tobyTroy Mcclure join:2001-11-13 Seattle, WA
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toby
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2007-Apr-4 11:31 am
Sounds okDon't see the problem here . . | |
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| FFH5 Premium Member join:2002-03-03 Tavistock NJ |
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2007-Apr-4 11:51 am
Re: Sounds oksaid by toby:Don't see the problem here . . Me either. Saves the cost of prosecuting them. But I am sure their relatives will be suing the power company because the fence wasn't high enough or the site wasn't patrolled by guards, etc. | |
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| | en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA |
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2007-Apr-4 11:58 am
Re: Sounds okThat would be the case if they were in California. | |
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Re: Sounds ok...and NJ. I recall a Princeton U. student that climbed the fence to a NJ Transit train and climbed to the top of the car. Sued and won. He is, however, confined to a wheelchair. NJtransit picked up his tuition. Campus security, btw, found lots of "paraphernalia " in his dorm room at time of electrocution. Darwin -1 | |
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P92
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2007-Apr-4 2:34 pm
Re: Sounds okConfined to a wheelchair and also had his arms amputed at or near the elbows. That's what happens when you turn your entire body into a resistor.
I don't know what was in his dorm. However, he also brought suit against some clubs where he had been drinking that night (in one case, he and some friends had actually broken into the club after it had closed). I recall that these claims settled before trial. | |
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It is a shame that the student wan the lawsuit. NJtransit should have appealed the lawsuit. | |
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| | peter_m Premium Member join:2005-07-13 Canada, QC |
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Also sounds like good nominations for the Darwin awards!
But then again, were they stupid and greedy or just desperate to get food on the table ? | |
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said by FFH5:said by toby:Don't see the problem here . . Me either. Saves the cost of prosecuting them. But I am sure their relatives will be suing the power company because the fence wasn't high enough or the site wasn't patrolled by guards, etc. but lets seriously look at the good side of this, the person stealing the copper, ( Copper Thieves Turning Up Dead Trying to strip copper from utility poles). I'am sure has been taught a valuable lesson & would even dare say,the thieves would probally PROMAISE,never to steal copper again | |
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said by FFH5:said by toby:Don't see the problem here . . Me either. Saves the cost of prosecuting them. But I am sure their relatives will be suing the power company because the fence wasn't high enough or the site wasn't patrolled by guards, etc. but lets seriously look at the good side of this, the person stealing the copper, ( Copper Thieves Turning Up Dead Trying to strip copper from utility poles). I'am sure has been taught a valuable lesson & would even dare say,the thieves would probally PROMAISE,never to steal copper again | |
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Works for me! Better these guys off themselves than the taxpayers have to pay for a trail and incarceration. On a similar note, it reminds me of the striking telco worker a few years ago who tried to sabotage a trunk line. He took a chain saw to what he thought was a trunk line covered by metal safety cover. Turned out to be a 13.6KV feeder line Unfortunately he survived and had his initial arraignment in a hospital bed! | |
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peter_m
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2007-Apr-4 2:54 pm
Re: Sounds okWonder if there are pictures of the explosion (not the body burns) ? | |
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2007-Apr-4 6:58 pm
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said by toby:Don't see the problem here . . Heh. It would be even better if it said "Car thieves turn up dead" or "Home Burglars found dead" etc | |
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| KearnstdSpace Elf Premium Member join:2002-01-22 Mullica Hill, NJ |
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i wonder if you owned a ice cream shop could your insurance sue the family of the guy who fried because his attempt to steal copper caused a power failure.
