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Jacksonville, FL | Let it begin Let the posting circus begin..... | |
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Shamayim
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join:2002-09-23 | Re: Let it begin Whistleblowers are heroes. | |
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Alexandria, VA | Re: Let it begin And get a lot of people upset over things that have been going on for a very long time. | |
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Henderson, NV | Bullshit, this is a TRUE patriot. | |
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Cleveland, OH | Re: Let it begin Ehhh I wouldn't count it as sarcasm. | |
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karlmarx
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iraq | Actually, he's dead serious. Remember, if you're not WITH him, you're a terrorist, or a terrorist supporter. | |
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TKJunkMail
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| Re: Let it begin said by karlmarx  :Actually, he's dead serious. Remember, if you're not WITH him, you're a terrorist, or a terrorist supporter. You're at the top of the list.
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karlmarx
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| Re: Let it begin ooooh! I'm on your 'list'! WOW.. I'm guessing your list shares a LOT in common with your whackjob idol, Joe McCarthy. In fact, if we took a poll, I'm sure about 95% of the people on BBR would LOVE to be on 'your list'. That's actually a badge of honor, to be on the 'retire_rich' list. I mean, it means we're free thinkers, not corporate drones. It means we belive in the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of JUSTICE. It means we believe that the government under Dumbass Dubyah has become a fascist state. All those things are qualifications for your 'list'. Put me at the TOP of the list, in BIG BOLD TYPE, so everyone knows that I stand for everything that you are NOT!
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mcmillan
join:2001-04-15
West Bloomfield, MI | As usual we "thank"  TCH for his enlightening insight. "THANK YOU..."
As the other poster stated patriot is not a person clapping every time the GOV says something.
Clap on dude. | |
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guitarzan
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| Re: Let it begin said by mcmillan :As usual we "thank" TCH for his enlightening insight. "THANK YOU..." As the other poster stated patriot is not a person clapping every time the GOV says something. Clap on dude. Wait until a Democrat or the Democrat in Republican clothing (Rudi Gulianni) gets elected President. There will be a real shocker in store for most.
Being a patriot now = phone taps, 1st class mail being rooted through, near mandatory ISP data collection and retention of ALL citizens web surfing. Remember your a good guy or gal on the A-team...for now.
Recall, back to the near distant future of 1994, when Bill Clinton was President and how he and the Democrats defined a patriot. A patriot equaled any law abiding citizen who owns a gun. Current Democratic definition = gun owner = patriot= bad homegrown terrorist.
An exciting era lies just ahead. Take the current crop of Democrats who are rabidly anti-gun. They WILL ban guns first chance they get and ban ones 2nd Amendment Constitutional Right to keep and bear arms. Is anyone gullible enough to believe, that our other God givin' Rights won't follow suit, in quick order?
Be prepared, hope for the best, brace yourself for the worst.
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kapil
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| said by TKJunkMail :Not this one. All he did was help the terrorists. ...and the rest of us would never do that. Never.
We drive to the starbucks 2 blocks away in a military style "off road" vehicle on pavement - a vehicle that was made by a company whose management is breaking promises to its generations of workers, gives 5 miles to a gallon of gasoline that lines the pockets of greedy corporations and might as well be the blood of the suppressed workers in places where we'd like to let freedom march.
So this oil worker is living off pennies a day, trying to feed his family when our bunker busting bomb just spread some freedom on his mud hut and killed off the entire family but a 7 year old boy.
That boy goes begging for help from the nearest GI Joe, who taunts him and makes him run behind his truck to catch a bottled of 99 cent water, oh and in the process he spits his tobacco chew on the doorstep of the mosque they happened to be passing by...can't blame him though, a shithole looks like the next and the one after it
The soldier is only an 18 year old college freshman who wanted free college money so he signed up to be the best he could be...he kills during the day and at night jerks off to pictures of his girlfriend back home whom he knocked up before leaving home and who, while he doesn't know this yet, will now have to raise a kid on her own because the boyfriend will be blown to pieces by an IED soon enough.
The boy is now pissed because his family is dead, he can't get an education, a job, or food and water. He is attracted to a group of people who instil in him some self respect, dignity and promise to help him fight the Amrikkans to avenge his loved ones and his country and his religion.
