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The Pirate Bay is apparently working on a YouTube clone for broadband users that the group says will retain the "Pirate Bay mentality." We assume that means the Sweden-based outfit will continue laughing every time a copyright holder sends them a DMCA takedown request that doesn't apply under Swedish law. The eventual home of the project will be at this URL.

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ColorBASIC
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How will they pay for it?

Torrent traffic is paid by the people doing it. How will this YouTube clone work? People still hosting it themselves and just finding each other via VideoBay? If so the MPAA racketeers will simply go after them. If it's hosted by VideoBay how will they pay for all that traffic.
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Re: How will they pay for it?

said by ColorBASIC See Profile :

Torrent traffic is paid by the people doing it. How will this YouTube clone work? People still hosting it themselves and just finding each other via VideoBay? If so the MPAA racketeers will simply go after them. If it's hosted by VideoBay how will they pay for all that traffic.
They are making money hand over fist with the amount of traffic they get , those ads they have generate big bucks for them. And the more they skirt the law and the local **AA brings it to the news the bigger the take for them.
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Re: How will they pay for it?

Interesting Variety read from a while back:

»www.variety.com/article/VR111795···=18&cs=1

en102
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Cool, but...

Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully
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hrmm....

interesting ... might be easier for people to just watch shows on the video bay rather than download them off of torrents

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Re: Cool, but...

said by en102 See Profile :

Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully
How so?

If it's not hosted in the US, then US Copyright law is not enforceable abroad in most cases unless there are already specific treaties and trade agreements in place.

Look at allofmp3.com out of Russia. The ONLY way that site will fall is if Russia's desire to become a part of the WTO or EU or whatever outweighs the grey area of Russian Copyright law.

It will be ultimately up to Sweden and their versions of the MAPP & RIAA if the *.bays (Pirate & Video) will ultimately succeed or fail, not the US, but not for lack of trying on our part...

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said by en102 See Profile :

Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully
I hope not. They are scum and deserve to be in prison.
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Re: Cool, but...

said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

I hope not. They are scum and deserve to be in prison.
Well, many have tried, but SO FAR no one has succeeded, but not from any lack of trying...
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Not knowing why you make this statement, and as I understand it they are doing everything legal in THEIR country, why do you say this?

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Re: Cool, but...

Money. Politics. Or both.

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said by GOLFnSUN See Profile :

said by en102 See Profile :

Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully
I hope not. They are scum and deserve to be in prison.
Why? They aren't violating any laws.

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DEATH TO SCUM! MAY ALL PIRATES PERISH!
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said by en102 See Profile :

Don't expect it to last forever. Someone will end up taking them down eventaully
I'm sure the **IA's will attempt to bribe Swedish lawmakers with enough cash to buy a law to get PirateBay taken out. Or maybe they'll just use their stooges in our Government to pressure Sweden (Like they did with Russia over allofmp3.com).
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Re: Cool, but...

Hate to break it to you, but not every government is as corrupt as ours.

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Re: Cool, but...

said by james See Profile :

Hate to break it to you, but not every government is as corrupt as ours.
True. That means it will cost more....

odreian615

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Great

must have the p0rn

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Re: Great

said by odreian615 See Profile :

must have the p0rn
Look up "youporn" ... its already there.
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thongsai

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different than hosting torrents

i think the reason they won with the torrent thing was that they werent hosting the copyrighted material.. if their new site becomes a youtube, then they do host the files and must remove em for copyright reasons.. correct me if im wrong.

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Re: different than hosting torrents

said by thongsai See Profile :

i think the reason they won with the torrent thing was that they werent hosting the copyrighted material.. if their new site becomes a youtube, then they do host the files and must remove em for copyright reasons.. correct me if im wrong.
I'm thinking a web embedded player that will buffer and play torrents maybe.
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Re: different than hosting torrents

said by dadkins See Profile :

said by thongsai See Profile :

i think the reason they won with the torrent thing was that they werent hosting the copyrighted material.. if their new site becomes a youtube, then they do host the files and must remove em for copyright reasons.. correct me if im wrong.
I'm thinking a web embedded player that will buffer and play torrents maybe.
That would be unusable to those on isp's that throttle/shape certain types of packets.
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for those of you..

who say pirating is evil and blah, probrably are the same people who said homosexuality was a mental disorder back when that was the popular belief, or when people thought blacks didnt have a soul and were only good for slavery, or when the earth was said to be flat... Too many people go with the majority.

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Re: for those of you..

omg..seek help...
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said by zipjay See Profile :

who say pirating is evil and blah, probrably are the same people who said homosexuality was a mental disorder back when that was the popular belief, or when people thought blacks didnt have a soul and were only good for slavery, or when the earth was said to be flat... Too many people go with the majority.
Interesting take deserving of a bit more thought.
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Piracy is not a crime, but homosexuality is a mental disorder. Oh and the world is round.

AlkalineArmy
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Multiple Hosting Points?

People are forgetting that even if it does get taken down in Sweden, they'll probably have alternative hosting in other countries whose copyright laws are even looser than Sweden's. This is what they did with Pirate Bay, so it'd be safe to assume they would do the same with the Video Bay.

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Re: Multiple Hosting Points?

As long as its a country that is not in the world trade organization and never plans on being in, then they can probably get away with it. Otherwise the WTO will block them out or keep fining them, similiar to what happens to china, and still happens today. But china was kept out of the WTO for many years. Their economy is going nuts now that they are in though, those of us holding chinese stocks know what I'm talking about
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Who forgot?

Their DNS host is in sweeden...I.E their address...the physical server location is not in sweeden...just their office s and host...the actual servers are on that island I believe.

AlkalineArmy
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Re: Who forgot?

Well, their servers are currently relocated to the Netherlands with backups planned (possibly implemented?) in Belgium, Russia, and possibly more in the future.

KrK
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U.S. Copyright Imperialism

It's nice to see there's at least a little resistance to the Corporate-lead U.S. Copyright Imperialism. Most countries just cave in on their principles because we threaten them with trade implications.


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Whack-A-Mole

At this point, file sharing is known to the masses. Even if TPB is taken down, there are still dozens upon dozens of other sites to get torrents.

And as those go down, new ones come up. Even with all of the time and resources available, it's a monumental task to get one site out of the way, let alone all of them.
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