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join:2001-11-21
Sarasota, FL
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| Austin? This is great news. I have far too many friends and clients in the Tampa/Bradenton area (on Fios) who keep laughing at my dial up like 6000/768 connection.
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | FIOS fanboys due to arrive any sec now along with ComcasticRick.
On another note, word has it there is going to be an update in June. Hopefully it'll be for the whole home DVR and dual HD's. | |
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Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX
| Re: FIOS said by ninjatutle  :fanboys due to arrive any sec now along with ComcasticRick... ROFL | |
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | Re: FIOS Wow, only took him 4 minutes to show up, after being called out. i think its a record. LOL | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
 ·RoadRunner Cable
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| Re: FIOS I agree.
I think they're currently seeing what's physically possible (w/o signal drops) before they're upping the rate.
It is promising to see early adopters pushing 60-100Mbps sync rate, however, being close to the VRAD is key, and who knows how well it handles a little noise on the line. | |
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Rick
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
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| Re: FIOS said by en102 :I agree. I think they're currently seeing what's physically possible (w/o signal drops) before they're upping the rate. It is promising to see early adopters pushing 60-100Mbps sync rate, however, being close to the VRAD is key, and who knows how well it handles a little noise on the line. While I'll agree that the higher sync rates look promising, as you say, being close to the vrad is the key and it would appear that for those who live a half mile or less should be able to get some pretty decent service along with some room to grow.
I just can't help but to feel however that the service simply remains problematic. Not only are we seeing hours, and in some cases days to install it, but then the sometimes questionable results of intermittent picture quality even on the higher sync rate lines. Personally, I think that is the noise factor coming into play and there simply is no real workaround to that. Copper phone wire is not now, nor will it ever be, the quality of either coaxial cable nor fiber and it simply was not intended to be stretched to the max to carry all these services over it. Multi hi def channels, sdtv..hsi..voip ..seriously..it's amazing to me that it works at all.
Another problem is that where does at&t draw the line of what they will offer? Do they say to some who are close enough to the vrad..OK.we'll create a 20Mb Hsi tier for you? This kind of selective marketing will leave a LOT of their customers alienated. We already see that today with the 768k to 6000k dsl tiers. Their "world delivered" is a world that is very inconsistent in what they can deliver.
But, that's not all. IF they raise the tiers for some, now that will expand into tv offerings as well. Do they NOW say to some, "we can give YOU 2 hdtv streams"..and to someone else.."sorry..you can only get one"?
Again..it's a problem from a service and marketing point of view as well.
And, it's a problem NOT Only from market to market, but within each market as well which leaves the question, what exactly DO you advertise this service to be?
It's VERY hard to advertise it to be a 20Mb HSI service if 80% of the subs in your area can't get it because only 20% are close enough...and again..with hdtv..that problem can carry over to that as well.
In my view, it just all adds up to one quite messy service.
Their rollout has been slow..it's been a disaster on the political and legal front..and the service is shaping up ..AT BEST..to once again..be a service of have's and don't haves. With some getting it..some don't..and multiple tiers of service availability.
They need to just dump this...and go with FTTH.
It's amazing they haven't done so already.
Verizon has it SO right..while AT&T has it so wrong IMO.
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
Premium
join:2002-01-24
Barberton, OH
| said by Rick :said by RIRWIN1983 :Wow, only took him 4 minutes to show up, after being called out. i think its a record. LOL lol. Funny thing is, I had just shown up at BBR too. Anyways, have you all seen what AT&T is now resorting to to sell the service? LOL! Calling current customers asking them if they can have a party at their house to solicit peoples friends. At least the foods on AT&T.  » U-Verse party??Sorry, but things just aren't very good in uverse land right now if this is what they're having to resort to. It is TIME for FTTH !! Hell if i had att and they wanted to have a party here id let em. Free food drinks etc why the hell not. Not like any one would be convinced one way or another.
Years ago one local cable company through a block party not to far from me. Was a big time bash to. Was like when they first rolled out cable to that area. They had soem seriously good food even had steaks (cheap ones but hell who cares) burgers hot dogs chilli ribs etc lots of beer to. It was really quite neat when you think about it a great way to promote yoru product.
