dslreports logo
Verizon CEO: 100Mbps Is Just The Beginning
If you build it, they will come....

Today, 100Mbps is just the beginning
Ivan Seidenburg
Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg gave his keynote speech at the NXTComm show yesterday, using his time on stage to brush aside the iPhone, while once again assuring attendees that his company's pricey fiber deployment plan was going to pay off in spades. Recall that Apple came to Verizon first as a distribution partner for the phone, but the telco says Apple wanted an arm and a leg for the partnership.


"Today, 100Mbps is just the beginning," insists the CEO, whose company just deployed service to their millionth FiOS customer. "Whenever I visit [Google CEO Eric Schmidt] and others, we're convinced that there will be a need for more bandwidth," Seidenberg said. "The quicker we get it out there, the quicker people will create applications for it."

The company says that while they currently offer 50Mbps, 100Mbps is being tested, and GPON network upgrades will ultimately allow them to offer even faster speeds -- though holding your breath for 100Mbps+ connectivity from either your phone or cable company probably isn't in your best interest.
view:
topics flat nest 
page: 1 · 2 · next

Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium Member
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1

Anonymous_

Premium Member

All talk

wow when i will beable to get this kind of speed 50 years from now?
BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA

BosstonesOwn

Member

Re: All talk

Couple of years apparently if your lucky enough to have FIOS.
PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

PDXPLT

Member

Re: All talk

Yea, I'm more interested in when he'll be willing to sell me (and millions of other Verizon customers) just one Mbps. We'd pay alot for it, too.

xyar
Premium Member
join:2001-06-21
Portland, OR

xyar

Premium Member

Re: All talk

Why just one? DSL alone is 1.5 mbps and up, why just one?
PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

PDXPLT

Member

Re: All talk

I wanted to make it easy on him. Heck, I'd take 768K. I'd give him $80/month for it. It's alot better than the high-latency satellite service I now get for that amount.

xyar
Premium Member
join:2001-06-21
Portland, OR

xyar

Premium Member

Re: All talk

Ugh, satellite. I have friends and customers outside of Forest Grove and Gaston on the hill that have satellite and I can't handle it, I'll take dial-up over satellite. Best of wishes on getting DSL, cable or FIOS !!! Microwave is, however, readily available in the rural parts of Washington County ........
PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

PDXPLT

Member

Re: All talk

said by xyar:

Microwave is, however, readily available in the rural parts of Washington County ........
I had Wi-Fi NW come out; there are trees between me and their Banks tower, and at 2.4 GHz, that's a no-go.

Maybe if FCC Chair Martin ever decides to stop kissing hte broadcasters' you-know-whats, and let WISPs use vacant TV channels, I might get a WISP signal. 600 MHz goes right trough foliage.

xyar
Premium Member
join:2001-06-21
Portland, OR

xyar

Premium Member

Re: All talk

That sucks. Yeah they're all in bed with each other, whoever has the most moolah. What about Whiz.To / Coho net? They have several towers too, maybe too far away. There's always hope.
xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL

xsiddalx to Anonymous_

Member

to Anonymous_

Re: All talk - NAH

said by Anonymous_:

wow when i will beable to get this kind of speed 50 years from now?
It's coming. However, it will be in the form of "Video".

The deployment isn't about what we currently consider the Internet, it is about building the local infrastructure to deliver high speed "services" within the local network. Internet speeds will grow, but the long term goal isn't about the internet, it is about content distribution that VZ can monetize in some manner.

cableties
Premium Member
join:2005-01-27

cableties

Premium Member

I'd pay

a dollar per Megabit ($10/10Mbs...$20/20Mbs..) per month.

I think that is a fair amount.

