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Vonage Seizes on Supreme Court Ruling
Wants retrial after 'obviousness' patent criteria changed...
by Karl Bode 09:10AM Wednesday May 02 2007 Tipped by Rick See Profile
Yesterday the Supreme Court ruled on a number of patent cases -- making it more difficult to get a patent and easier to challenge existing ones. In particular, the Supreme Court's ruling in the case of KSR International v. Teleflex made it easier to invalidate some patents on the grounds they are obvious inventions. Vonage quickly seized on the ruling, issuing a press release urging for a retrial "based on the new test for determining when an invention is too obvious to warrant patent protection." As discussed, the Verizon patents that threaten Vonage's existence have been under increased skepticism since the original court ruling.

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Warwick, NY

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Re: Vonage needs to realize

said by rodrod5:

well i just never got real excited about a "feature filled phone"

I just like to pick it up and make a few calls.....sometimes im even ok when it rings

If my residence was a business then im sure I would need many more features on a phone.....many more than vonage would deliver.....and with much more reliability...and I would be willing to pay a bit more for that

as for a home phone....just don't need "features".....I have enough other cool crap to learn about than a phone
It's not about "learning the phone", whatever that means. My Vonage line works just like any other phone. The service has been rock solid for the 3 years I've had it. Of course, it's dependent on the quality of internet service, but if that's good (which mine is), most people have no issues. Cell phones provide backup for that rare internet or power outage.

In addition to what Enlightener See Profile said, it's also about cost. Maybe YOU don't make a lot of long distance calls that providers like Verizon charge an arm and a leg for, but many of us do. Before I got Vonage, my phone bill was running, at a minimum, anywhere from $250-$300 per MONTH from LD calls to the UK. I got Vonage, paying about $32/Mo. (including taxes) for the unlimited plan and my bill dropped to 1/3 of what it was. Then Vonage started including Europe in their calling area for free and it dropped to the base rate of $32.....for the same amount of calls.

There's no way traditional POTS providers can, or would even want to, compete with that. And don't they know it. This isn't about patent infringement, that's only the excuse. It's about killing competition that Verizon can't compete with.
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Belvidere, NJ

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Re: Really?

Poop. I was getting ready to submit my patents on my two new revolutionary inventions. I call them "dirt" and "air". I also had a first draft working on something I call "paper".

Drats. Foiled again.


Cedar Park, TX

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Re: Vonage needs to realize

Here is why I think VoIP is a very big deal... It has nothing to do with saving $20/mo.

If you go back to networking 101, there are three basic types of networks: Circuit Switched, Packet Switched and Mail Switched ( Any one here remember Fidonet?? )

POTS/PSTN used to be all circuit switched. Now the backbone is primarily packet switched providing virtual circuits. But the individual lines from the CO/RT to the house are still circuit switch.

VoIP extends this concept by basically turning the phone line from a circuit to an application session. In turn this abstraction allows the phone to run as a service over a generic dumb fat pipe just like any other application you use.

This is a big deal because we are seeing all our various applications ( IPTV for one ) all converge over a single package based network. In the long run I think this is a very big deal and very important to how we design our networks in the future. One big network instead of dedicated silo'd networks that can't interop.

The phone companies hate this because they aren't sure how to base a business model on it, but it's going to happen anyways. There are just too many reasons to go this way

Des Plaines, IL

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said by rodrod5:

I still don't get the whole VOIP rage anyway...it is just a stupid phone...people act like it is some great new inovative idea...it is just a phone
It's not about the phone. With VoIP sometimes there isn't any phone.

It's about the voice. The voice of the people. Putting that voice where it doesn't belong--on a data network. We're sticking it to The Man, man!