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A strange week of rumors and blacklisting...
(old news - 01:51PM Friday Mar 02 2007)
tags: business · gaming · networking
Yesterday afternoon, gaming blog Kotaku published a rumor that Sony would be unveiling "Playstation Home" at the Game Developer's Conference next week. The system is supposed to tie together the best aspects of Microsoft's XBox Live and Nintendo's services, creating a broadband-connected social system that better connects online gamers via user-created avatars across titles. Sony was none too pleased with the blog reporting the rumor -- one Sony exec saying the website was blacklisted from future press events.

Kotaku owner Brian Crecente responded: "I think this only highlights the differences that PR people and journalists have. My interest is not in making sure that Sony has positive news or that the timing of their news is correct, my job only is to inform the readers of news as quickly and accurately as I can." Sony ultimately apologized, but the whole event is a prime example of "The Streisand Effect," a term coined by the folks over at Techdirt.

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mesmerMAN

join:2006-01-18
Miami, FL

Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

1st amendment? WHO CARES!

either post the stuff we want, or you get no cookies from us!

vpoko
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Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

said by mesmerMAN See Profile :

1st amendment? WHO CARES!

either post the stuff we want, or you get no cookies from us!
Freedom of speech doesn't mean they have to continue giving him material.

Actually, freedom of speech doesn't mean anything here. The constitution restricts what the government can do, not what Sony or any other private company can do.
MrCorleone

join:2007-03-02
UK

is there ever gonna be games were no matter what console you are on you can play as long as you playing same game. and btw resistance fall of man is coming to the 360. basterds i will be on ps3 online on march 23rd add me: tonza_16_2006@hotmail.co.uk
bogey780

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Here

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

'and btw resistance fall of man is coming to the 360.'

No it's not.
MrCorleone

join:2007-03-02
UK

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

yes it is i dont want it on 360 its meant to be a exclusive ps3 game but i went into game today and the manager said tht it will be coming to the 360 before this year ends. tonza_16_2006@hotmail.co.uk
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

The manager is wrong.

Store manager's get 90% of their info from the same place non-managers do- the internet.
MrCorleone

join:2007-03-02
UK

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

add me on msn tonza_16_2006@hotmail.co.uk p.s r u gettin ps3?
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

Got one.
MrCorleone

join:2007-03-02
UK

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

kk add me to msn mate i will play u on motorstorm or resisitance on the 23rd of march when i get my ps3. tonza_16_2006@hotmail.co.uk
sd70mac666

join:2003-06-05
Saint Albans, VT

Re: Sony has the ability to bypass freedom of speech

When did 2 year olds learn how to type?
lol
MrCorleone

join:2007-03-02
UK
what games do you have for your ps3 ? im gettin resistance and motorstorm on launch then madden 07 and of course ill have the gran turismo hd game as its free to download.

inteller
Sociopaths always win.

join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

1st amendment only protects gov free speech

The 1st amendment only protects the government from infringing on your free speech. anyone else can do what they want.

I see Sony twisting in the wind here because the PS3 is bombing. The "best of the Xbox 360"? I thought they said they were better than the 360?

Expect this thing to come out with a lower price tag than the PS3....sans a Blue-Ray drive.

ninjatutle
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Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

said by inteller See Profile :

Expect this thing to come out with a lower price tag than the PS3....sans a Blue-Ray drive.
Isnt this thing just an app and not hardware?
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

It's an extension of the existing PS3s ability.
Cod

join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC

said by inteller See Profile :

I see Sony twisting in the wind here because the PS3 is bombing.
How can it be bombing when it sold more units than Microsoft in January? I am no fanboy of any 3 consoles, but saying the PS3 is bombing is ridiculous.
Cheddah

join:2001-12-31
San Rafael, CA

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

Actually, Sony sold fewer consoles than Microsoft in January:

A Credit Suisse analyst has Nintendo’s Wii leading January console sales with 436,000 units, according to a report from Bloomberg news. The report cites January NPD data, and has the Xbox 360 selling 294,000 units with the Playstation 3 trailing with 244,000 consoles sold. Above 200,000 units for January is a decent showing, but it will be hard for Sony to spin its numbers in the face of increasing availability on store shelves. Nintendo, of course, will be happy with their January sales; every indication into the third week of February has the Wii still facing shortages on shelves, so one might expect this trend to continue. While many had dismissed the Wii’s new control scheme as a fad, the console’s continuing popularity gets harder and harder to deny as the months continue.

»www.playfeed.com/playfeed/articl···2202230/
Cod

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Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

said by Cheddah See Profile :

Actually, Sony sold fewer consoles than Microsoft in January:

A Credit Suisse analyst has Nintendo’s Wii leading January console sales with 436,000 units, according to a report from Bloomberg news. The report cites January NPD data, and has the Xbox 360 selling 294,000 units with the Playstation 3 trailing with 244,000 consoles sold. Above 200,000 units for January is a decent showing, but it will be hard for Sony to spin its numbers in the face of increasing availability on store shelves. Nintendo, of course, will be happy with their January sales; every indication into the third week of February has the Wii still facing shortages on shelves, so one might expect this trend to continue. While many had dismissed the Wii’s new control scheme as a fad, the console’s continuing popularity gets harder and harder to deny as the months continue.