XBL2009
------
join:2001-01-03
Chicago, IL

XBL2009

Member

100mbps

At least Verizon is making the effort compare with AT&T which is dragging their feet. ADSL2+ or VDSL is going to be short lived or a long painful experience for AT&T customers.
gamepro100
join:2004-07-27
Brooklyn, NY

gamepro100

Member

Re: 100mbps

Seidenberg is really going to make a name for himself when all this is over with. He and will probably be considered among the greats in the Bell industry for helping pioneer fiber to peoples homes.
xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL

xsiddalx

Member

Re: 100mbps

said by gamepro100:

Seidenberg is really going to make a name for himself when all this is over with. He and will probably be considered among the greats in the Bell industry for helping pioneer fiber to peoples homes.
Nah Ray Smith had more vision, but it was all talk. I suspect he knew he was passing on the torch to Ivan (as well as receiving a nice check to go away).

»www.wired.com/wired/arch ··· ith.html

A link from "back in the day".
Kearnstd
Space Elf
Premium Member
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

1 recommendation

Kearnstd to XBL2009

Premium Member

to XBL2009
sadly among investors hes gunna be called one of the worst in the bell industry because he invested a ton of money in fiber rather then whatever gave the highest return by the next quarter.
Ahrenl
join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

Ahrenl

Member

Re: 100mbps

Unless they make money hand over fist while AT&T is upgrading their infrastructure again.

Unfortunately, since the two don't compete at all, it's really up to Verizon's other competitors (cablecos) to eat AT&T's lunch. Haven't seen any real signs of that happening, and as Verizon is more successful, they will only be weakening the capex RE base available to the competitors of AT&T.
PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR

PDXPLT to Kearnstd

Member

to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd:

sadly among investors hes gunna be called one of the worst in the bell industry because he invested a ton of money in fiber rather then whatever gave the highest return by the next quarter.
Well, among the Wall Street investment analyst community, anyway. But their #1 job is to generate churn (and thus commissions for their employers). So they always criticize long-term investments.
Josimars
join:2001-04-24
Port Chester, NY

1 edit

Josimars

Member

Re: 100mbps

Yes I agree they should always generate churn for their employers but they don't run companies. I have gradually sold off my ATT stock and bought Verizon. I did the same thing with Toyota when Wall ST analysts were touting GM and Chrysler I sold their stock and bought Toyota and geez I was so right. ATT is going to eat crow in the next couple of years.
Cyber2lz
join:2001-11-15
Odessa, FL

Cyber2lz

Member

While

my FiOS connection beats my RR connection for reliability, consistency and stability, I think Ivan should fix the back office operations. They are still old school telco. Every part of their ops, except the FSC in TX, still SUCK. The techs in the field are great, BTW.
Just a thought,

dadkins
Can you do Blu?
MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA

dadkins

MVM

100mbps?

Ok, 100mbps DOWN - 10mbps up?

Let me knw when you open that shit up to where it should be... like BOTH WAYS!

VZFluff
@rcn.com

1 recommendation

VZFluff

Anon

Re: 100mbps?

100MBPS from VZ is fluff. Nothing less. Verizon is afraid of losing the Googlers and a huge marketplace.

As living in the CITY in New York, Verizon has no plans #1 to enter this marketplace anytime soon. So Seidenberg is all talk unless he brought his FIBER to MDUs in NYC such as where I am, but alas that is not happening, and there ARE NO PLANS FOR IT.

#2 we are a big MDU with lots of fiber assets so other carriers are available by buildingwide contract including Shore Group and MDU Communications and RCN and others

#3 Verizon does NOT want symmetrical broadband because that would mean power to the people something that is against Verizon's own model. Open access means a loss of power and wealth and domination, something that has been Verizon's MO from day one. The only way to achieve this IMHO is municipal fiber optics from coast to coast or wireless access from other players.

nycdave
MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY

1 recommendation

nycdave

MVM

Re: 100mbps?

Wow, AJ strikes again!!