The boy goes on a suicide mission and blows up a humvee full of soldiers. Al Jazeera broadcasts that a 10 year old Muslim kid martyred himself in the service of God and his country....and Fox News tells Pat Robertson's followers that an islamic terrorist killed a truck full of American soldiers as a symbol of Jihad, his hatred of the West and Christianity.
The dead boy's neighbors and friends mourn him and celebrate his bravery...and volunteer their own lives to honor his memory and to serve their country just like he had opposing the occupiers!
The dead soldiers girlfriend cries herself to sleep trying to explain to herself, so she can repeat it to her newborn baby, why daddy won't be coming home. The soldier's parents hang yellow ribbons on their minivans as a sign of their support of the troops.
All while this has been going on, Exxon and Halliburton made billions of dollars. And our Government spent entirely too much money to kill more humans of all skin colors....money which could have gone towards teaching children, feeding the hungry, helping the ill, saving the environment, ..... | |
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Marietta, GA | Re: Let it begin (claps hands)
it's this cycle of violence and hatred for each other, that will ultimately doom mankind... | |
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join:2005-01-28 | I couldn't have said it better. | |
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join:2003-07-05
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| Very well said, and I agree with you 100% All this violence will end when we:
1. decide that we have had enough and stop it, or
2. we are all dead.
I personally believe it will be #2, as human nature wont allow us to walk away without having the last word, or kill in this example. | |
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1 edit | said by kapil :So this oil worker is living off pennies a day, trying to feed his family when a Shiite car bomb just spread some Sharia on his mud hut and killed off the entire family but a Sunni 7 year old boy. Spin off your 'Blame America First' tale now.
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North Jackson, OH | Wow,
Don't you have a peace rally to go to? A sit in perhaps. When is poetry night?
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Shamayim :Whistleblowers are heroes. Not this one. All he did was help the terrorists. Lame  | |
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| Re: Let it begin said by thender2 :said by TKJunkMail :said by Shamayim :Whistleblowers are heroes. Not this one. All he did was help the terrorists. How does it help the terrorists? It doesn't of course. | |
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thender2
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| Re: Let it begin said by TKJunkMail :said by thender2 : How does it help the terrorists? Makes it easier for them to cover their tracks. What about the privacy of the people who aren't terrorists who use AT&T?
If we took a poll, I'm pretty sure non-terrorists would outnumber terrorists.
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Palo Alto, CA | Re: Let it begin "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. What? Don't you like the slide to authoritarianism we're on? What are you? Some kind of damn commie?" | |
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thender2
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| Re: Let it begin said by JakCrow :"If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. What? Don't you like the slide to authoritarianism we're on? What are you? Some kind of damn commie?" I would like RetireRich's opinion on the matter. | |
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Palo Alto, CA | Re: Let it begin You're going to get lots of peoples opinions on the matter. | |
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thender2
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Staten Island, NY | Re: Let it begin I expect that, but his is of special interest. | |
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| From the article:
"Klein says what he knows won't help terrorists.
"The only people that are being kept in the dark is the American people who are being misled and not realizing, not being told that their private information, that their liberties are being destroyed and tramped on," he said."
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So let me get this right, if we as a people give up what we are fighting for, we will be better off? If we disregard our own laws, liberty, and Constitution, we are doing the right thing? If we willingly abandon all of this and more, this is the right thing to do? What is our media supposed to do without people like this guy? How are we to be informed of a possibly illegal operation by our very own gov't?
Well, that's great, sign me up to get an "instrument of obedience," Star Trek style, and I'll never speak of how the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky. /Sarcasm...
How on earth this helps a terrorist is beyond me.
If they're dumb enough to use public net/phone links with zero notion that they'd probably be monitored ...that's absurd.
I can't believe it's such a huge deal to be so hush hush about something everybody knows is true anyway.
Believe it or not, this line of thought is more prevalent with people (who can think in a logical fashion) than you think. | |
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Shamayim :Whistleblowers are heroes. Not this one. All he did was help the terrorists. He pointed out an obviously illegal search & seizure. If this program were Constitutionally sound it would have upheld through the controversy. It went away because it could not.
