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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| What happened ? Did at&t finally see the light so to speak ? This is great , means bandwidth costs will continue to fall.
Next maybe they can buy some of the dark fiber and light that with their old equipment.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
·Cox HSI
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| Re: What happened ? said by BosstonesOwn  :Did at&t finally see the light so to speak ? This is great , means bandwidth costs will continue to fall. Next maybe they can buy some of the dark fiber and light that with their old equipment. I always love when people talk about "lighting dark fibre". There's this perception that there's this massive excess of unused, usable fibre out there. While it's true that there's a lot of dormant fibre out there, what percentage of it is actually immediately usable is unknown.
All you have to do is watch the news and see how often the already lit fibre gets cut by some git with a backhoe. People notice when lit fibre gets cut because, well, it's in use. It's immediately evident that the line has been cut.
Dark fibre, on the other hand... Well, it's a lot less noticeable if it's gotten cut, damaged or has otherwise degraded. Maintenance to it is generally only going to happen in cases where parallel lit fibre has been degraded.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: What happened ? ok , but you really don't see the forest for the trees.
If they lit the dark fiber with OLD equipment it provides REDUNDANCY for next to NOTHING. The investment was already made in the equipment. Plus just maybe they could then have another option later on when capcity is soaked up with this new fangled thing called the interweb.
Now with hat being said, realize i have worked with at&t and repairing fiber is 1 / 10th the cost of getting the right of way and paying to actually lay the fiber. If the cable was cut by some hick with a back hoe who cares ? It can be repaired for cheaper then using other peoples pop's.
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| mrbueno
join:2002-08-03
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1 edit | I am not so sure that when the phone company spends more money they drop prices. | |
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
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join:2005-03-14
League City, TX
clubs:
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| Re: What happened ? said by mrbueno :I am not so sure that when the phone company spends more money they drop prices. Agreed figuring if they have to spend money which the investors are pissing and moaning about the prices will increase, or there will be a secret "Charge" in the bill to cover this upgrade.
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cypherstream
Looking forward to the future of things.
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
clubs:
| What no pics? When I click on the link for the Cisco CRS-1 router, I expect to see a picture of it with some more details.
So here, because Light Reading fails to include one:
»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5···dex.html | |
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FicmanS
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join:2005-01-11
Brownsburg, IN
clubs: | Re: What no pics? Sweet look'n Box | |
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join:2006-01-28
Cedar Park, TX | Where is the NSA-1 port on that? | |
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odog
Cable Centric Vendor Biased
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join:2001-08-05
Norcross, GA
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1 edit | Re: Switch to Cisco probably out of necessity... It's hard to stay in the biz when your only customer switches to another vendor! | |
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-29
The Lou | Re: Switch to Cisco probably out of necessity... Uh, no...They're dropping the core routing line because Cisco and Juniper own the lion's share of those markets.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Re: Switch to Cisco probably out of necessity... exactly, they had i think 10 core customers going into 2006, i believe at&t was the last.
their routers were very good products , they just never really took off. and I never figured out why.
I got to play with 2 in my life and I was impressed by them.
hmm sometimes good products don't get a foot hold and die.
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@telus.net | Re: Switch to Cisco probably out of necessity... thats a shame. | |
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| said by BosstonesOwn :hmm sometimes good products don't get a foot hold and die. *cough* Foundry Networks core routers *cough*
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | Re: Switch to Cisco probably out of necessity... I liked foundry too. great bandwidth monitoring tools. | |
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join:2001-09-15
Stockbridge, GA | Yeah, I was wondering why they did not got with Juniper. Juniper's are nominally around 50% the cost of Cisco on a per port basis. Plus they don't have as many nickel & dimes costs as Cisco (or Nortel) does. | |
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join:2004-04-21
Austin, TX
| Re: Switch to Cisco probably out of necessity... One thing to consider here is that AT&T is Cisco's largest single customer. AT&T & Cisco also have a relatively long history. Cisco Products are also at the core of AT&T's Frame Relay & ATM Networks (Stratacom) as well as almost every Managed Internet Router that AT&T deploys for their customers. They also resell Cisco products. I think they ended up with a pretty good deal. | |
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papineau
join:2005-06-29
Chicago, IL
| said by odog :It's hard to stay in the biz when your only customer switches to another vendor! One thing to note:
Avici's second largest customer was ENRON. | |
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join:2001-09-15
Stockbridge, GA | Re: I want one..... One Oc-3 is approx 155M, but there is overhead so the SPE (Sonet Payload Envelope) or your data is only 140 so doing the math in M returns a line speed (NOT DATA THROUGHPUT) of 39813M. Pretty dang fast! | |
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| raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | OC-768 = 40 Gbps
Surprised they waited this long to upgrade from OC-192 (10 Gbps) backplane. Sprint, Verio/NTT upgraded their networks to OC-768 a few years back I think. | |
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join:2000-10-02
Baytown, TX
1 edit | Re: I want one..... There talking about upgrading to 100Gbps not 40 with this platform. Most of there backbone happens to be running at 40gigs already. | |
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@pacbell.net | next will be 1tb? with video probably so | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | OC-768 I want one. | |
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AT&T Taps Cisco For OC-768 Upgrade