HaveFiOS
@mpeainet.com

HaveFiOS to VZFluff

Anon

to VZFluff
Don't know where you live, but I live in NYC and I already have FiOS. 20 down and 5 up and that's solid.

nfixit2004
Premium Member
join:2004-01-06
Brooklyn, NY

nfixit2004

Premium Member

Re: 100mbps?

any suburban area is not considered NYC the city is just that! more street than side walk, a bus stop/deli on every corner and a train station on every other corner.

I live in Brooklyn(the city) there are places in Brooklyn that you can not consider the city, and yes they have FIOS and I dont! verizon is not even talking about when they plan on bringing FIOS in to the CITY AREAS OF NY(maybe it just cost too much for them, I dont know) but Iam getting tired/ extremely jelous of hearing about FIOS knowing I probably will not see it in the next 5 maybe 10 years(unless I move, and I dont want it that bad)
CopperMux
join:2005-01-18

CopperMux

Member

Re: 100mbps?

Actually, the upper east side, both East Harlem and the rich areas have FIOS available, more everyday.

That city enough?

batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium Member
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

batterup

Premium Member

Re: 100mbps?

said by CopperMux:

Actually, the upper east side, both East Harlem and the rich areas have FIOS available, more everyday.

Are you comparing Harlem to the Upper East Side? Are you comparing New York County to any other place in the land of the once free? Give me a break. I walk up 7th Ave. from 34th Street Penn Station to 42ed Street Times Square every Sunday the Amaizings have a home game to catch the number 7 to Shay. It is a short walk as south to north the blocks are short. I can barely move because of all the people gawking at the BIG buildings and the flashing lights. Not an easy place to install an entirely new network.

FiOS is in its infancy. For it to grow in must be deployed as cheaply as possible to as many people that will appreciate the best network the world has ever seen. You must know about the boards that control the co-ops. They would not let the likes of John Lennon and Barbara Streisand move into their hallowed halls. New York, New York, New York is an odd place, big money but at times bigger costs.

I call your attention to the fact that Victory Gardens NJ has FiOS. Does that have anything to do with New Jersey having a state wide TV franchise law have anything to do with that ( 6% of Verizon’s profit goes to the towns)? I dunnno.

nfixit2004
Premium Member
join:2004-01-06
Brooklyn, NY

nfixit2004 to CopperMux

Premium Member

to CopperMux
Are you serious? once you said "rich areas" you have excluded what Iam talking about! the rich has power(money) to make anything happen including FIOS implemented in a area where verizon did not plan to setup in years!

also did you say upper east side? you have to be kidding! I mean "working people" not the ones who people work for!
Gogo1
join:2004-05-27
Brooklyn, NY

Gogo1 to VZFluff

Member

to VZFluff
AJcrazy,

1. Turn off internet.
2. Go outside.
3. Be less angry.
4. Enjoy.

VZFluff
@rcn.com

1 recommendation

VZFluff

Anon

Re: 100mbps?

I aint the only one who agrees with this statement. Moving around data should be a commodity. Many people agree with me on this.

b: I am not angry. Just pointing out how biased this Seidenberg puff piece was. Dr. Schmidt believes in open and transparent business. In fact, Mayor Bloomberg who just changed parties was at the Googleplex to speak with Sheryl Sandberg.

So where is the true text of Ivan Seidenberg AND Dr. Schmidt's conversation? Yes everything but the proprietary issues are open. But there has been NO HONEST AND OPEN DEBATE BY IVAN SEIDENBERG. I heard Seidenberg before speak on Charlie Rose, but that was about it.

Honest and Open dialog business is what is succeeding right now. Where is Ivan Seidenberg in this debate? AWOL!
CopperMux
join:2005-01-18

CopperMux to VZFluff

Member

to VZFluff
AJ, seriously, why the obsession? We all know by now you are in an MDU and your location would like FIOS. VZ has deployed FIOS to MDU's both in NYC and around the country. Your statement is incorrect. Rewiring the entire company served area with state of the art service takes a bit of time. Rest assured, it will get to you.
KenAF
join:2006-01-23
Arlington, VA

4 edits

KenAF to VZFluff

Member

to VZFluff
Here's what I get now from Verizon for $50/mo ($55 - $5 bundle discount).



