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Maxo
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| Price? So for twice, or more, the price of a theater ticket, which entitles me to a huge screen and a nice surround sound system, I can watch it on my relatively small TV with four speakers doing stereo. The movie theaters should just ignore it and let it die on it's own. | |
|  | yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON
| Re: Price? I guess if you go by yourself(who does that?) then it's expensive but compare it to going with 3-4 people and it's about the same price. The only thing good about the theatre is the sound can be cranked up without your neighbours bitching. Film in the theatres is always dirty and shaky. | |
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Redwood Valley, CA | Re: Price? I agree Maxo, and yabos, it all depends on the theater you go to  | |
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Maxo
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| Re: Price? I think it could also depend on the movie. I bet for major released like Spider Man, Lord of the Rings, or Star Wars, this could have drawn a large market. Go to a buddies house with a nice system and chip in $5, plus chips and drinks (reasonably priced) it could be worth it. | |
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Maxo
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| Re: Price? said by Rick  :Personally, I view it as a time to see something I really wanted to see and get into and not have to socialize with someone else while it's playing. I've gone to the movies alone many times as well. Most people see it as being a loser, but I don't put much stock in other people's judgements.
Since you can't exactly hold a conversation during a movie it's not exactly a social experience. So if the movie's good enough and nobody else is down I'm game for a solo viewing.
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| This would be a fantastic deal. It costs me $100 to take my family out to the theater *and* I have to deal with all the idiots yapping the movie away around me. The chance to cut my movie night cost in half and enjoy it on my home theater system? Where do I sign up??
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| said by Maxo :So for twice, or more, the price of a theater ticket, which entitles me to a huge screen and a nice surround sound system, I can watch it on my relatively small TV with four speakers doing stereo. The movie theaters should just ignore it and let it die on it's own. Of course, your financial comparison only applies if it was "only you" going to the theater. If it was at least two or maybe more if a family is going, then your savings going to the theater disappear.
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| | BF69
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Camden, TN
| said by Maxo :So for twice, or more, the price of a theater ticket, which entitles me to a huge screen and a nice surround sound system, I can watch it on my relatively small TV with four speakers doing stereo. The movie theaters should just ignore it and let it die on it's own. Sorry if your TV and sound system sucks. See $8 for a ticket, at least another $8 for popcorn and a coke. Not to mention gas. Get at least 3 people to go in on this and it's actually cheaper than the movies and none of the hassels. My friend has a nice 65 in widscreen HDTV that pretty much gives you the theater feel. Except you don't have to put up with noisy people and the bathrooms are cleaner. | |
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sporkme
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Netcong, NJ
| Re: Price? said by BF69 :[My friend has a nice 65 in widscreen HDTV that pretty much gives you the theater feel. I'll take a 65-foot screen over a 65-inch screen any day.
I've yet to see anything for home use that looks like a theater (well how can it, there's no way to buy something with the same resolution as 70mm film projection) unless you're talking about some insane private screening room. But most people don't have that. | |
| | | | BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| Re: Price? said by sporkme :said by BF69 :[My friend has a nice 65 in widscreen HDTV that pretty much gives you the theater feel. I'll take a 65-foot screen over a 65-inch screen any day. I've yet to see anything for home use that looks like a theater (well how can it, there's no way to buy something with the same resolution as 70mm film projection) unless you're talking about some insane private screening room. But most people don't have that. The theater near me, and that's 20 miles, maybe has 40 foot wide screen in the "big" theater. In the other 4 they're maybe about 25. Most home theater sound systems sound better than the sound system at the theater near me. | |
| | | | matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
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| What a load of crap. I can tell you're a "film purist" that will never believe a better medium could possibly ever exist. Soft edges? Scratches on the film? The possibility of the platter doing a brain wrap in the middle of a film? No thanks. I'll take digital over it any day of the week.
Oh... and in regards to your "65 foot screen over 65-inch screen any day" comment: As Einstein said, everything is relative. Sitting six to eight feet in front of a 65 inch TV is no different than sitting 20 - 30 feet away from a 65 foot screen. In fact, most DECENT home theater systems rival even the best theaters -- and the fact that you don't have to deal with people who won't STFU the entire movie (the kind of people I usually end up winging an entire handful of Skittles at after telling them to be quiet three times) and even you can understand why movie theaters are going under.
EDIT: In fact, as a former movie theater employee, I can tell you that the main problem is the fact that most modern day "parents" think the movie theater is their own personal babysitter. Unfortunately for the rest of us, they neglected to teach their kids proper movie theater etiquette and manners (read: STFU). | |
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| | | | jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Price? Can I pause the movie to go pee and have a smoke outside too? | |
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| Re: Price? Yeah, go ahead, smoke your way to an early grave, what a great reason not to go to the movies. If you keep smoking, you won't need to go pee anymore | |
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nixen
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| Let's see... When it's just me and the wife going to the theatres, two tickets cost $20. If she wants candy and a drink (she always does) and I want a bottle of water, it's another $20. Now, just for fun, lets throw in the cost of getting to and from the theatre. And, depending on where your theatre is, the cost of parking, too..
