyways they sent out a tech the next morning, and everything works perfectly now. | |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE | Verizon phone is only $20? What kind od plan is that? I had basic service with VZ before and it was like 40-50 bucks. | |
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join:2006-01-07
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| said by LeftOfSanity :Verizon phone is only $20? What kind od plan is that? I had basic service with VZ before and it was like 40-50 bucks. Maybe he's still on a party line from the 1950's.. | |
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| said by LeftOfSanity :Verizon phone is only $20? What kind od plan is that? I had basic service with VZ before and it was like 40-50 bucks. Basic metered service is $10, plus interstate sub line charge of $6, a few more buck in taxes and fees and you're at $20 for bare bones POTS service.
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join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | If you want to compare apples to apples, how much does your Verizon TV cost compared to Comcast TV? | |
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1 edit | Re: blah said by openbox9 :If you want to compare apples to apples, how much does your Verizon TV cost compared to Comcast TV? In my service area FiOS TV is about $10 cheaper than Comcast for comparable programming. Comcast was also higher on most equipment rentals. After Comcast sold our local cable system to Time Warner, prices dropped so that FiOS TV and TWC are about the same price.
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| | sharksfan3
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join:2004-02-16
Poughkeepsie, NY | I'll keep my Vonage line as well. $34/mo after taxes gives me 2 lines.
Cablevision calls me at least once a week trying to sell me on their service. Once I ask if they can match what I have, the phone call quickly ends. | |
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join:2003-01-24
Northfield, CT
| Re: blah Technically, my Optimum Voice line is only 15$ a month. Thats only because i have all of Cablevisions services so i get my 20$ discount. But I would have those services anyway whether they offered the phone or not so it was a no brainer. In my case Vonage could not match Cablevisions price for phone service. | |
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Poughkeepsie, NY | Re: blah Right... $15 for one line. They would then charge me full price for a second line.  | |
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join:2003-01-24
Northfield, CT | Re: blah Yes, there is that. But i only need one line. Thats why if i did have to get a second line, i would get a vonage line, unless there was some sort of price reduction for a second OV line. | |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
| said by OldschoolDSL :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Many of these prices are only good for 1yr. After that year, lets see how things play out. Vongage: 24.95 (30.00 after tax and such) Verizon DSL (20.00 aftet tax & such) Verizon Phone (because naked is not here yet) - 20.00 Local TV - FREE Total: 70.00 Comcast phone + internet + tv = 99.00 (130.00+ after your year) Sorry, I'll keep my 30.00 Wow. I don't think it was your intention, but yours is a classic example of how shedding alot doesn't really save you much. Actually, you're getting completely hosed on DSL. As an example, I'm using FIOS 15/2 and VoIP. If I dumped my cable and relied on rabbit ears for TV, it would only cost me $56/month or about $14 less than you spend on DSL and VoIP. | |
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OldschoolDSL
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Indian Orchard, MA
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| Re: blah said by kyler13 :said by OldschoolDSL :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Many of these prices are only good for 1yr. After that year, lets see how things play out. Vongage: 24.95 (30.00 after tax and such) Verizon DSL (20.00 aftet tax & such) Verizon Phone (because naked is not here yet) - 20.00 Local TV - FREE Total: 70.00 Comcast phone + internet + tv = 99.00 (130.00+ after your year) Sorry, I'll keep my 30.00 Wow. I don't think it was your intention, but yours is a classic example of how shedding alot doesn't really save you much. Actually, you're getting completely hosed on DSL. As an example, I'm using FIOS 15/2 and VoIP. If I dumped my cable and relied on rabbit ears for TV, it would only cost me $56/month or about $14 less than you spend on DSL and VoIP. I'm using "rabit ears" now (don't pick up anything). Truth is we (my family) doesn't watch TV really. Even when I did pay for cable, I only watched SciFi Friday. The other 6 days a week, 26 days a month it was useless.
FOIS is something I'm waiting for. But I'm unsure how well I'll do in savings. 56/month sounds good to me. 
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Ebolla
join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA
| vonage great except you need broadband.
dsl, slower speeds then cable on average
verizon phone, kinda redundant since you have vonage(i know is not your fault you need to keep).
local, may be free but it is 50-60 channels LESS then the $99.00 bundle. not exactly apples to apples.
You forget to pay your verizon bill and vonage is lost, and vonage doesnt reimburse you due to your isp being out afaik. same if something happens on your verizon line. Cable co. on other hand will reimburse you for downtime.. with exception of non-pay, but that stands to reason. | |
| | fiberguy
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| said by OldschoolDSL :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Yea... that's it.
Can you pull your head out of your wallet for a moment and stop to think that for just ONE moment that not everyone is looking for cheap price??
Not everyone shops by price alone.. not every one hates cable and not everyone hates comcast. It may be a theme around these parts - that is true, but this site does NOT represent the feelings of the overall picture of what's really going on in the world.
Many of the members on this site just don't get it.. however, this site (though it used to be a good resource) is nothing more than a rant and bitch board and has lost is major purpose.. (at least in the news and company forums)...
Save your money and enjoy mediocrity.
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| Re: blah said by fiberguy :said by OldschoolDSL :The only reason Comcast has hit this mark, is people believe they are being given a discount price or are told it cost more to only have 1 service (not always true). Yea... that's it. Can you pull your head out of your wallet for a moment and stop to think that for just ONE moment that not everyone is looking for cheap price?? Not everyone shops by price alone.. not every one hates cable and not everyone hates comcast. It may be a theme around these parts - that is true, but this site does NOT represent the feelings of the overall picture of what's really going on in the world. Many of the members on this site just don't get it.. however, this site (though it used to be a good resource) is nothing more than a rant and bitch board and has lost is major purpose.. (at least in the news and company forums)... Save your money and enjoy mediocrity. I'd pay more if the service was right. It's not.