I see the same throughput 24/7. For a few weeks, Verizon upgraded me to 50Mbps as a beta test, but they've since dropped me back down to "only" 30Mbps.

You would be surprised at the number of sites that support 30Mbps and faster speeds. Of course, most of the smaller web sites don't, but many of the larger sites do. I was able to download trailers from the Apple.com site at a sustained 6+ MEGABYTES per second.
GPSrob
join:2007-05-21

GPSrob

Member

Re: 100mbps?

said by KenAF:

Here's what I get now from Verizon for $50/mo ($55 - $5 bundle discount).

First of all, that speed just makes me cry. My download rate is half of your upload :-(. I'm insanely jealous. You must be everyone's favorite BT peer. That being said...
said by KenAF:

...
I was able to download trailers from the Apple.com site at a sustained 6+ MEGABYTES per second.
How do you get 6MBps (48mbps) through a 30mbps (3.75MBps) pipe?

And just to keep things in perspective... Your little beta thing gave you more than a DS-3's worth of bandwidth at less than 1% of the cost. Unbelievably phenomenal. I can't wait to see what the connectivity landscape looks like in another 5-10 years.

••••

xyar
Premium Member
join:2001-06-21
Portland, OR

xyar to VZFluff

Premium Member

to VZFluff
Power to the people!?! What are you, 12 years old taking your first government class??? Stuck in some time warp? Verizon, as most corporations, don't give a flying F$#@ about any of that BS as long as they can turn a profit and protect their interests. They don't care about 'loss of power' or oppression or any other nonsense. Ivan is responsible to his shareholders and that's it. This whole project as a whole could turn out to be a blunder of immense proportions, ruining many careers, if they don't get their full ROI and this doesn't succeed, but if it succeeds then it could really put into motion the "future" as they always call it. Somebody had to stick their ass out and do it, might as well be someone with enough capital to back it up and do it all the way (unlike so many of these municipal projects that go bankrupt, as idealistic as they may be).

I get FIOS installed next week in our new house and can't wait for my 15/2. Maybe you should move out of the city? The suburbs aren't as bad as you think..... We actually have back yards with grass...... Helps people think more clearly.....

••••
xsiddalx
join:2005-03-11
Chicago, IL

xsiddalx to VZFluff

Member

to VZFluff
said by VZFluff :

100MBPS from VZ is fluff. Nothing less. Verizon is afraid of losing the Googlers and a huge marketplace.
??? What are Googlers?
said by VZFluff :

As living in the CITY in New York, Verizon has no plans #1 to enter this marketplace anytime soon. So Seidenberg is all talk unless he brought his FIBER to MDUs in NYC such as where I am, but alas that is not happening, and there ARE NO PLANS FOR IT.
Do you have a story to tell? Maybe your MDU is the problem?
said by VZFluff :

#2 we are a big MDU with lots of fiber assets so other carriers are available by buildingwide contract including Shore Group and MDU Communications and RCN and others
I guess I should clarify, MDU means multi dwelling unit and
not some corporate MDU Communications thing. It sound more like your MDU is attempting to be a CLEC. If you have fiber assets, unlike most of us on BBR, why do you need VZ? The whole point of overbuilding is to avoid the incumbent!!
said by VZFluff :

#3 Verizon does NOT want symmetrical broadband because that would mean power to the people something that is against Verizon's own model. Open access means a loss of power and wealth and domination, something that has been Verizon's MO from day one. The only way to achieve this IMHO is municipal fiber optics from coast to coast or wireless access from other players.
Nah..it's a little technology-oriented (easy enough to dig around the net to determine the reason for DSL and ISDN). Do you have any substantiation otherwise?

How will government, prevent "loss of power" when citizens are using their networks? If the Gov needed T for help, imagine what they do on their own. A gov regulated monopoly seems likea godsend in comparison.

