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Market by market deployment finished by year's end...
(old news - 02:27PM Tuesday May 08 2007)
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Though our users have been reporting the faster upstream speeds for months, Comcast today officially announced that they're deploying their upstream Powerboost technology on a market-by-market basis, and should be finished by the end of the year. The service offers 6Mbps/384kbps customers 1Mbps upstream speeds for the first 5MB of a large upload, while 8Mbps/768kbps customers see 2Mbps upstream speeds for the first 10MB of a large upload.

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punker
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dose it work with torrent?

See subject
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jjsk8r85

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Re: dose it work with torrent?

said by punker See Profile :

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no. doesn't work with bt or any other p2p for that matter.

only http port 80 as far as i know.

DreamWraith
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Mount Vernon, WA

Re: dose it work with torrent?

negative. it for sure works on ftp as well. and im guessing any normal tcp based connection.

Morac

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May 8th, @05:47PM

yes.

You will be a brief boost when you start uploading to someone, but it doesn't last long.

Depending on how often your torrent client stops and startup uploads though you can exceed your normal upload speeds though since each time it goes to upload you'll get the boost. I've seen a sustained speed of slightly over 400 kbps with an upload speed of 364 kbps, but you won't get a sustained 1 (or 2) mbps upload speed.

The main difference now is that briefly going about your upload limit (364 or 764) won't kill your download speeds or affect your ping times.
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patcat88

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Re: dose it work with torrent?

said by Morac See Profile :

yes.

You will be a brief boost when you start uploading to someone, but it doesn't last long.

Depending on how often your torrent client stops and startup uploads though you can exceed your normal upload speeds though since each time it goes to upload you'll get the boost. I've seen a sustained speed of slightly over 400 kbps with an upload speed of 364 kbps, but you won't get a sustained 1 (or 2) mbps upload speed.

The main difference now is that briefly going about your upload limit (364 or 764) won't kill your download speeds or affect your ping times.
Is the boost applied to each new TCP connection, or its just applied to all uploads based on a timer/bucket?

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Re: dose it work with torrent?

said by patcat88 See Profile :

Is the boost applied to each new TCP connection, or its just applied to all uploads based on a timer/bucket?
It appears to boost for each new connection, but I'm not positive. I'm pretty sure the downloads do the same as well.
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MPScan
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So?

I get 2Mbps upload (steady) with my FiOS for $16 less per month.

Ebolla

join:2005-09-28
Dracut, MA

Re: So?

not a big deal to you since you seeing above those speeds, but for people in non FiOS areas then yes it is a big deal. Well at least for those who utilize larger uploads.

dvd536
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for those on loaded nodes dont get too excited, you wont be seeing anything.
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May 8th, @07:07PM

Time Warner is rolling out similar speeds in their competing with FiOS. Our area just got bumped to 15/2 today. For upload boost I would have expected a bit more from Comcast than 2Mb. 2Mb just brings them on par with some of their tougher competitors like Verizon.
patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

Re: So?

TWC in NYC just now upgraded to 10/512 officially for standard (12/768 for premium), I dont that will change anyones mind who was already planing to get, or has FIOS. For about a year TWC didnt compete at all with FIOS, even though an entire borough (NYC is made of 5 counties, called "boroughs") is covered in FIOS (Staten Island), and its available in a large quadrant of another borough (Bayside in Queens).

I thought TWC is in denial about FIOS, I think it still is. It seriously thinks that it can convince customers to like the TWC brand more than Verizon brand, regardless of anything else.

lm5449
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Who cares.

ColorBASIC
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Re: So?

Those looking at how Comcast is responding to their stiffest and ever expanding competitor.
quatrix

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Davie, FL

Re: So?

It's irrelevant to most users until Verizon buys AT&T.

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May 8th, @10:05PM

Re: So?

True but only in the very short term. It will have an impact with those users eventually. For example, the same FiOS pressure that is on Comcast is also on TWC who has been raising speeds. I'm in a FiOS area and our extreme tier has been getting a bump to 15/2 in FiOS markets. I just got my bump today. But also today, the adjoining TWC area that is outside of Verizon's service area (and in AT&Ts) got the bump too. It creates a domino effect. So while someone may not face FiOS, they may face TWC and a new 15/2 tier and have to respond. Then in another market that provider forces another provider to respond. The trick is getting the first provider to jump and over the last couple of years that pressure has come solely from FiOS. We saw Cablevision, Cox and Comcast all respond to those pressures raising speeds drastically. And those cable providers will bring pressure on AT&T and their U-Verse to do better than 6Mb.

newview
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It ain't workin' here, Comcast



Of course, I don't subscribe to their cableTV, so maybe this is just another penalty.

johnny_t
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Re: It ain't workin' here, Comcast

said by newview See Profile :



Of course, I don't subscribe to their cableTV, so maybe this is just another penalty.
Download Speed: 17196 kbps (2149.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 1627 kbps (203.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Xizer

join:2004-02-05
Kenosha, WI

Amazing speed

Wow, 1 Mbps for a whole 5 MB!