Comcast has failed here more times then anyone can recall. Their service cut out on me over 10x after an install. Charge me 250.00 to fix something outside my house. Refused to remove the charge. Continued to cut out on me. Vonage would drop like a stone on Comcast (its VERY good on my DSL). Got double billed and triple billed for things.
IF Comcast works for you, then so be it. But it never as for me.
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Quakertown, PA | Re: blah comcast triple play here. been a sub at least ten years. 129 a month for every channel they have, internet 6/750, and phone. i believe i get more bang for my buck then you do. its also good for 2 years not one. rock solid also | |
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USA | The only company who gave me worse service than Comcast was Vonage. | |
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join:2005-05-13
Marietta, GA | I will keep my $30.00 Also I have been running Vontage for over a year on my DSL with no problems. | |
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gar187er
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Dover, DE | fine well, we like our speed...so well keep our comcast! | |
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LeftOfSanity
join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE
| Re: comcast speed said by Rickez :yea, I want the comcast speed and the fact that it works. I have the phone service too, it works pretty good but has annoying things. For instance, to delete a message, you have to first listen to the whole thing some people just go on and on about nothing. Verizon in my town charges $25 just for dial tone, no calls. I called them just about a week ago and told them I had about a $40 budget for phone with long distance, they pretty much laughed. Actually you can delete the message while it is playing. Just press 7 twice.
77 - so ou dont have to listen to the whole message. | |
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Three Rivers, MA
1 edit | ok thats cool, how come comcast did not know that when I called, lol. Nice, I just cleaned out 10 messages in under a minute. Thanks!
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Ogden, UT | You don't have to wait to delete a message..just hit "7" twice in a row.. | |
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Vancouver, WA
| said by Rickez :yea, I want the comcast speed and the fact that it works. I have the phone service too, it works pretty good but has annoying things. For instance, to delete a message, you have to first listen to the whole thing some people just go on and on about nothing. Verizon in my town charges $25 just for dial tone, no calls. I called them just about a week ago and told them I had about a $40 budget for phone with long distance, they pretty much laughed. I never tried it yet but with my old service and my cell hitting the delete button twice during the message skips playing it and deletes it. | |
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GlennAllen
join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
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| Compare.... percentage of calls (in and out) that get the "all circuits busy, please try later" message** -
Comcast DV: 20, Verizon POTS: 0
similar TV packages -
Comcast Digital Classic/Plus: $65-70, Verizon FiOS TV (the only TV Vz offers, barring the DirecTV co-branding package with DSL): $43
Why has CDV grown in customer base so "fast"? Because customers want phone service from the same company that provides the wire into their home. It sure ain't because it's a "great deal". CDV is just OK--worth the $40+ to some, not worth it to others.
Don't use the phone much? Get Skype or somethin'.
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
| Re: Compare.... Now try comparing apples to apples.
Comcast Digital Plus gives you a base movie package (Encore) and a digital box. FIOS TV is still cheaper, but once you equate the services by adding on the FIOS a la carte items, it's alot closer than the $27 spread you suggest. The problem with FIOS is that with pay channels and multiple TVs, it costs more than Comcast. Comcast is the better deal if you have >3 TVs in the house, IMO. Things will change, though, when analog goes away. | |
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join:2002-11-17
Richmond, VA
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| Re: Compare.... If, if,... if, which is why "general" comparisons are never "perfect", hence YMMV is always the case. Myself? One TV. Comcast doesn't compare favorably with anyone on price and performance regarding any of their services [for me], which doesn't mean much if Comcast is the only provider in one's service area. I'm lucky; I've got a plethora of providers in my area. Yep, throw in the "a la carte items" (Encore and Showtime and Starz and an HD DVR from Vz), and the price differential is smaller, but still enough to give Vz the edge by an easy margin... for me.
So, yeah, I don't disagree with anything you've said (except a larger apple vs a smaller apple is still "apples to apples", worms and all). | |
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| said by kyler13 :Now try comparing apples to apples. Comcast Digital Plus gives you a base movie package (Encore) and a digital box. FIOS TV is still cheaper, but once you equate the services by adding on the FIOS a la carte items, it's alot closer than the $27 spread you suggest. The problem with FIOS is that with pay channels and multiple TVs, it costs more than Comcast. Comcast is the better deal if you have >3 TVs in the house, IMO. Things will change, though, when analog goes away. Im not sure but I think Digital Classic (I had it before I upgraded) had encore movie channels, then I upgraded the step above to get one of the top movie channel packages (Showtime, HBO, MAX, etc) | |
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GlennAllen
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Richmond, VA
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| Re: Compare.... It's Digital Plus that has the Encore channels. The Verizon movie package ($13) has Encore, Starz, and Showtime (which includes TMC, and Flix), plus Sundance--45 channels altogether (and, yes, some are just east coast/west coast versions of each other separated by 3 hrs, but I've actually found that to be useful sometimes). Digital Classic does have Flix.
Basically, they (both Comcast and Verizon, or anyone) don't really try to make it terribly easy to do a channel for channel comparison. Anyway, to each his/her own. Expect packages and prices to change as it suits either company. | |
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clubs: | Weird. We've had Comcast DV for about a year now and never got that message. Maybe it's a local infrastructure problem.
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