You must trust your government more than private/regulated industry. Seems circular and silly to me. I don't get it.

I prefer the ideals of our founding fathers...

batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium Member
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

batterup to dadkins

Premium Member

to dadkins
said by dadkins:

Ok, 100mbps DOWN - 10mbps up?

Let me knw when you open that shit up to where it should be... like BOTH WAYS!
You must upload allot of porn.

Mactron
el Camino Real
Premium Member
join:2001-12-16
PRK

1 recommendation

Mactron

Premium Member

Sign me up...

Wow very cool. Sign me up now !..
Well maybe in...2 5 10 , if ever years?

draven

join:2002-02-20
my bunker

draven

Looking forward to this...

My Verizon service has been nothing but rock solid. On the 15/2 package, I test at ... ... and it's usually even higher.

If Verizon successfully deploys their speed upgrades and FIOS TV 2.0 by the end of the Fall, I don't think there's a bad thing you can say about them from a pure delivering on promises standpoint.

•••••
freebird152
join:2006-10-06
Dinuba, CA

2 edits

freebird152

Member

Now all we need is dsl.

Wow 100mbps, thats great, except I can't even get dsl yet. Whoops... (or cable for that matter...bastards!)

vz sux
@maintech1.com

vz sux

Anon

vz sux

how about make FIOS available to all your region before talk about faster speed? What's the point if only limited and exclusive people get it?
moonpuppy (banned)
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

moonpuppy (banned)

Member

And the real question is......

.....how much is this going to cost us?
dariena
join:2005-04-24
Germantown, MD

dariena

Member

Re: And the real question is......

I love my 15/2 I just wish locally we had that awesome deal on the 30mbps service that I've seen whispers over being offered only in highly competitive markets.

I've heard in certain places it's not THAT much more expensive than the 15mbps service... I'd jump on that deal if it was offered locally.. Come on Comcrap get more competitive!

I did receive a mailer yesterday that say Comcast is offering an 8mbps service in our area now...

kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Annapolis, MD

kyler13

Member

Shocker

"Recall that Apple came to Verizon first as a distribution partner for the phone, but the telco says Apple wanted an arm and a leg for the partnership."

What a coincidence. Apple wants an arm and a leg for the phone, too.

As for 100Mbps... That's nice, but I don't need it. I'd rather utilize that fiber bandwidth for 300+ HD channels (that I'll probably never watch). If they start offering 100Mbps down, can I keep my 15Mbps down for like $10/month?

StevenB
Premium Member
join:2000-10-27
New York, NY

StevenB

Premium Member

Its just words

Until FIOS is more deployed across the country, i see it as being just a toy for a select few.

if his speech was, FIOS is gonna be hard pressing the MDU market and make it the goal, i'll be interested.

jlanci
join:2005-08-30
Staten Island, NY

jlanci

Member

minority report

I want 100/100 then maybe we will see speeds similar to what they had on minority report.

PS. Those transparent monitors were hot !!
WirelessMajr
Premium Member
join:2005-08-03
College Place, WA

WirelessMajr

Premium Member

I'd be happy

I'd be happy to see a 100Mbps package. With the right wireless equipment and proper QOS management, one could resell that to their neighbors @ 2Mbit/256 for $15 or so.
neftv
join:2000-10-01
Broomall, PA

neftv

Member

250megs

My understanding is the present fios infrastructure is capable of 250megs of total bandwidth to each household to service phone, TV and internet. So I could see 100meg internet becoming a reality. The question I have can the upstream backbones or server providers handle that capacity or is this only bandwidth capacity between Verizon fios peers.

kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Annapolis, MD

kyler13

Member

Re: 250megs

TV is on it's own wavelength. For data, you're either BPON (655Mbps) or GPON (2.4Gbps). Theoretically you could get the max, if Verizon chose to ignore proper bandwidth management with the other 31 subscribers on your splitter. 100Mbps is reasonable if sharing over GPON, not BPON. I can't imagine anything out there that would enable you to take advantage of such speeds. Some people have a hard enough time getting 50Mbps on the test servers. I like the guy on here that suggests re-selling slices of bandwidth to your neighbors.
bmn
? ? ?

join:2001-03-15
hiatus

bmn

It should have been Verizon that bought Bellsouth...