Besides, people don't like the idea that they're being watched. We aren't criminals.
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He pointed out an obviously illegal search & seizure. If this program were Constitutionally sound it would have upheld through the controversy.
If this program were illegal, someone would be charged with a crime. Nobody was charged with a crime.
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It went away because it could not.
It did not go away. It went somewhere else. It went somewhere else because it was no longer viable to collect the intelligence at that point. The location was compromised. It therefore became impossible to collect the desired information.
SIGINT is the most vulnerable form of intelligence because the target has control of the resource.
I don't expect you to understand that... but it is a fact never the less. | |
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If this program were illegal, someone would be charged with a crime.
That's really not accurate. Nobody's been charged with a crime because it's impossible to chew threw the layers of the national security onion to discern reality, not because a crime hasn't been committed. | |
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Shamayim :Whistleblowers are heroes. Not this one. All he did was help the terrorists. So it's okay for gov to violate people basic rights as long as they say its done for good of this country?
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| said by TKJunkMail :said by Shamayim :Whistleblowers are heroes. Not this one. All he did was help the terrorists. Not an excuse for violating the law. | |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| Re: Let it begin Indeed. The cheerleaders for the country's slide to authoritarianism want people to ignore the fact that the NSA domestic wiretapping that Bush has admitted to, is illegal without warrants. It doesn't matter how many ways these guys try to slice it, and slice it they do. | |
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Long Beach, CA | Why should the ISPs keep logs then? Why would NSA want the ISPs to keep logs if the NSA already already vacuumed up all that traffic? | |
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krayzie bone
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Marietta, GA | wow... I honestly thought that when he spilled the beans, it would be the LAST time we ever heard of him...I was so convinced he'd be silenced by the government. | |
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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
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4 edits | Its not new At&t has been doing this since thier first network (think 1950's or earlier) and the paranoids at the govt just have to know what you've been saying to your grandmother and other family members, because we all could be terrorists, or even worse, pinko commy socialists.
Paranoia creedo = always think worst case scenario.
It's sad that this supposedly civilized world is anything but ....
It might have been a good idea, if it werent being abused for political and financial gain. | |
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House Springs, MO | Re: Its not new Hmm, I guess the Movie "Enemy of the State" comes to mind! | |
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wilbilt
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| So I Guess... ...I stopped receiving those Citizen Corps emails because of all that pr0n I've been surfing?
Damn. What's next? A knock at the door because I bought too much RoundUp online last year?
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| Yep, yep, yep It's them fuckers at AT&T's fault yea!! Go get them!!!
*hears crickets*
It's the Goverment's fault yea!! Go get them!! impeach bush!!
*hears crickets again*
Ya know the most ironic part of this. You voted the suckers in the office, and You vote with your wallet paying at&t.
So now who's fault is it? Oh that's right.. It's YOURS!!
Ya know thinking about that day there is only one group that won that day. It's the terrorists, you stupid Americans didn't, no wonder you are pulling out of Iraq. How many more times are you going to let big corporations and goverment lie to you?
Oh that's right... you are better at beeing sheeple with your Mcdonalds drive throughs and Hummer H2's
Yea I will keep you people in mind. | |
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join:2005-01-05
North Jackson, OH | Re: Yep, yep, yep Please tell me you are not applying for citizenship.
Oh, and don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out.
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| Re: Yep, yep, yep said by DialupFool :Please tell me you are not applying for citizenship. Oh, and don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out. Later JimC Oh trust me it didn't hit me on the way out. I couldn't wait to get out fast enough. I see my parents 2x a year. I had citizenship once. I got tired of paying for everyone else's fuckups including yours probably so I left. The sad thing is..... I am glad I did it!! | |
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North Jackson, OH | Re: Yep, yep, yep Glad to hear it!
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| Re: Yep, yep, yep said by MrFixitSC :said by notwrth10 :I left. The sad thing is..... I am glad I did it!! We're not sad you did.. Trust me I am not sad, I feel sorry for my parents and others in the U.S.'s control, but I can drive a horse to water all day, if he don't drink, who makes him? | |
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AT&T Whistleblower's First Public Interview