if you lost product due to the loss of power.(many store owners who sell parishables insure against power loss). | |
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Big Time
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2007-Apr-6 5:58 pm
Re: Sounds oksaid by Kearnstd:i wonder if you owned a ice cream shop could your insurance sue the family of the guy who fried because his attempt to steal copper caused a power failure. if you lost product due to the loss of power.(many store owners who sell parishables insure against power loss). Seeing as how you can pretty much sue anyone for anything these days, probably so. Getting it to court and a jury might be a different story. | |
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Jim Gurd Premium Member join:2000-07-08 Livonia, MI |
Jim Gurd
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2007-Apr-4 11:31 am
ThievesGood. | |
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B04
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2007-Apr-4 11:32 am
Steel Your Nerveselectrocuted while trying to steel copper A quick fix to the above would be, er, elementary, as it were. -- B P.S. yes I know steel's not an element. Just testing my, er, mettle? I hope this doesn't leave a stain. | |
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Fiber saves lives!RA! | |
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I am afraid...The Darwin Awards will have to create a whole new category of its structure to account for these flights of genius.
If you can't do the fryin', don't do the crime. | |
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Bitey
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2007-Apr-4 11:36 am
We need to tell more junky thieves...about this exciting new business opportunity! | |
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| Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistol Premium Member join:2003-01-31 Fullerton, CA |
Re: We need to tell more junky thievessaid by Bitey:...about this exciting new business opportunity! Let them find out for themselves... | |
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Shocking!Ba-dum-dum | |
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| Radio ActiveMy pappy's a pistol Premium Member join:2003-01-31 Fullerton, CA |
Re: Shocking!My thought, but you were first to say it... | |
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2007-Apr-4 11:39 am
We need that for carsAn electrocution alarm system for cars and houses (well, maybe just businesses) would be nice. | |
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Thieves were Crazy to try & steal Live Electrical CablesA few less thieves, They were dumb enough to try to remove Live copper high voltage cables, And they wondered why It's not an occupied installation? Cause the High Voltage kills If Its handled without the right tools, So It makes It It's own security, Unless the thieves are clueless and soon to be dead. | |
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| Ivybridge_I7Cyber-Crime Researcher OpSec Premium Member join:2004-06-09 Daytona Beach, FL 1 edit |
Re: Thieves were Crazy to try & steal Live Electrical Cablessaid by zoom314:A few less thieves, They were dumb enough to try to remove Live copper high voltage cables, And they wondered why It's not an occupied installation? Cause the High Voltage kills If Its handled without the right tools, So It makes It It's own security, Unless the thieves are clueless and soon to be dead. I seen pictures on I think it was rotten.com with a guy in Russia going up a utility pole to steal copper wire. Once he touched the wire he became a crispy critter because of the kilo-volts involved. The picture shows the guy hanging back off the pole with his arm completely toasted. It was a pretty graphic picture of what ( electrocution) can do to you. By the way it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current involved. I have been jolted badly in the past from one hundred and twenty volts. Keep in mind that AC voltage is usual measured in RMS (root means square). Actual AC voltage is calculated out at:(alternating current voltage x 1.414= peak voltage or peak voltage x two= peak to peak voltage) | |
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Re: Thieves were Crazy to try & steal Live Electrical Cablessaid by Ivybridge_I7:said by zoom314:A few less thieves, They were dumb enough to try to remove Live copper high voltage cables, And they wondered why It's not an occupied installation? Cause the High Voltage kills If Its handled without the right tools, So It makes It It's own security, Unless the thieves are clueless and soon to be dead. I seen pictures on I think it was rotten.com with a guy in Russia going up a utility pole to steal copper wire. Once he touched the wire he became a crispy critter because of the kilo-volts involved. The picture shows the guy hanging back off the pole with his arm completely toasted. It was a pretty graphic picture of what execution can do to you. By the way it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current involved. I have been jolted badly in the past from one hundred and twenty volts. Keep in mind that AC voltage is usual measured in RMS (root means square). Actual AC voltage is calculated out at:(alternating current voltage x 1.414= peak voltage or peak voltage x two= peak to peak voltage) Yeah It's not a nice way to go and I've been jolted once by a live 120vac wire once, But only once. | |