NOT ATT... With this, it sounds like most of the country is going to be left behind in the broadband stone ages, whereas all of the people lucky enough to have Verizon as an ILEC will actually have a next generation network that actually delivers speeds that puts them on par with other providers around the world...

AnonymousCoward
@stxcadware.com

AnonymousCoward

Anon

Re: It should have been Verizon that bought Bellsouth...

You could just do what I did, look for new houses being built in pre-fiber wired neighborhoods. Sell ye-ole shack tethered to copper and buy in on the fiber train.

Besides, there's no torn up sidewalks, yards, or outages because the verizon tech accidentally hosed your splice upstream whilst bringing a new neighbor into the network!

Mactron
el Camino Real
Premium Member
join:2001-12-16
PRK

Mactron to bmn

Premium Member

to bmn
said by bmn:

whereas all of the people lucky enough to have Verizon as an ILEC will actually have a next generation network that actually delivers speeds that puts them on par with other providers around the world...
Your not a Verizon customer are you?

Maybe your right, IF you live in a "Profitable" portion of Verizon's foot print. Fios here in...2. 5, 10, 20, years?.. Sigh, probably never.

alchav
join:2002-05-17
Saint George, UT

alchav

Member

Verizon is sitting Pretty!

They were the first to bring FTTH, and their only problem is finding applications to fill this big pipe. While all eyes are on AT&T on their struggles to squeeze HDTV on Copper Twisted Pairs, Verizon is sitting back and wondering what other Digital Products they can sell and Pipe into you. Yes, I would rather be Verizon!

techlte
join:2003-01-01
US

techlte

Member

I just want FiOS.

I'll take FTTH in any form or speed over 15Mbps.. anything to drop Comcrap.

ukreader
@bulldogdsl.com

ukreader

Anon

100 Mbs Fios

In Paris France Telecom are already commercially deploying GPON in competition with several companies 100Mb down 10Mb up basic cable and unlimited landline calls in france are €45 a month (abiout $60 us), so what Ivan is saying isn't that far off the mark.

brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brewster, NY

brooklynman4

Member

Re: 100 Mbs Fios

You gotta remember the verizon name or company came from eroupe so its not that hard.

TedNaginhoffer
@verizon.net

TedNaginhoffer

Anon

Re: 100 Mbs Fios

said by brooklynman4:

You gotta remember the verizon name or company came from eroupe so its not that hard.
Incorrect. Verizon Communications formed due to the merger of NYNEX and Bell Atlantic (as well as assets of the former GTE). Verizon WIRELESS is owned by both Verizon COMMUNICATIONS and Vodafone (a European company).

batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium Member
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ

batterup

Premium Member

This is only the begenning for FiOS.

In the short 5 months New Jersey has gotten out of the way, with 6% of Verizon's revenue, and let TPC do what TPC has been doing for over 100 years the results are truly amazing.

We are number one.

neofate
Caveat Depascor
Premium Member
join:2003-11-11
Birmingham, AL

neofate

Premium Member

Re: This is only the beginning for FiOS.

FTTH is the future,.. one company or another.. one way or another. They will all merge to it.

Take your Cable Co's -- They utilize FTTN -- Fiber to the Node. Then Coax out to the homes.

Coax can transfer very high data rates, much higher than is utilized now.. and its cheap .. So it remains.

But, its prone to noise, etc etc.

Eventually, everything is going to be Fiber from Backbone to Your outlet on your wall, and heck.. Even from the wall to your device. (Eventually).