That is incredible! Comcast, I quiver in anticipation for these impressive speeds.

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Re: Amazing speed

said by Xizer See Profile :

Wow, 1 Mbps for a whole 5 MB!

That is incredible! Comcast, I quiver in anticipation for these impressive speeds.
While not necessarily an "OMFG" improvement, in their defense, this is probably geared more for people that are doing picture uploads, not archive or media (CD rips) uploads. For example, I could upload fifty 100KB JPEGs before hitting that 5MB back-off. Most people aren't uploading that many pictures at once. And, even if they are, the files uploaded might be significantly smaller.
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dbw09
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1Mbps is still > 384kbps... and without additional cost.. so why downplay the enhancement, even if it is only for the first 5MB? Perhaps you should call Comcast and ask to be excluded from deployment?

TK Junk Mail
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Re: Amazing speed

said by dbw09 See Profile :

1Mbps is still > 384kbps... and without additional cost.. so why downplay the enhancement, even if it is only for the first 5MB? Perhaps you should call Comcast and ask to be excluded from deployment?
I have 6/384 service and I am getting 1.5 mbps upload speeds as well a downloads in the 20mbps speeds and greater. And if you aren't a big movie downloader or P2P user, these speeds are a nice bonus with no additional cost.
Here was the latest 2 tests I did:


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patcat88

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said by dbw09 See Profile :

1Mbps is still > 384kbps... and without additional cost.. so why downplay the enhancement, even if it is only for the first 5MB? Perhaps you should call Comcast and ask to be excluded from deployment?
Lets see how many flamers here will say that they DO NOT want Powerboost turned on their personal modems. It is better than nothing remember.
hadirtyJlo

join:2004-03-31
Huntsville, AL

eh..

I still think it's nothing more than a stopgap measure. I have nightly slowdowns and daily disconnects, both happening at almost the exact same times every day/night. The only reason I'm with them is because they offer the cheapest fast net in the area, and it's not all that cheap..

DJ
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Re: eh..

said by hadirtyJlo See Profile :

I still think it's nothing more than a stopgap measure. I have nightly slowdowns and daily disconnects, both happening at almost the exact same times every day/night. The only reason I'm with them is because they offer the cheapest fast net in the area, and it's not all that cheap..

DJ
A stopgap from what? I guess I am confused as to how your connection problems relate to the roll out of upload powerboost...
hadirtyJlo

join:2004-03-31
Huntsville, AL

Re: eh..

Wasn't trying to make a connection, just needed to bitch about it. The stopgap comment was meant towards how they only up speeds in areas in direct competition with FIOS.

DJ

ninjatutle

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Great, now acknodleknhdges CAP-age

The amount, thats all.
chibianh

join:2002-04-14
Denver, CO

works in P2P for more than 5MB..

For me, upload powerboost seems to be working for the first 20MB of an upload, no matter what the application. So far, I've experienced it using bittorrent, AIM, ftp, and webdav

LiberalKing
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edit:
May 8th, @05:37PM

lol 1MB speed for first 5 megabytes

WHAT A JOKE!

while me here seeding a torrent at 5MB(511.03kB/s) speed

dvd536
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Re: lol 1MB speed for first 5 megabytes

you must be on boost or that upload would have been capped by now. and its 5mb not 5MB.
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ehurtley

join:2001-11-24
Portland, OR
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Hrmph.





I was getting 8-10 Mb/s down, 1.5 Mbps up consistently until last week.

Whoops, nevermind. The Flash test just sucks for me. Here are some with the Java test:



spike010101
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May 8th, @06:53PM

im happpy

im happy
Nightwchtr

join:2001-09-10
Falls Church, VA

Re: im happpy

I keep my fios at 12/5

moko

join:2002-12-22
Fayetteville, GA

Re: im happpy

i like it....but i'm looking forward to video messaging with friends.....this needs a consistent 1.5meg or higher upload all the time.
dekerfman

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Weirton, WV

Re: im happpy


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Yaynot

I think this whole powerboost and whatever bullshet idea of the first 1 mb upload is so stupid. Why not just raise the upload speed by a smaller margain? I'm sure we'll see tigher caps soon lol.
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May 9th, @04:54AM

Looking good here!



Looking good here in Mendocino County in Northwestern California! We were recently transitioned from Adelphia to Comcast, I'm pretty impressed with the speeds, DSL (if we could get it) couldn't match that. I doubt we'll ever see fiber in this rural area, AT&T can't even get DSL to a lot of this county, with only Ukiah, Willits and Fort Bragg having it. Willits Online has Wireless Broadband in a lot of areas now, often in underserved places like Potter Valley and Laytonville, though it's much slower and more expensive than wired broadband.
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