»www.playfeed.com/playfeed/articl···2202230/
I stand corrected...I guess they are bombing, they sold 50,000 less then MS in Jan without being able to keep the retailers in stock

cbrigante2
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Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

Correction. The report states specifically that Sony cannot blame lack of availability on store shelves as a reason for the lowest number out of the big three. Almost every store I go to has plenty of PS3s to sell.

FiL
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Silver Spring, MD

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

man where the hell do yall live? Can't find one around my hood in any retail store. Guess its a "big city" console. lol.

Seriously, bombing?

Since when did the console companies start banking on the sale of the console? Of course Sony will push out its units, and of course it'll take over AGAIN, for the 3rd time, and of course it'll make billions off the games...

Business as usual...
Mordhem
Love it, Hate it.

join:2003-07-10
Baltimore, MD
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Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

Well considering the 360 has been out a little wile and it still toping the ps3 I would say that its not happening this time...

BTW I got plenty of Playstations if anyone is having a problem geting one haha because right now its hard to get they them sold..

cbrigante2
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I've seen a stack of at least 100 of them at my local Best Buy.
bogey780

join:2004-03-19
Here

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

Uhhh...the biggest order I've heard on the ign and ps3 news sites have been 60-80 for the huge retail stores. No way could you have seen 100 in a store unless it was a lot of empty boxes.

The PS3 hasn't been flying off the shelves but I don't believe in the least the stories about 60 units sitting unsold for weeks.

cbrigante2
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Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

said by bogey780 See Profile :

Uhhh...the biggest order I've heard on the ign and ps3 news sites have been 60-80 for the huge retail stores. No way could you have seen 100 in a store unless it was a lot of empty boxes.

The PS3 hasn't been flying off the shelves but I don't believe in the least the stories about 60 units sitting unsold for weeks.
I'm not saying they are ALL still there for sale, but they had them stacked in a large circle about 6 feet wide. It was over 6 feet tall. When I go in these days, they usually have 5-10 units on the shelf. Every Gamestop, Target, Wal Mart, Circuit City, Toys 'R Us, and Best Buy that I have been at in the past month and a half has had PS3s sitting out ready to buy.

This report was having Sony blame sales shortfall on customers not being able to find units in stores. That was claimed to be untrue from the report, and my experience (and others) backs that claim.

benecewicz
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Parkville, MD
I've seen PS3's in every Target and Walmart I've walked into in the past month. And most of the time at Best Buys... being in the White Marsh/Towson area...
vannyx
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join:2003-07-07
Bronx, NY
bough a wii,only enjoy it with friends, bought all the launch games got bored pretty quick, but its a wonderful system for playing with friends. Saving up for a PS3

SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

said by inteller See Profile :

I see Sony twisting in the wind here because the PS3 is bombing.
Last sales figures I saw had the PS3 at about 230,000 units sold in January and the Xbox 360 at 290,000 units sold. Yeah the 360 is selling more, but a difference of 60k units when over 1/4 million are sold in a single month is nowhere near bombing.

said by inteller See Profile :

The "best of the Xbox 360"? I thought they said they were better than the 360?
The best of the online services. It's pretty evident the PS3's online community features are lacking. This month's firmware upgrade is supposed to level that playing field.

said by inteller See Profile :

Expect this thing to come out with a lower price tag than the PS3....sans a Blue-Ray drive.
I can guarantee you that you will never see a Playstation 3 without blu-ray. The games are written on blu-ray. Sony is depending on the adoption of blu-ray. Sure the system will have a lower price tag, but it would be because they are planning on taking out the Emotion Engine and rely on software upscaling for playing PS2 games (which should also help increase the video definition too) and lower component costs.

nixen
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Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

said by SRFireside See Profile :

said by inteller See Profile :

I see Sony twisting in the wind here because the PS3 is bombing.
Last sales figures I saw had the PS3 at about 230,000 units sold in January and the Xbox 360 at 290,000 units sold. Yeah the 360 is selling more, but a difference of 60k units when over 1/4 million are sold in a single month is nowhere near bombing.
I dunno: what do you call it when a console that's a year old is outselling a brand new one?

-tom
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SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

A less expensive console with a better lineup of games that is outselling a newer, more expensive console. That doesn't mean the PS3 is a bust. Just not selling as much.

FiL
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Silver Spring, MD

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

I call it a full years running start?

Only time will tell.....sike, the PS3's gonna be the monster everyone knows it is in a year or so...
vinnie97

join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX

Re: 1st amendment only protects gov free speech

Please stop with the wishcasting.

Sony's become too arrogant. No one can stay on top forever. Accept the sea change and move on.
jazzmess

join:2007-03-02
Irving, TX

Sony, don't you love yourself anymore?