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Re: Thieves were Crazy to try & steal Live Electrical Cablessaid by zoom314:said by Ivybridge_I7:I seen pictures on I think it was rotten.com with a guy in Russia going up a utility pole to steal copper wire. Once he touched the wire he became a crispy critter because of the kilo-volts involved. The picture shows the guy hanging back off the pole with his arm completely toasted. It was a pretty graphic picture of what execution can do to you. By the way it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current involved. I have been jolted badly in the past from one hundred and twenty volts. Keep in mind that AC voltage is usual measured in RMS (root means square). Actual AC voltage is calculated out at:(alternating current voltage x 1.414= peak voltage or peak voltage x two= peak to peak voltage) Yeah It's not a nice way to go and I've been jolted once by a live 120vac wire once, But only once. The alternating voltage that comes out of your electrical outlet is real not 12O VAC it's '169.68' ( peak) VAC at the top of the sine wave. This is why you get the rapid jolting (60 hertz per second),pain-full feeling when you touch the connection and short to ground though your body. The 120 volts(AC) is just the average, use-able part of the sine wave. It's the root-means-square of the sine wave. | |
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Re: Thieves were Crazy to try & steal Live Electrical Cablessaid by Ivybridge_I7:The alternating voltage that comes out of your electrical outlet is real not 12O VAC it's '169.68' ( peak) VAC at the top of the sine wave. This is why you get the rapid jolting (60 hertz per second),pain-full feeling when you touch the connection and short to ground though your body. The 120 volts(AC) is just the average, use-able part of the sine wave. It's the root-means-square of the sine wave. Why the Tech explanation all of a sudden? It's called 120vac, that is good enough for most, Me included, I know of waveforms and such, But co-sines and sines I don't. As I have a GED and a couple certificates in computers and 27 years experience using computers. I also know how to replace an outlet or a switch If need be, Or even wire up a New Electrical Circuit or in extreme cases a breaker if need be, Not that I'd normally need to, I'm disabled, Not stupid or dumb. So please I'm not an electrical engineer, Ok? | |
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Re: Thieves were Crazy to try & steal Live Electrical Cablessaid by zoom314:said by Ivybridge_I7:The alternating voltage that comes out of your electrical outlet is real not 12O VAC it's '169.68' ( peak) VAC at the top of the sine wave. This is why you get the rapid jolting (60 hertz per second),pain-full feeling when you touch the connection and short to ground though your body. The 120 volts(AC) is just the average, use-able part of the sine wave. It's the root-means-square of the sine wave. Why the Tech explanation all of a sudden? It's called 120vac, that is good enough for most, Me included, I know of waveforms and such, But co-sines and sines I don't. As I have a GED and a couple certificates in computers and 27 years experience using computers. I also know how to replace an outlet or a switch If need be, Or even wire up a New Electrical Circuit or in extreme cases a breaker if need be, Here's a site that will explain it to you in basic form. » www.allaboutcircuits.com ··· 1/2.htmlI would imagine if you are going to work on computers you should know a little information of the properties of alternating current. You don't need a engineering degree or a high level of intelligences to understand the process of Alternating Current. Sorry for going into to much detail, but it does explain the process of electrocution. | |
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said by zoom314:said by Ivybridge_I7:The alternating voltage that comes out of your electrical outlet is real not 12O VAC it's '169.68' ( peak) VAC at the top of the sine wave. This is why you get the rapid jolting (60 hertz per second),pain-full feeling when you touch the connection and short to ground though your body. The 120 volts(AC) is just the average, use-able part of the sine wave. It's the root-means-square of the sine wave. Why the Tech explanation all of a sudden? It's called 120vac, that is good enough for most, Me included, I know of waveforms and such, But co-sines and sines I don't. As I have a GED and a couple certificates in computers and 27 years experience using computers. I also know how to replace an outlet or a switch If need be, Or even wire up a New Electrical Circuit or in extreme cases a breaker if need be, Not that I'd normally need to, I'm disabled, Not stupid or dumb. So please I'm not an electrical engineer, Ok? Calm down Skippy, he just tossed a little book learnin at yew, it ain't a goin to bite. | |
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said by Ivybridge_I7:It was a pretty graphic picture of what execution can do to you. No kidding. A good execution will kill you every time! | |
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xNPCAs Usual, Have Nice Day Premium Member join:2000-11-08 Errington, BC |
xNPC
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2007-Apr-4 11:55 am
next timebetter use that 188a test set. | |
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NetFixer
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2007-Apr-4 11:56 am
This is nothing newThis has been going on since the days of telegraph poles, take it from someone who has been called in to clean up the mess.
