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And area unions don't believe them....
(old news - 09:40AM Tuesday Apr 10 2007)
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Fairpoint Communications officials have been promising "a major uptick" in both broadband speed and availability in order to win regulatory approval of their recent deal with Verizon. They're also promising no price hikes, new jobs and to honor existing union contracts. Local unions aren't buying it -- and doubt Fairpoint (which is adding 1.8 million phone customers to its previous 309,000 total) can handle the new systems and keep all their promises. Fairpoint continues to insist that more rural networks are their niche, claiming they'll quickly ramp up broadband penetration after Verizon refused to do so.

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china crisis

join:2003-05-28

Promises,Promises

Promises are to get and make deals, not keep them. Remember this one.
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grandrivers

join:2005-01-27
Rome, OH

Re: Promises,Promises

I have been part of the Fairpoint Communications company since they bought Orwell Telephone in 1999. They are only cost cutters if it costs they a penny they will figure how to save that penny. I was sent several surveys by them in my emails when filled out if you leave somewhere to be contacted they will tell you if your unhappy they oversold there cablemodem service you'll get told dialup is only 23.95 for at best a 36.6 connection to the same oversold internet t1's. they have it made when there the only ones in town and yes i too have seen sub dial up seeds on their system Friday nights use to dip alllll the way doooowwwwn to 9k even makes google time out.

pnh102
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Re: Promises,Promises

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I did not believe it either!
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... since they bought Orwell Telephone in 1999.
I was thinking... that has got to be the worst possible name that someone could come up with for a phone company!

But apparently, I was not the only one
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TKJunkMail
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Union contracts will be honored; but jobs will be cut

I doubt that Fairpoint would go back on a promise to honor existing contracts with unions. But they will bargain tougher than Verizon when union contracts come up for renewal and they will run a leaner shop than Verizon. And that means some of the employees that come over from Verizon will be cut. After all, Verizon is getting out of those New England areas because they can't make a profit there with their higher cost structure. The only reason Fairpoint is taking over those areas is because they can make some money due to lower costs. And they won't let ex-Verizon employees drive up their costs.
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vzfiosrox

join:2005-02-12
Tampa, FL
clubs:

fix the customers you already have please.. duh?

they need to work on their existing customers and give them higher broadband speeds and penetration before they go and move into new markets.. does anyone really believe that 768/256 which in reality is 400/150 are ok speeds when you pay $50 a month?.. and each month is goes up.. they really need to get their act together.. i mean i live outside the capital city of albany in a semi-rural area and i have tons of houses around me, its not like there is one house every 2 miles.. cumon? really fairpoint.. get your f&^%ing sh&t together. money hungry a$$holes.

yea.. so thats how i feel.. lol.
NYC Girl
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join:2007-02-04
Bronx, NY

Re: fix the customers you already have please.. duh?

50.00 per month for "dialup" speeds, that's terrible!!!! Very unfair!!!

DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA

Re: fix the customers you already have please.. duh?

351 kbps is not dialup speed.
NYC Girl
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join:2007-02-04
Bronx, NY

Re: fix the customers you already have please.. duh?

Well, according to the original post it might as well be. I had "dialup" in quotes. Aren't kbps lower than mbps? At any rate, people aren't happy w/it for the price they pay.
vzfiosrox

join:2005-02-12
Tampa, FL
clubs:

whoops sorry..

sorry i lied... the download speed is ~351kbps..

»speedtest.taconic.net/results.ph···corded=1

oh wait.. thats even worse.. lol

god i hate them people @ fairpoint..
vzfiosrox

join:2005-02-12
Tampa, FL
clubs:

every speed test gets worse.. and im not running anything..

there is no other data except from the speedtest on dslreports.. i also did the speedtest to my provider on my last comment.. this one is worse.. upload is about ~50kbps more then i said..



thats sooo not cool..
divideBYzero

join:2002-05-29
Bass Harbor, ME

Re: every speed test gets worse.. and im not running anything..