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join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL | Re: FIOS IMHO-They should go after the low end to secure their numbers on their side, work out the kinks, and then ramp up the higher end offerings. | |
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join:2007-05-15
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17th Major market launch and they only have TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND customers so far?
[/BQUOTE :The more relevant question is how many homes passed vs these 25,000 customers. | |
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join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | Re: FIOS according to the last conference call, at the end of last qtr they have passed 3 million homes and are marketing to under a million of those. They are currently doing 2000 installs a week with plans to ramp to 10,000 installs a week by year end. | |
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join:2007-05-15
| Re: FIOS said by cwh :according to the last conference call, at the end of last qtr they have passed 3 million homes and are marketing to under a million of those. They are currently doing 2000 installs a week with plans to ramp to 10,000 installs a week by year end. Why aren't they marketing to the other 2 million plus homes they pass? This sounds idiotic. | |
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join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| Re: FIOS could be any number of reasons. Here are some possibilities
-not enough installers
-not enough cpes
-started marketing late in the qtr
-still doing a controlled scale up to make sure everything is working as planned
-vdsl reach is not where it needs to be right now | |
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join:2002-01-17
Dallas, TX
| said by Rick :Captain Comcastic checking in and at your service.  17th Major market launch and they only have TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND customers so far? Oh My.  LOL
Only 8,975,000 customers left to go... I see the glass half full | |
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Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI | VoIP I take it this does not come with VoIP? | |
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Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX
1 edit | Re: VoIP As of right now, there is no U-Verse Voice offering. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: VoIP That's sort of sad.. however, I wonder how well I'd be served if I went
U-verse + DSL + call Vantage ?
I'm not sure why they don't bundle it, other than they still would like to charge $45/month for unlimited vs. $25/month. | |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs: | yay ! Detroit ! How long until they steal the "pedestals" and how long until the first one is full of bullet holes ?
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | Re: yay ! Detroit ! Allready have, allready are. | |
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join:2004-10-12
Las Vegas, NV | Re: yay ! Detroit ! No, I don't believe that he is.  | |
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| | BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
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| Detroit is a hole man.
I remember working there with a 4 car police escort ! At 11 at night , and we still heard gun shots !
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Premium
join:2005-03-10
Callahan, FL
1 edit | said by Jwobot :said by BosstonesOwn :How long until they steal the "pedestals" and how long until the first one is full of bullet holes ? I think you are confusing New Orleans and the other southern cities with Detroit. Most dangerous cities
City Crime rate: violent incidents per 100,000
St. Louis, MO 2,405.5
Detroit, MI 2,357.6
Flint, MI 2,260.2
Camden,NJ 2,096.7
Memphis, TN 1,860.0
Miami Gardens, FL 1,854.3
Orlando, FL 1,807.5
Compton, CA 1,786.9
Springfield, MA 1,774.2
Little Rock, AR 1,771.8
Trenton, NJ 1,770.6
Baltimore, MD 1,754.5
North Charleston, SC 1,724.5
Atlanta, GA 1,674.8
Nashville, TN 1,611.0
Miami, FL 1,579.7
St. Petersburg, FL 1,545.7
Pompano Beach, FL 1,520.7
Stockton, CA 1,491.4
Birmingham, AL 1,470.3
Philadelphia, PA 1,467.1
Kansas City, MO 1,459.2
Minneapolis, MN 1,454.2
Tampa, FL 1,430.5
Oakland, CA 1,420.8
No, he is not. Looks pretty even between northern and southern locations.
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join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI | Re: yay ! Detroit ! Those stats are skewed; there's only 1,000 people actually living in the city of Detroit and half of those are camped-out under the overpasses. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | Re: yay ! Detroit ! Hmmm... I thought Washington D.C. was the worst.
I've been through Detroit, Flint, St. Louis and Buffalo - they're all pretty rough. I used to have Detroit TV stations when I lived in Canada, and there was pretty much a daily shooting to report on the news.
I figured South-Central L.A. would have a spot in there...
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dogtech
Let Us Build It
join:2002-06-08
Toledo, OH | Re: yay ! Detroit ! They will deploy FTTH when Ed leaves | |
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jblues
join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI | Re: yay ! Detroit ! Anyone know what the channel lineup is for Detroit?