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Re: This is nothing newIn the little(and I mean LITTLE!) town I live in, summertime is the time for sciurus explosivus.
In the summer, the little buggers run the lines. Six times last year, minimum, I would be sitting at the computer with the window or deck door open, hear a bloody great explosion and the lights would go off. One time, it happened right outside the window. I went downstairs to see what might be left of the tree rat.
Nothing. Apparently, it had been rendered unto its sub-atomic structure. | |
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Every Occupation has them.....Job hazards. I have paper cuts to deal with and they have electrocutions. it all balances out in the end. | |
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Re: Every Occupation has them.....Except that paper cuts don't kill you.
Still, it is pretty stupid of them to try and steal live copper. But hey, it saves the taxpayers some money that would have otherwise been spent by the legal system. | |
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| | BoogeymanDrive it like you stole it Premium Member join:2002-12-17 Wasilla, AK |
Re: Every Occupation has them.....Paper cuts can TOO kill you. If it gets infected and you get gangrene. Or if the paper was dipped in cyanide. /sarcasm LOL, I can see Dateline or someone doing a show... "Office workers have more to fear than just carpal tunnel now..." "Friends close to the deceased said the victim 'Said he didnt need a band-aid and that he was fine..' Little did he know that paper cuts were nothing to joke about..." Sorry, I had to. | |
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Common problemSondsl like they were tweakers (meth users) it is worst in the construction business, tweakers are ripping up new homes to get at the copper. | |
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Real ethical group, too...I had the house I was renting destroyed by a flood last summer, and while the county was a disaster zone, and we were struggling through knee-deep mud to help neighbors, many guys were going house to house to strip them of copper in the night.
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Ivybridge_I7Cyber-Crime Researcher OpSec Premium Member join:2004-06-09 Daytona Beach, FL |
Copper Thieves Turning Up Dead (DOH!)"New Hampshire men were electrocuted while trying to steal copper wire from an unoccupied power plant". They need to put that on Youtube.com. That would be the funniest thing to see. The stealing of copper (copper pipe) is a growing problem in the Wilkes-barre Pa. area. Drug addicts are breaking into houses during the day, and stealing all the copper in the basement. Around here, you can get about two dollars a pound at the local scrap dealer. | |
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I'm on your telephone pole stealing your Copper oh waitthats a powerline ZAP RAID kills bugs dead | |
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swintec
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2007-Apr-4 12:45 pm
New Hampshire?The article says two Mass. men were electrocuted, not two NH men. | |
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PhoenixDownFIOS is Awesome Premium Member join:2003-06-08 Fresh Meadows, NY |
How much do they expect to make?I see how much a pound of copper is going for but how many pounds of this stuff do they really expect to walk away with? Enough to even make this worthwhile? | |
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Redneck special olympicsMust add stealing copper from power poles to the Redneck special olympics. | |
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notacrook
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2007-Apr-4 2:40 pm
no buyers, no marketWho are the buyers? They must know they are buying stolen goods. If the cops are serious about stamping this out they know where to go look. | |
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anth0r
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2007-Apr-5 1:33 am
Re: no buyers, no marketsaid by notacrook :
Who are the buyers? They must know they are buying stolen goods. If the cops are serious about stamping this out they know where to go look. You can easily recycle copper for cash. Even if it has other metals on it. Just burn the plastic off the wiring..ect....They've been stealing water heaters in my area and straight tearing copper water lines from peoples homes. It keeps my business busy though =P | |
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here in AR at least, they're considering a law that would make scrap buyers keep records now, which should stem the flow a bit. | |
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