I used to have fairpoint and besides the usual weekly service outage the speeds were so-so. I got about the full 1.5Mbps I had when it was working, it took them over 2 weeks to do that because I had a bad line and they could not bother to fix it in a timely manner. Then the hard part came around, getting credit for the time. I did eventually but they never honored their first 6 months for $22.95 plan, they kept charging me the full $45 for the pathetic 1.5Mbps link and every month I had to call to get it corrected. And this is not the half of it. Case in point I think anyone I know who has Verizon that gets switched to this crap service will switch to Time Warner if they can because it will be the same price for 4x the speed.

kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?

join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
I think you have a ground hog gnawing on your copper...
vzfiosrox

join:2005-02-12
Tampa, FL
clubs:

Re: every speed test gets worse.. and im not running anything..

maybe lol.. they are coming to look at it today... so they say.. lol
daslog

join:2002-04-10
Milford, NH

its nothing to do with speeds

and everything to do with the Union knowing that in August 2008 Fairpoint is not going to give in to the Union's demands the way Verizon has always rolled.

For example, Fairpoint is not going to pay for 3 hours minimum of OT everytime a tech works past 5PM.
aglinka

join:2005-10-21
Saint Johnsbury, VT

Re: its nothing to do with speeds

FairPoint only goes up to 1.5Meg in their existing service areas, and charges ridiculous rates.
We don't even have unlimited LD available with fairpoint.
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daslog

join:2002-04-10
Milford, NH

Re: its nothing to do with speeds

I was referring to the Union's involvement with the issue only.
brainlessdog

join:2005-11-30
Portsmouth, NH

You have your facts wrong.

There is no minimum 3 hours OT past 5pm.

You have never read the contract, so please don't quote it.

The only reason Fairpoint says they will honor the existing contract is because they have to by law. They will layoff hundreds of employees after the existing contract expires.
daslog

join:2002-04-10
Milford, NH

Re: its nothing to do with speeds

I was just throwing out an example as to why the Union opposes the sale. I don't use Verizon so it doesn't affect me either way.

So what is it 2 hours?

If anything though, with the HUGE amounts of New England Verizon employees transferring to Massaschusettes I would think that they will be hiring for quite some time and not laying off.
brainlessdog

join:2005-11-30
Portsmouth, NH

Re: its nothing to do with speeds

Where are you getting your facts from? There is no minimum OT period. There is also no large transfer of employees to Massachusetts. Yes, some have gone, but not many. Verizon is not letting employees move. The employees are part of the sale. You obviously don't work union and don't understand.

datguy2

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there is no minimum amount of OT required after 5pm!

The only time there is a minimum is when there is a call out when you are home at night or on the weekends..

cableties
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Whistling Dixie...

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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

$

Fairpoint wont do anything except sit on USF $. FTTP, forget about it!
Otter042564

join:2007-06-18
Mechanic Falls, ME

(Un)Fairpoint

I am an ex-employee of Fairpoint's Maine operations. I have been involved with the Maine Public Advocate's Office on several issues regarding Fairpoint. I encourage anyone with an interest in the Verizon to Fairpoint sale to read the on-line posting of Randy Barber's testimony to the Vermont Public Utilities Commission. I am also an ex-customer of Fairpoint, but unfortunately a current customer of Verizon. I live in a small town and have DSL and phone service (most of the time), unless there is a high wind. Speaking of high winds, that's what any claims made by the Fairpoint Management amount to. I am a recovering Fairpoint accountant, and I can assure you the way they structure the Management Fees from the mothership to the RLEC's is not in the best interest of rural customers or the states they reside in. The Maine PUC wrote me off as a disgruntled ex-employee a few years back, but the Public Advocate's Office listened to what I had to say during a Fairpoint rate case. The PUC basically rubber-stamped the deal Fairpoint wanted, and sure enough, the picture of the future Fairpoint painted back then is nothing like the reality of today. After Fairpoint bought out the RLEC I worked for there was a honeymoon period of about two years. Then they liquidated the over-funded pension (I wonder where the over-funded part went), and started getting rid of the older (higher paid) employees through various means. Looking back I can only say thank goodness I don't work for those #@&*%'s anymore, and I worry about the folks I know who still work for UnFairpoint, although there are fewer of the original employees there each year. It's a beautiful day in Maine and I am going canoeing, so long Fairpoint, hope your Verizon deal falls through.
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