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join:2006-04-26
Grand Ledge, MI | Verizon renamed vodafone? If vodafone buys out verizon does that mean a switch to GSM and rebranding like AT&T did with cingular? | |
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| BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Verizon renamed vodafone? No you misread it.
Verizon Wireless , is owned by VZ and Vodaphone. 62% and 38%.
I said this would happen a year or so ago. VZ will purchase as much of VZW as possible. As long as they remain separate entities VZ can hold VZW and use VZW profits to pad their bottom line while rolling out FIOS.
Beautiful play by Ivan if they get the ok. Truly a smart man.
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| | TheOtherPete
join:2001-06-28
Boyds, MD
| Re: Verizon renamed vodafone? said by BosstonesOwn  :No you misread it. Verizon Wireless , is owned by VZ and Vodaphone. 62% and 38%. As did you - 38% is the ownership that Vodaphone *would* still have if they sold off $10 billion of VZW to VZ.
According to the article, currently VZ has a 55% stake in VZW; that means Vodaphone currently owns 45%. | |
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Everett, MA
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Jwobot
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Sterling Heights, MI | Re: Verizon renamed vodafone? Yeah I wish that also. | |
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join:2001-01-13
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| Re: Verizon renamed vodafone? said by BosstonesOwn :not me im more then happy with my cdma phones thank you very much. GSM while being a world standard is starting to show it's age. They are simply selling to many phones using gsm and queueing up on the towers to connect is getting horrendous in most metro areas. Of course the flip side of that is that CDMA can degrade to the point where you are paying for the call but it is unintelligable. WCDMA, when/if it rolls outs based on resolution of the Qualcomm/Broadcom dispute, will put the two technologies in the same ballpark. It will probably take 4G to finally unify under one technology. | |
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| Surfinusa
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| VikingStorm
join:2002-06-25
Omaha, NE | I don't get the repeated mention of Verizon switching to GSM if bought. What exactly would someone be buying if they had to get rid of VZ's entire CDMA network? Just the customers? | |
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DaveNJ
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1 edit | Re: Verizon renamed vodafone? said by VikingStorm :I don't get the repeated mention of Verizon switching to GSM if bought. What exactly would someone be buying if they had to get rid of VZ's entire CDMA network? Just the customers? Verizon regardless of cdma, has to move to newer technology GSM forced operators to move to a MAP core based system, which supports all types of new technology. Verizon still uses an ANSI core. Either way Verizon is going to have to move to a more modern internal network.
If Verizon did switch, they would support both networks until the conversion was complete. Telstra in Australia is doing the exact thing. Converting from Cdma to Gsm/wcdma/3gsm.
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Fort Worth, TX | I wish VZ could convert GSM to be able to use in the world | |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | WOW "VZW, now estimated between $60-$70 Billion. With all of the resources being devoted to the FiOS rollout, you have to wonder where they would come up with that kind of cash."
ATT for the super merger in 2012 | |
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MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
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| Re: WOW said by odreian615 :"VZW, now estimated between $60-$70 Billion. With all of the resources being devoted to the FiOS rollout, you have to wonder where they would come up with that kind of cash." ATT for the super merger in 2012 please God no. Everything ATT touches turns to "mediocre"
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| Re: WOW said by MarkyD :said by odreian615 :"VZW, now estimated between $60-$70 Billion. With all of the resources being devoted to the FiOS rollout, you have to wonder where they would come up with that kind of cash." ATT for the super merger in 2012 please God no. Everything ATT touches turns to "mediocre" It wouldn't surprise me; if everything is AT&T, it makes things that much easier to monitor.
Either way, I have a feeling AT&T will buy out Qwest before they buy out Verizon.....
Now, if that happens, it would be AT&T vs Embarq vs Independents.... | |
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: WOW I think the opposite. Verizon has the absolute wrap sheet to blow cash compared to at&t.
They will slow fios roll outs and slowly buy independents in areas that are densely populated. Then maybe make a bid on qwest , who probably won't sell out to at&t.
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join:2002-01-08
Falls Church, VA | "mediocre" is a very generous term for the performance of AT&T's management!
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| buying back a wireless soul Verizon will pay a pretty penny to get its money maker back from the devil vodafone. The longer it takes, the more expensive it will get. Notice telcom stock values are pretty high lately.. One wonders why they didn't make the deal work after they sold Puerto Rico. Now interest rates will push higher and they will almost certainly have to dip into the FIOS fund to make it work. Then, BAM! Cable companies pounce with Docsis 3.0 and they've humped themselves! Not even an Iphone would save them then, | |
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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | VZW won't change technology For all of you guys talking about VZW switching to W-CDMA; it's not going to happen. Verizon is completely dedicated to CDMA/EVDO. One day wireless carriers will probably all use the same technology, but it will be a few generations at least. | |
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BPLSUCKS
join:2006-04-26
Grand Ledge, MI
| Hmm... If I remember correctly level 9 and level 10 GSM/EDGE networks can support more features then any other cellular network and more customers per tower. U.S carriers have at the most level 6 GSM/EDGE networks with Japan and china (and parts of europe) having level 8/9/or even 10 in some areas. A lot of european and asian carriers do videophone or have more features then american carriers. What we are doing cellphone wise is old news everywhere else. If verizon were to switch and use level 9 and 10 networks they may have a sporting chance to be top dog for years to come. Also if they wanted to they could use european (900+1800) and american (850+1900) bands to have a truly global network. Since a majority of phones today are quad-band or at least tri-band VZW would have no problem pulling this off. Also if they were to have seperate equipment for each frequency then you could have 3x the customers per cell tower (useful in metro areas). Not only would it open a new market of importing European maker phones to compete with american phones but we would also get a more feature rich network using level 9 and level 10 GSM/EDGE networks. If they wanted to they could even keep on support for their CDMA equipment until all CDMA contracts expire after a basic network is complete. W-CDMA has a problem of short range towers (hence it only being used in japan) hence why it is not viable in the united states. | |
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