I think perhaps the best comment in response to the story came from Penny Arcade:

...it offers a glimpse of just how difficult it is to track this company's strange trajectory. Like some idiot alchemist they are able to transform good news into bad news, or turn gleaming triumph into wretched defeat.

cableties
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I visit kotaku

often and like the info and humor of it. Most is for ___fanboys. But I doubt it should be considered "journalism". It's content borders on rehashed blog info, PR, and some original off-shore digging (Japan Akihabara...).

But once again, we get someone who is being punished and spins it like they are victim.

How much money does Kotaku make?
What are the visiting stats?
Why should we care?
Since a site like this generates revenue based on traffic and speculation (and amazing how gizmodo has similar, if not redundant posts), do the posters and readers get rewarded?

Sony has better things screwups to do without the help of some, "Hey, I got that info to the fanboys first!!Whambulane!!" website.

Yeah, leech off the host then cry when it picks you off.

Farley3
Holyshnikes

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Any press is good

Sony should be happy that the PS3 is getting any press, I went to target last week and they had the PS3's stacked up on top of each other to support their carboard Wii Display..
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brooklynman4

join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY

Re: Any press is good

If u cant beat them join them.

odreian615

join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL

Sony is just so arrogant

The only company hurting Sonys PS3 sales is Sony itself
they have the most powerful game system
they sold over 100m units of their last gen PS2
Cheap blu-ray player
WTF you have all this and you cant out sell the Wii

Mchart
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Re: Sony is just so arrogant

said by odreian615 See Profile :

The only company hurting Sonys PS3 sales is Sony itself
they have the most powerful game system
they sold over 100m units of their last gen PS2
Cheap blu-ray player
WTF you have all this and you cant out sell the Wii
A gaming system can't be successful when it lacks fun games.

FiL
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Re: Sony is just so arrogant

lol. fun games. I doubt Wii Bowling's gonna be a funner experience then GTA 4. But to each his own "fun"...?

Mchart
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Re: Sony is just so arrogant

Graphics != Gameplay

fcisler
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Riverhead, NY

PS3 Potential

I'm USUALLY not the first in line to buy ANYTHING "rev0". I'll wait for the other suckers people to buy them first....figure out the bugs....sort them out....you know...all the good stuff.

The PS3, though, i bought. It's potential is there....it's just very limited now. I have linux installed, and (after 8 hours) VLC. I don't need to drag my laptop over to the TV when i want to watch a XViD movie.

Conversely, when i want to watch a MPEG - PS3 natively will support it.

Also...i have my choice of browsers. When the woman wants to browse the 'net, she can use PS3. She can use the remote or the keyboard/mouse. When i want to actually do some work, i can load up linux on it, load up rdesktop, and work on my desktop PC in the bedroom.

For me....it was the difference between spending $700 on a PC, or on PS3. I chose PS3. I have enough PC's, and it's just so damn cool.

The price is a bit expensive....but for $700 you're also getting a blu-ray player, full game console, DVD player, and a computer.

Sony wants to add an improvement? Great! I'm not complaining. I'm also not holding my breath.

Sony REALLY needs to work on other issues first:
-SUCKY selection of demos/downloads. I have a PS3 - not a PSP. I also paid ALOT of money for it. I could care less about downloading anything for the PSP on it. There's at least 20 games i can download/buy for the PSP. How about a DECENT one (grip shift sucks, btw) i can BUY online? I don't care if it's 12GB.
-Their downloads are TERRIBLY slow. I mean really....i have 30mb down, and can easily sustain a 1MB/s transfer (at LEAST) on my PC while PS3 hums along, slow as ever.
-BACKGROUND DOWNLOADING! If you gonna have a crappy pipe to serve me the content, at least let me forget it's doing it. Nope.
-Video Player. Plays MPEG. Does NOT know what to do with any other file type (besides MP3 and a couple others). It will let me download them to a SD/MMC/CF card, but then it's useless to me.
-Going back to the first - other countries have good games. I can buy tekken 5 if i'm in japan or asia...why not here?

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Jehu
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MA

Yay

Console flame war WOOT!

Xbox is for little girls!

yeah.
ender7074

join:2006-11-21
Saint Louis, MO

Porn Gateway!

The PS3 is a PORN GATEWAY! OMG think of the children!!!! sorry couldnt resist....

FiL
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Silver Spring, MD

Re: Porn Gateway!

its not a child's console...its a MAN's console!
sd70mac666

join:2003-06-05
Saint Albans, VT
Hey like they put in LCS, The Internet is a Gateway to hell.
I think Sony should be able to sell one without a blu-ray drive for those who don't want one for the same price as a PS2, which I still have.
liquidice

join:2002-08-25
Naperville, IL

Sony should have waited......

Personally, I think Sony just put the PS3 out too quickly. If they would have had some of the popular franchises available that would have helped sales. I didn't buy a PS2 until they released the latest Resident Evil. I probably won't buy a PS3 until MGS 4 is released.
sd70mac666

join:2003-06-05
Saint Albans, VT

Re: Sony should have waited......

I'll be bluntly honest with the list. I didn't really see the hubbub with the PS2 until Grand Theft Auto III came out. That's the only reason why I bought one.
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