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PC Mag Corrects 'Best ISP' Report
Adds a few zeros, retools test....
by Karl Bode 04:12PM Friday Jun 22 2007 Tipped by telcolackey5 See Profile
Telcolackey writes in:
"PC Magazine's recent best ISP report made simple mistakes (recently corrected) like saying there are a hundred megabits in a Gigabit and a thousand kilobits in a gigabit (that's a megabit). There were also BBR users questioning the validity of the data as the SurfSpeed application does not measure speed tiers against each other or factor in the processor speed of the PC. To top it off, several of the fastest ISPs in specific states did not even offer service in that state. They've recently posted a partial retraction to this article."
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In the original piece, PC Mag said they created their SurfSpeed application because they were "frustrated with the disparity between the speeds ISPs claim to sell, what's reported on popular sites such as BroadbandReports.com and PC Pitstop, and the too-slow reality of day-to-day surfing."

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one_bored_si

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Charter

So Charter is still last right?

ninjatutle
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tisk tisk

expect more of these types of errors when outsourcing journalism gains popularity.

Mike
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Re: tisk tisk

Outsourced PC Mag?

Wow. At least Weekly World News is based in Florida.

Michieru2
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Re: tisk tisk

UGH!

Reminds me of the Miami Herald...
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bama1fan
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Re: tisk tisk

said by Michieru2:

UGH!

Reminds me of the Miami Herald...
The Miami Herald is a piece of crap!

ninjatutle
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»media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/···,00.html

The operation, based in Bangalore, has been running for six months with a six-strong editorial team reporting on companies' earnings, press releases and filings with the US Securities and Exchange Commission as well as analysts' stock alerts.

»www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentin···3953.htm

_Western book publishers, including Cambridge University, Prentice Hall, Thomson and Macmillan, are increasingly offshoring editorial tasks formerly performed in-house.

JTRockville
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Verizon FiOS still smokes the competition.

said by the corrected report :
Verizon's FiOS connection easily surpassed even the fastest cable and DSL speeds.
Indeed it does!

telcolackey5
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Re: Verizon FiOS still smokes the competition.

FiOS doesn't win in many states... The report:

• has FiOS as the fastest ISP in states that don't have FiOS.

•compares the fastest FiOS speed tier (the one that most early adopters are getting) with blended speed tiers from the massive customer base of cable and DSL. This data is all bogus.

•In one state Verizon DSL beats Verizon FiOS...

brooklynman4

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Re: Verizon FiOS still smokes the competition.

So who won th best ip award??

JTRockville
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Re: Verizon FiOS still smokes the competition.

said by brooklynman4:

So who won th best ip award??
It was a state-by-state report. In Maryland, Verizon FiOS is the fastest (of course)!

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said by telcolackey5:

FiOS doesn't win in many states... The report:

• has FiOS as the fastest ISP in states that don't have FiOS.

•compares the fastest FiOS speed tier (the one that most early adopters are getting) with blended speed tiers from the massive customer base of cable and DSL. This data is all bogus.

•In one state Verizon DSL beats Verizon FiOS...
As far as speed goes, it doesn't matter which tier of the other services you compare FIOS to, it will always come out the fastest. (for home use) So I don't know as though that matters to the end result, though I agree the inconsistency taints their entire article

FIOS as the fastest in states that don't have FIOS? My guess would be SOME places do, even if it's just a VZ Test site. And they just took the FCC accounting of broadband to the state level, rather than zip code.

I haven't read the article, but based on my client's experiences getting FIOS installed, I would guess that is the reason their DSL beat them somewhere. Not on speed, but on customer frustration level.
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Tzale
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WTF???

This is really sad. A major article in a tech magazine and they can't get it right? COME ON!

-Tzale

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Re: WTF???

said by Tzale:

This is really sad. A major article in a tech magazine and they can't get it right? COME ON!
This is PC Magazine we're talking about here.
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Re: WTF???

said by pnh102:

said by Tzale:

This is really sad. A major article in a tech magazine and they can't get it right? COME ON!
This is PC Magazine we're talking about here.
Yeah, some people treat PC Rag Mag as gospel though...
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said by pnh102:

said by Tzale:

This is really sad. A major article in a tech magazine and they can't get it right? COME ON!
This is PC Magazine we're talking about here.
As a former technical analyst/writer for PC Magazine of five years, sadly I can attest to this.

The mag is still written in-house at least from what I hear. The actual testing, however....

batterup
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You ain't seen nothing yet.

G-PON is being deployed and FiOS is in its infancy. CATV bend over and kiss your donkey goodbye.

buddyfrench

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Grabit

Grabit is a pretty good measure of your download speed and the fluctuations. I download binaries nightly and the speed varies tremendously. I pay for a 6 M Dsl line sometimes I get a tremondous download sometimes it crawls. If you bitch, you bitch to some soul in India who hasn't eaten in 2 weeks. They can't understand you and you can't understand them. Oh how I love the "New AT&T" (sigh) But they do give me the binaries. So I am not taking Indian language lessons yet.
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Re: Fluctuating Download Rates

said by buddyfrench:

I download binaries nightly and the speed varies tremendously. I pay for a 6 M Dsl line sometimes I get a tremondous download sometimes it crawls.
The fact that your download rates (electricity travels at the same speed regardless) vary is no indication of how well your DSL service performs. It's the last link in a very long and often tangled web of traffic. And it's the only part where you have the circuit all to yourself.

You're only one out of a billion people and/or computers who are contending for a share of the capacity of anywhere from dozens to thousands of individual circuits that come into play during a long download. Each of these circuits can be servicing a very large number of individual transactions, each with unique terminal points, at any given moment. So, given the staggering number of variables involved in so many places aside from your DSL line, it's simply not reasonable to attribute much statistical significance to the rate at which data travels from an Internet host to your computer to your DSL connection.

To look at it a different way, if you have a long commute that takes you across many primary, secondary and tertiary public roads, widening your driveway isn't going to reduce your commute time.

Rob A
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So....

Verizon Fios is still #1, VZ bring me fiber!
fritzo2162

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How can they rate dialup speed- it's all the same!

Major dialup ISP's all buy their dialup numbers from wholesalers, and there's only a few wholesalers out there. Therefore, they all pretty much use the same providers. How can they say "Netzero is faster than when they're most likely dialing into the same place? Dialup speeds are based on phoneline quality anymore, so it's a pretty stupid comparison.
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Re: How can they rate dialup speed- it's all the same!

said by fritzo2162:

Major dialup ISP's all buy their dialup numbers from wholesalers, and there's only a few wholesalers out there. Therefore, they all pretty much use the same providers. How can they say "Netzero is faster than when they're most likely dialing into the same place? Dialup speeds are based on phoneline quality anymore, so it's a pretty stupid comparison.
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u can get 128 dsl for less than dial up
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PC Magazine

The rag has not been relevant (to me anyway) in over 5 years (maybe longer).

It has morphed from a by-weekly tech filled magazine with tips, tricks and software and the main reason I found out about Dell, Gateway, Micron and other companies.

At $4.99 cover price, the magazine is very thin and the information just not worth the price when better, faster, CHEAPER information is available online.

The days of interesting article from the likes of John C. Dvorak and others are long gone.

Broadband Reports (formerly DSL REPORTS) is "THE" source for broadband information and testing tools.