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| said by Jwobot :said by BosstonesOwn :How long until they steal the "pedestals" and how long until the first one is full of bullet holes ? I think you are confusing New Orleans and the other southern cities with Detroit. Southerners have better aim and actually steal something instead of value that cabinets full of obsolete telecom equipment. 
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ftthz
If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17 | better than nothing i guess probably have to wait till cable tries something b4 at&t will do something like upgrade speed or just be the all around low cost alt | |
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Cthen
join:2004-08-01
Ypsilanti, MI
·Comcast
| Re: better than nothing i guess said by ftthz :probably have to wait till cable tries something b4 at&t will do something like upgrade speed or just be the all around low cost alt What is even worse is that they laid their fiber 2 years ago and are just now getting around to using it for something besides POTS. I don't see much competition out of them either. | |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
1 edit | Still no UVERSE in FTTP areas There are many FTTP areas in AT&T's footprint, including cities that have UVERSE (FTTN). These areas, while capable of much higher bandwidth than UVERSE FTTN, still don't have access to UVERSE services.
In other words, I have FTTP. The neighborhood across the street will get FTTN/UVERSE, but I won't have access to UVERSE services on my FTTP (brand new neighborhood). This is very short sighted, and I hope AT&T has a "fix" for this soon. They are excluding their customers that have the most potential for high performance.
EDIT: not to mention, in areas with FTTP there is no VRAD necessary...just equipment in the fiber-fed CO. Seems like an easy way to expand their UVERSE footprint with little extra investment! | |
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Endgame
Your member at work
Premium
join:2005-07-07
USA | What about San Jose, CA??? When is San Jose going to get Uverse, never? They haven't even started installing the VRADs here yet. I'm still stuck with 1536/384k DSL here! | |
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bakalao2k
join:2001-03-20
Chicago, IL | What about Chicago? When is U-Verse being deployed in Chicago?
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join:2001-02-21
| Re: What about Chicago? I know that there are VRADs around the Chicago area, and towns have said yes to U-Verse. I have no clue why it's not on the schedule yet. They could be adding Chicago to the schedule in 2008. Even smaller cities are getting it before Chicago! I would've thought that Chicago would've been one of the first, after cities in Texas.
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join:2006-02-24
Austin, TX
| Re: What about Chicago? FTTP can get and has Uverse in some areas. That is how AT&T realized most of the problems were software. At first many thought all the problems were due to improper grounding and bonding of copper cables, but the same problems happened in FTTP areas so they finally isolated to software. I'm not sure if it is the company or regulatory bodies that determine this, but I heard it is only launched FTTP when a certain penetration level has been achieved via FTTN. | |
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dean_machine
@comcast.net | Uverse in MDUs? I see 2 VRAD boxes down my street, will Uverse be available in apartments? Can't wait to ditch Comcast when it launches in Sacramento | |
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BPLSUCKS
join:2006-04-26
Grand Ledge, MI
| Cherry pickers.... U-verse is just serious cherry picking...glad I still am in one of the few verizon towns left in michigan...one red dot among a blue state (except during elections...then its a blue dot but an overall blue state). Btw...if they are installing in detriot just count how many shoes are hanging from their telephone poles...1-2...its an ok area...more then 3 watch your back...8 or more...run like hell... | |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
| Re: Cherry pickers.... said by BPLSUCKS :U-verse is just serious cherry picking...glad I still am in one of the few verizon towns left in michigan...one red dot among a blue state (except during elections...then its a blue dot but an overall blue state). Btw...if they are installing in detriot just count how many shoes are hanging from their telephone poles...1-2...its an ok area...more then 3 watch your back...8 or more...run like hell... I might have to agree. Is deployment dependent on the DSL model (so far from the CO, it wont' work?). I checked some areas around me and a lot have it, I don't. I can't get DSL because of my distant from the CO. I haven't don't much looking so I was just wondering if that applies to u-verse too. | |
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jblues
join:2001-04-28
Allen Park, MI | Re: Cherry pickers.... I can get DSL from AT&T, but not U-Verse here, so I don't think DSL availability is a factor.
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vinnie97
join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | Do the math 25,000 customers divided by 17 markets brings us to 1,741 customers per market. Nonevent much? | |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | Re: Do the math I guess once they settle in then u will see upgrades. | |
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