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Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | Choice Companies don't want you to have it.
I love my Skype BTW. And I do mean love. | |
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join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC | Re: Choice Hmm I like it but I don't think love applies. It saves money, its portable, and I didn't have to change my number when I moved. Downside is that it's more difficult to setup a computer for it than just plugging in a phone. | |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
Premium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA
 ·Cox HSI
 ·Speakeasy
| said by Maxo  :Companies don't want you to have it. I love my Skype BTW. And I do mean love. Euw... Remind me that if I ever have to touch your phone that I should use tongs.
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | go for it i am all for it | |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | I dont see how unlocking phones will help skype So you unlock a phone, if it is a GSM phone you still have to use a GSM carrier. Not much use to Skype.
The Copyright Office already demands cell phone unlocking if a person is not under contract. Seems like a moot point. | |
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inteller
Sociopaths always win.
join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK | Re: I dont see how unlocking phones will help skype yeah, but unlocking a GSM or CDMA phone doesn't help you or Skype in this manner. | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: I dont see how unlocking phones will help skype I agree... it just needs a data plan that doesn't filter or kill TOS.
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
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| Some "locked" phones prevent you from installing third party software (e.g. the Skype client) on them.
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
 ·Verizon FIOS
| said by inteller :The Copyright Office already demands cell phone unlocking if a person is not under contract. Seems like a moot point. I had never heard this before. Why why the Copyright Office even be involved here?
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Mactron
el Camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv | Choice is good I don't see a down side to this.
Go Skype.  | |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
clubs:
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| Where is the complaint? Maybe I am just missing something....but most cell providers charge more for data than for call time, so why would they have a problem with people making skype (data) calls rather than direct?
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join:2001-04-25
Herndon, VA | Re: Where is the complaint? Because there is unlimited data package but there is no unlimited voice package. | |
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Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
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·VoicePulse
| Re: Where is the complaint? said by Foxbat121 :Because there is unlimited data package but there is no unlimited voice package. Are there unlimited data plans, or just plans ADVERTISED as unlimited?
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peter_m
Premium
join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC | Re: Where is the complaint? I pay 7$can for truly unlimited data plan! | |
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Kill DRM
@rr.com
| Re: Where is the complaint? said by peter_m :I pay 7$can for truly unlimited data plan! If you are paying a cellular carrier for a data plan to use skype, why would the phone need to be un-locked ? There must be another issue in here somewhere. | |
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No to ESPN
@sbcglobal.net
| I think Verizon's unlimited data plan is limited to 5GB a month or something like that. This is printed in a small font in a color that is hard to read against the white background in their literature. The logic is that this is a lot of data and if you are pushing more than most likely you are downloading videos or music illegally. This could be an issue is you are using your cell phone or PDA/BlackBerry as a modem to your laptop.
Also a comment to an earlier statement that the FCC requires that phones be unlocked. This is be useful for GSM phones but I wonder what, if any, good it would do for a CDMA phone. | |
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companyplan
| I have an unlimited data plan - 35$/mo. Still less then my $300/mo cell phone bill.. for our company minutes.. | |
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Fobulous
Premium
join:2002-08-14
Sugar Land, TX | skype rules! I love my skype as well!! | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | voip wirless breaks the wireless tax piggy bank, film at 11 VOIP wireless will do for cell phones what voip has done for landlines. Kill the piggy bank taxes, fees, and surcharges. | |
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| Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL | Re: voip wirless breaks the wireless tax piggy bank, film at 11 Skype wants to get on the i-phone and it may take the FCC to force it to be fully unlocked. At&T and other carriers like to lock down phones and force you to buy apps and games useing there store with high prices. | |
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dispatcher21
join:2004-01-22
Walla Walla, WA
·Packet8
| Re: voip wirless breaks the wireless tax piggy bank, film at 11 If skype wants to be on a phone, maybe they should invest in their own phone instead of bumming off of someone elses phone and expenditure of money. You can already install skype on most WM5 devices so I dont see what they are complaining about. If they dont like how the cell companies run things, build your own network and compete. | |
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Lumberjack
Premium
join:2003-01-18
Newport News, VA
·Cox HSI
| Let carriers be carriers.... To me an ideal situation would have carriers handle the data connectivity layer and service providers offer services that can make use of that data connection. There's no reason a carrier can't also be a service provider either.
I would love to be able to pay Verizon for instance a montly fee to give me FiOS and mobile broadband access but nothing more. All I want is an IP address (DHCP, you get the picture) and bandwidth. Then on top of that I can go to whatever service provider I want for content, VoIP, TV, etc... But as above it may be that it's in my best intrest to pay for Verizon as a service provider for my home VoIP. The thing is that choice should be up to me.