At $30, same-day streaming would be cheaper than going to the theatre. At $40, you'd be breaking even. Now, make it a movie night with friends and any price in that $30-$40 range is a freaking bargain.
Something like this would be a nightmare for theatres - particularly given that almost all of their real income comes from concessions and not the movie tickets.
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Maxo
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| Re: Price? There is also the consideration of the equipment. I have always considered the price of the movie theater to be the premium for getting a really large screen and nice sound. Even the nicest home systems I have seen cannot match that.
And if you make it IMAX (same price as regular theaters in Tallahassee) then you really just can't beet the quality.
I also never buy popcorn or sodas at a movie theater out of revolt for the wallet-raping. One box of popcorn pays for the cost of the kernels the theater will use all day long.
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| Re: Price? said by Maxo :Even the nicest home systems I have seen cannot match that. Hang out over in AVSForums in their Home Theater construction form and you will see some amazing home theaters. Some are actually relatively affordable to the commoner, some are worth more then my $100k house.
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| | | | | grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | Re: Price? The things you find on the internet... WOW. | |
| | Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
| Sorry your TV and surround system sucks. I prefer mine to any movie theatre I've been too. Since I live in a Single family home, I don't have to worry about neighbors. I think $30's is kind of steep, but would be willing to pay $10-$15 to see the movie at home several weeks after release.
$30's would still be cheaper for me anyway, especially if you count cost of babysitter. | |
| | | nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| Re: Price? said by Ahrenl :Sorry your TV and surround system sucks. I prefer mine to any movie theatre I've been too. Since I live in a Single family home, I don't have to worry about neighbors. I think $30's is kind of steep, but would be willing to pay $10-$15 to see the movie at home several weeks after release. ... I'm with ya all the way - my home theater is good enough that I prefer watching movies at home. A recent trip to the theater while on a business trip just reinforced my opinion.
comcast is dreaming if they think people are going to pay $30-50 to watch a first run movie in their own home. I would be willing to pay $15. | |
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Redwood Valley, CA | Re: Price? Whoa, somebody had a poor outlook on life  | |
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| Re: Price? I hear ya, they can be a pain  I live in a a pretty rural area here in Nortwestern California, Mendocino County, it's 3500 square miles with only 86,000 residents. We have a theater in Ukiah, one in Fort Bragg on the coast and one in Willits.
I can totally relate to buying candy and stuff and bringing it in, during the winter we do that, though during the summer when it's hot it's harder to do lol
OT Are you in the Coast Guard? I'm over near the Coast Guard Station in Fort Bragg somewhat often, we have a station in Ukiah as well (air).
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| I support Comcast.. I support Comcast in this mission. Just yesterday I was talking to my brother about this. It'd be nice to be able to watch movies that get released at home -- I'd even pay $30-$50 dollars.
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| Re: I support Comcast.. said by Rob :I support Comcast in this mission. Just yesterday I was talking to my brother about this. It'd be nice to be able to watch movies that get released at home -- I'd even pay $30-$50 dollars. You're kidding, right? | |
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cableties
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Levittown, PA
| Re: I support Comcast.. I can't tell if he's kidding.
But I hope so.
Seriously, marketing has gotten outta hand. I don't NEED to see a movie. What is the point of contributing to that opening number (and someone's greed)? I can wait for the DVD(HD-DVD/BR) release at Walmart for $9 or Netflix for $1.50(based on return per rental rate subscr). Cheaper than the theater. I have a decent AV setup so that argument is moot. And if I dislike the movie I can sell it for 1/2 on eBay or return it to Netflix.
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| Re: I support Comcast.. If it's coming into my home, then I'd better be able to record it and keep it. I would not pay 40 bucks to stream a video that I can't keep.
They said TV would kill movies, it didn't, they said the VCR would kill movies, they didn't either, and DVD's, same story. Besides, not all of us have the room to have such big affairs. | |
| | | | BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by cableties :I can't tell if he's kidding. But I hope so. Seriously, marketing has gotten outta hand. I don't NEED to see a movie. What is the point of contributing to that opening number (and someone's greed)? I can wait for the DVD(HD-DVD/BR) release at Walmart for $9 or Netflix for $1.50(based on return per rental rate subscr). Cheaper than the theater. I have a decent AV setup so that argument is moot. And if I dislike the movie I can sell it for 1/2 on eBay or return it to Netflix. So what if you can wait. Then go ahead and do that. Why not give those that WANT to see it do so? I don't see what your issue is with this. it' snot like your going to get your choices taken away. | |
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JoeyDee
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Fremont, CA
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| Re: I support Comcast.. said by Rob :said by RR Conductor :I support Comcast in this mission. Just yesterday I was talking to my brother about this. It'd be nice to be able to watch movies that get released at home -- I'd even pay $30-$50 dollars.