Everyone is looking for this to fail. If it does, fiber will still happen.

A million customers is not a bad start in such a time. Considering the cost factor.

This headway is bringing prices down for the future companies deployment. He's alpha/beta testing it now. The more of this type of equipment deployed,.. the more of all that 'dark fiber' gets lit.. finally. Companies like JDSU will finally be gold mines (Those who still have their stock,.. I'd hang onto it) -- The thoughts before the Bubble burst in the Market are still real.

The Telco's - The Cable Co's.. all MSO's.. will utilize Fiber to the Home.

Eventually, they will all operate in an identical manner. The most efficient manner of data over fiber.

What will differentiate them?

Market share,.. customer service,.. past experience.. and money to keep up.

Things companies are putting on the back burner now,.. might come back to haunt them.

A company with the capital could go in the densest markets of Digital communications and drop in Fiber overlays and prep for deployment at the drop of a hat. (Risky.. but if they had the money).

They could virtually rip all the customers out from the Telco's and Cable Co's ..

Offering say a 10/2 plan for 19.99$ Promo -- Optional up to 30/X for whatever. People would be coming over like wild flies.

In the end loyalty means jack,.. and people go where the speeds are for the money.

The low price will attract those who don't care about speed but want broadband. The Speeds will attract those who want the speed.

Cable Companies won't be able to compete because of their limitations ,.. simple saturation of their backbones wouldn't allow them to beef up speed offerings too much,.. Much less lower their prices on HSI. Telco's with ADSL,.. Please.

Once these companies get a deployment and equipment layout for All mediums over fiber.. Television programming, High speed Data, On demand, and anything else you can think of. Get it systematized, and organized. (Contracts worked out with networks, and so on) -- Who can compete?

Offer a complete package of everything.. Telephone/Digital Everything Television/ (5/1), (10/2), (15/3), (30/5), (50/10), (100/30) -- And so on packages.

Say , Telephony - Every network/premium - and Mid grade (15/3) for 99$ a month. Very feasible. I'd jump on board.

The Fiber would be clean, no more noise on the lines from Copper aging, distance from DSLAM/CO,.. and Radio-Grade-6 Coax with nicks/cuts, or improper fittings.

Not to say Fiber can't have problems.. But with Home deployment, they can package it inside flexible casings, that prevent it from Breaking within reason, and the shelf life is phenomenal.

It is the 'future' -- The only question is how will it play out. Will Verizon make the move to other markets? If so, how long will it take them.

Will other MSO's, pick up the ball and run with it.. Transitioning to a higher Technology FTTP.. Or will they go on the next 'step' ie: DOCSIS 3.0,.. DSLV2, and so on.

All of it is expensive,.. Whats the most bang for your buck? What verizon is doing, eating the cost at the beginning, and then having a product that can handle things with low maintenance a decade into the future. Or constant upgrades to all equipment other MSO's will deal with , for a lower cost initially..

I honestly didn't expect FiOS to come this far so quickly. It has a long way to go,.. but a million in what, two years max? Seems shorter than that once they really started deployment.

I'm sure the stock holders and revenue isn't the greatest.. but people who hold the stock for 5-10yrs down the road could be holding a 1985 Microsoft share. (Or a flop).

What I don't get is the anger so many people exhibit in not having FiOS deployed in their area. Come on. 1million out of 300million have it. Its brand new. I know it won't be in my area for at least 5 yrs, if then. I'm still excited for all you others who have it. Because I know in a decade it'll be around for all. (Perhaps not Rural,.. but if you live miles from civilization, you can't reasonably expect any company to run Fiber Optic to your home, or you and your 3 buddies areas).

Not to mention Rural is getting less and less common these days,.. We are like a Virus,.. we keep growing and growing, Cancerous.. We will consume every bit of land we have, eventually.

Done Rambling --

Good topic,.. good replies.. throughly enjoyed this discussion.
page: 1 · 2 · next