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stufried
Premium
join:2003-10-13
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| Companies Who Live in Glass Towers Shouldn't Hurdle Projecti While I'd love to be able to do VOIP off my unlimited data plan, but I find it humerous that Skype is pushing open access. Skype's protocol is completely locked down and is a closed shop. You can't go SIP => Skype or IAX => or vice versa. Other than meeting out on the PSTN world, there really is no bridge. | |
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Michieru
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
·Speakeasy
| ? Why should we tell the carriers what they should or should not run on their networks?
Skype is throwing a curb ball by saying they should open up wireless networks so they can sell their own products on someone else's network and at a fraction of the cost.
Kind of like strangler fig tree's they grow off from a host but later strangle their host, and eventually kill them off entirely.
Let Skype invest in their own network just like MetroPCS invested in their own network. Every time someone wants to piggy back and yell out "no competition" is lying to everyone towards their true intentions.
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hitman_001
Premium
join:2006-11-20
Laredo, TX
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| Doesnt make a whole lot of sense.. Skype wants to compete with these carriers via voip, and wants them to allow them access to their bandwidth to do so? While that may sound good from a consumer perspective, It just doesnt make any kind of business sense.
It would almost be something like this. Two doughnut shops, one on main street in a big city, one on the outskirt of town on some dirt road. The dirt road doughnut shop sells doughnuts for 50 cents, while the one on main street sells them for one dollar. So the dirt road doughnut shop tries to get the govt to force the main street shop to sell the dirt road doughnuts at their store for 50 cents, eliminating any profit the main street store would make. Make any sense to you? It didnt me either, and thats pretty much how I feel about the Skype issue.
I sure do want a doughnut now though..
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sonic7
join:2007-06-06
Las Vegas, NV
| screw verizon and the rest of them I think that a lot of you all are missing the concept here. Most these phones have the ability to use Bluetooth or WiFi why don't they just step off and let us use them to their full potential instead of crippling them. I am sick of having two phones and a Skype set up at my computer. To pay over $200 between 2 Verizon phones and my internet connection is ludicrous when they are so restrictive and provide absolutely no content whatsoever they are just transfering speech, text, data, etc.. At home I want to use my cable modem which has unlimited use. Away from home I will use Verizon's network, but I want to do it through the same device. | |
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Kill DRM
@rr.com
| Re: screw verizon and the rest of them said by sonic7 : Most these phones have the ability to use... WiFi ... Ding ding ding ! If that is true then this story makes a lot more sense ! If there is no balance due on the account and the contract has been satisfied, they should be no problem un-locking the phone. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | Die leeches die. There is no free lunch. Why don't the leeches build the towers and open them up to leeches? Oh that's right leeches only leech.
Stupid people are the reason there is spam. Ask your mother. | |
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GoodyearMark
Premium
join:2001-05-02
Goodyear, AZ
·Cox HSI
| Re: Die leeches die. said by batterup :Stupid people are the reason there is spam. Ask your mother. +1
Stupid people are the reason we have so many ridiculous laws too.
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| Skype = Pot, Mobile Carriers = Kettle Skype might start by setting a good example:
Skype is proprietary VoIP. No SIP or IAX interoperability except via the PSTN or special hardware & software interfaces.
Skype (sometimes) uses customer resources to route third parties' calls, without compensating the customer or the customer's carrier.
There is no such thing as free love, flower children of the 21st century. Somebody's paying for it.
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join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
| Re: Skype = Pot, Mobile Carriers = Kettle said by ArgMeMatey :Skype might start by setting a good example: Skype is proprietary VoIP. No SIP or IAX interoperability except via the PSTN or special hardware & software interfaces. Skype (sometimes) uses customer resources to route third parties' calls, without compensating the customer or the customer's carrier. There is no such thing as free love, flower children of the 21st century. Somebody's paying for it. you can set a registry key so that skype won't steal your bandwith | |
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ArgMeMatey
join:2001-08-09
Milwaukee, WI
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: Skype = Pot, Mobile Carriers = Kettle said by st7860 :you can set a registry key so that skype won't steal your bandwith Yes, but the default model is the issue. Although it's probably explained in the terms, this "feature" is not clear to a lot of users. | |
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join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
| Re: Skype = Pot, Mobile Carriers = Kettle said by ArgMeMatey :said by st7860 :you can set a registry key so that skype won't steal your bandwith Yes, but the default model is the issue. Although it's probably explained in the terms, this "feature" is not clear to a lot of users. I suppose you're right. and even *if* you turn it off, skype will still have low speed connections to 40 to 80 IP's doing god knows what. this still applies even if there's no supernode activity. | |
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Skype: Open Networks, Unlock Phones