You're kidding, right? No - I'm not. ... Am I worried about the movie theatre business? Sure I am, as much as I am worried about the RIAA surviving. I'm all for it. Last time I went to the local theatre, Union Landing here in Fremont, CA, I had to listen to some hostile want-to-be "gangsta" talking on his cell phone during the movie. I spent $20 for tickets and another $12 at the snack bar. And for this I risked going to jail if I bopped this moron.
$30 to watch it on my HDTV is a bargain. My popcorn is better than Century theatre's anyway.
The theatre "experience" is long gone. It left with civility and decorum. | |
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| Re: I support Comcast.. Not all of us live in Fremont (I'm in quiet, peaceful Redwood Valley, about 8 miles north of Ukiah) We go to the theater in Ukiah or Willits, both nice. I also don't think the world is quite as bad as you make it out to be, sure, there's some jerks, but there are a lot of nice people too. Besides, people need more reason to get out in the world, not stay at home.
Edit-Not all of us have HDTV yet either, and even when we do get it, I doubt I will able to afford the sound or the size of screen they have in theaters It's just nice to get out, and I agree, movies are overpriced, but theaters have been expensive for year now, so it's nothing new. | |
| | | | | | fiberguy
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| Re: I support Comcast.. You know what's funny.. and do you know what the beauty of all of this is??
The funny part: it's that people are fighting over what's better; in the theater? or in the home. Yet people are insulting each other in this thread, and people are thinking and talking about their own world, and not the concept in general.
The beauty? is that no one would force you to do either one or the other.
It's great that we live in a country where we are not forced to all live our lives the same way. So, if comcast gets this and you don't like theaters and want it in your home - GREAT! Pick up that remote! And if you like the movie going experience...same thing! Pack up the car, or take yourself, stop by the bank on the way and daily-limit out your card and go for it! Knock yourself out!
It's America!
(I just can't believe the back and forth on this topic.. and to the level at which some people are getting defensive about one way or another.)
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
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| Re: I support Comcast.. said by fiberguy :The funny part: it's that people are fighting over what's better; in the theater? or in the home. ...And if you like the movie going experience...same thing! Pack up the car, or take yourself, stop by the bank on the way and daily-limit out your card and go for it! Knock yourself out! Sounds like you're taking sides on the matter as well. Lets be honest. There are benefits and downsides to both methods. The home experience would only be good if you have an excellent entertainment system or don't care about quality. The theater experience would only be good if the social element doesn't interfere with enjoying the movie (and if the price of admission is justified).
It's good that there will be options, but I'm not all that keen on the "gotta have it now" crowd demanding newly released movies at home on the spot. A little patience and you can buy the DVD or see it on Cable in just a few months. Still if people want to spend $20+ for the privilege to watch a movie at home without the ability to record it and such then more power to those overly eager folks. | |
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join:2005-07-08
Windsor, ON | Magic? What would I do without the "magic" of 8$ popcorn in my life? | |
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
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| I haven't seen the "magic" since 1984. Sorry, but the "magic" went away after Return of the Jedi and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
These days, I prefer to call it what it is, The Greed.
People can afford decent home theater setups that rival the old equipment in the theater.
There is something more "magical" sitting at home where you can watch all the movies you want minus the screaming kids and the cell phone talkers. Plus you can pause the movie and go take a piss without missing anything. | |
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benecewicz
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Parkville, MD
| Re: I haven't seen the "magic" since 1984. said by inteller :Sorry, but the "magic" went away after Return of the Jedi and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Plus you can pause the movie and go take a piss without missing anything. Funny you should say that... those are the last two movies I can remember feeling that 'movie magic' with. And piss without missing anyting? Nuff said.... | |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
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| Maybe if going to the movies wasn't so expensive... Currently going to the movies costs about $10 a ticket plus if you get food that's around $10 for a popcorn/soda combo. So for a familiy of 4, assuming only 2 popcorns/sodas, that comes out to be $60 to go see a flick. That is ridiculous and it makes $30-$50 a movie seem like a bargain. In my area, matinées are $8 which is still pretty expensive. It wasn't long ago when they were about $5 and food was about 2/3 the cost it is now.
Maybe if the theaters didn't charge so much they would be better able to compete and wouldn't have to worry about this.
Also it's not like the theater is any better. When I went to see Spiderman the day it was released, the film already had "worn spots". Until theaters switch to digital projectors, that will be a problem.
