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BART Wi-Fi Test
If successful, larger network coming...
by Karl Bode Monday 11-Jun-2007 tags: wireless · alternatives
The Contra Costa Times explores how Wi-Fi service has been live on BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) for several weeks now, but locals are just noticing. Wi-Fi Rail is offering service for free while they engage in a $2 million dollar test of the system. If that goes well, a $55 million network will be built over the next several years, after which the company will offer commuter Wi-Fi for $10 per day, $30 per month or $300 per year.

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ftthz
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a tad expensive

might as well go for the per an hour rate because most people i don;t have a commute that is over 4 hours a day hopefully ...

DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
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Santa Rosa, CA
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Re: a tad expensive

This is just silly. $55 MILLION to build the network, 300,000 users required just to break even. What do they think WiFi is, magic pixie dust??

-Dane

DrewCapu
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join:2001-12-19
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If I were still commuting via BART

I'd much rather nap than spend more money on something that might as well wait til I get to work/home.

Casual carpool > *

ninjatutle
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No thanks

BART (Big #@# Rat Tunnel) is not a place where I would plop open my laptop and surf away. Ton's of people have been jacked for eyepods and there is no security at the stations or on board.

Mactron
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Re: No thanks

said by ninjatutle:

BART (Big #@# Rat Tunnel) is not a place where I would plop open my laptop and surf away. Ton's of people have been jacked for eyepods and there is no security at the stations or on board.
WoW BART and the SF area has apparently changed. Bart was Great when I stationed up there decades ago. To bad.
Back on topic... the Price is a little stiff.
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ninjatutle
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Re: No thanks

Well, they have high WIFI prices to match their high ticket prices.

RR Conductor
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NinjaTurtle is down on EVERYTHING, I would take his musings with a grain of salt, especially on transit related issues

ninjatutle
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Re: No thanks

Yes, bay area transit stinks.

10414459

join:2007-04-23
Key West, FL
Exactly! We flew into Oakland a few weeks ago and took Air Bart to the Coliseum so as to board Bart into San Francisco. The Coliseum station was full of hustlers asking for money and just waiting to grab either my wallet or my laptop. There is no security on Bart, the Bart police are worthless.

Only a fool would use their computer while riding Bart. As for Oakland, let it sink slowly into its own sewer and die. I will never again fly into Oakland, what a disgusting city.

dbennett1106

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Ukiah, CA

Re: No thanks

I don't live in the East Bay, and I couldn't agree with you MORE!!

nightdesigns
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Not sure how widly it would be used.

I've commuted on the Bart and one of the really nice things about it is that a lot of the routes you don't get Cell Phone reception. It was the only time during the day that it was quiet, no laptops, no phones, just people reading the paper. It was a nice change and I hope it stays that way and it seemed like the other people were in the same boat.
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montana3087
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Why so long?

Why would it take several years to complete? It's not like they are connecting up a city. Along with the other stuff, something smells with this deal.
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koitsu
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Re: Why so long?

Not to mention, completely overpriced for how long most people are on BART. This project is a failure unless they offer it for free.
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pike
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Washington, DC
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Cleveland considering this as well

The Greater Cleveland RTA is considering adding Wi-Fi to their heavy rail system as they look for ways to monitor the security cameras that will be installed in the next 12 months.

-Mike
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eco
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Wilmington, DE

...

Who in their right mind would pay what is essentially the same price for their home internet for something they'll use maybe 2 hours a day tops. BART is not like Amtrak, it's basically a glorified subway, it doesn't go very far.

Now $10 dollars a month is something I can maybe see people paying. I also don't understand how it's costing them $55 million dollars a year.

g0nepostal
I Am The One Her Mom Warned Her About

join:2001-03-23
Burlingame, CA

BART sucks anyway

As a way of avoiding having to commute to downtown Oakland or San Francisco from either the East Bay or the Southern Peninsula, BART is ok. But on the whole, it sucks - it is badly maintained, has all kinds of people trying to panhandle or hustle you, and costs too much.

Having said that, I can see the use of Wi-Fi for certain users of BART - like the ones who commute from the Dublin/Pleasanton station all the way to downtown San Francisco. From what I understand, that's over an hour each way, or better than two hours a day. That's a lot of time to waste. So why not get some work done on an palm computer with Wi-Fi enabled?

Having said that, if BART is smart they will simply have the company offer the service for free or just add a dime to the ticket cost to cover the service. That way they'll get more riders on board.

gp

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Re: BART sucks anyway

Really? Everytime I ride it it is very well maintained and ran.

g0nepostal
I Am The One Her Mom Warned Her About

join:2001-03-23
Burlingame, CA

Re: BART sucks anyway

Would that I have had the same experience. Most of the trains I get on are dirty and don't smell very good.

gp

ztmike
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Michigan City, IN

wow.

$10 per day? What the hell are they smoking? and 30 per month? Hell you can get dsl at home probably twice the speed of their wifi for about 30 per month or even less maybe.

Subaru
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Greenwich, CT

Re: wow.

said by ztmike:

$10 per day? What the hell are they smoking? and 30 per month? Hell you can get dsl at home probably twice the speed of their wifi for about 30 per month or even less maybe.
took the words right from my mouth lol.

Micah

@berkeley.edu

Wow.....

So I'm gonna pay $8 a day to ride the bart and then another $10 for wifi? Their stupid a$$es need to include the wifi in with the ridiculous price of riding bart. Not to mention the fact that when most users get on the bart, all of the seats are already taken.

Wake up BART people !
john_in_vallejo

join:2001-09-08
Vallejo, CA

BART's Competitor provides wifi for free

BART thinks people will pay high prices for the service, while one of their competitors (AC Transit transbay buses) provides it for no extra charge.

»www.actransit.org/news/articlede···5513eeb6

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