Still I think this won't be as bad as they make it out to be. There are still movies that "need to be seen in the theater" (unless you somehow managed to get a 50 foot screen in your house). Also it doesn't mention whether or not Comcast will stream the films in HD or not, but if it isn't it is probably better going to the theater anyway.
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| Techie714
join:2005-08-02
Anaheim, CA
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| What magic? I'm so tired of going to my local theater only to have the Mexican family with there 7 kids screaming & yelling during the movie & then you have the obnoxious white teenagers yapping on the cell phones during the movie. But more importantly theater owners do not want to pony up the money for HD screens. With the current prices of tickets you would think that the theater screens would be FULL 1080p screens with amazing HD surround sound.
I would LOVE to be able to watch a current movie in my living room like Spiderman 3 on my 46" Sharp AQUOS with 5.1 sound system in my living room. Maybe have a few friends over & a BBQ.....GOOD TIMES! I would pay plenty for that experience. | |
| | DJ_Kismuth
join:2001-11-25
Chicago, IL
| Re: What magic? 
First off, no home theater can rival 35mm film projection in a modern theater. Film offers around 4x the resolution of HDTV.
It will be decades before consumers have anything close to true film quality in their living rooms.
Nothing beats film, not yet at least. | |
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| Re: What magic? You're assuming you get the sweet spot and aren't too high, low, right or left. There is nothing great about 4X the resolution and a headache. Plus resolution is relative to screen size and angle of field. To have comparable DPI it would take way more than 4X the resolution to rival a decent size home theater. This is assuming that you would get a 1080P HD version of the movie from the cable or DBS operator. For $30-$50 I would accept nothing less and join your "SD resolution sucks" camp. | |
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| said by DJ_Kismuth : First off, no home theater can rival 35mm film projection in a modern theater. Film offers around 4x the resolution of HDTV. It will be decades before consumers have anything close to true film quality in their living rooms. Nothing beats film, not yet at least. All of what you say about film is true... For the first week. Then you start to get the lovely wear effects. The scratches, the scribbles, the dots. Not to mention the lovely "change reel" blobs and associate flash.
Screw that. Give me digital.
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| karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
Baghdad,IRAQ
| Of course the theaters hate it They make the VAST majority of their 'profit' selling you the extra's. Popcorn, soda, at 10 bucks a person, that's 95% profit for the theater. About 80% of the price of the ticket goes to the movie distributor, theaters don't make much off the tickets themselves.
Having said that, el-cheapo that I am, I would seriously consider paying 30-50 for a 'first day, first run' version, if I got it in HDTV format. My home theater system is as good, if not better quality than the local megamall theater. And I get the extra benefit of NOT having to listen to all the rude people.
What WILL kill this idea? Well, look at it this way. The days of the 'cammer' in the movie theater goes away, and the VERY first showing of the movie will result in the pirates getting a pristine copy, the DAY the movie is released.
So, I predict this will never happen. The fact that a first day, first run movie WILL be digitally hacked and uploaded means the movie STUDIO'S will shoot this idea down.
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| | weedahoe
join:2003-09-14
Duluth, GA
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: Of course the theaters hate it Yeah, the wife and I went out and saw "28 Weeks Later" (which wasnt as good as "28 Days Later" BTW) and a large popcorn was 5.65 and a large drink was 3.80. Needless to say, we didnt get any. I would not mind having the OPTION to get new movie releases at home but like other have said, it is not a neccessity. We have a 1000 watt Onkyo 7.2 surround setup that is totally awesome. The movie theaters here USED to sound like that but have long since tuned all the good acoustics out. BTW, the tickets were 7.50 each is anyone wants to compare anything. | |
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| We also need to keep in mind that the theaters don't make any money of showing the films, thats why prices for food are so high.
You'd think that MPAA would do more to keep the theaters in business because without the theathers the MPAA will loose a lot of eyeballs that are not willing to pay that 30-50 bucks to see a first day release.
I still go to the theathers quite a bit because I love the large screen and the sound system. Additionall, I love it when the entire theater screams, jumps or laughs together, that makes the experience great for me but the teens yapping on the phone and with eachother and the litle ones crying and making other noise and idiots that don't know how to turn off their phones tick me off too.
But to avoid most of that my best friend and I usually catch the first shows of the day. We avoid all the trouble makers by going early so I still enjoy a good theater experience for now. | |
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Theaters Dislike Comcast's Movie Ambitions
. AMC just purchased a chain of theaters from Star theaters around here so they pretty much have the largest layout of places to go. Ticket prices didn't change so we normally go when it's cheaper or we have a free coupon. Hey, I got 5 in my party so I rather go out to eat and spend the same amount for a good meal then go to the movies. 