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ISP Deletes ALL User Multimedia Files
Just in case some of them might be pirated....
by Karl Bode 08:56AM Wednesday Jun 27 2007
Boing Boing notes that Australian DSL provider Exetel runs an automated script each night that deletes every and all multimedia file type (mp3, mpg, mpeg, avi, wma) from their users' personal webspaces in order to protect themselves from the copyright cops. According to the ISP's website:
"Based on the MIPI's actions in March 2005 aganst another ISP (People Telecom) and the actual finding guilty of a second ISP in July 2005 (ComCen), Exetel now believe there is a need to take more direct and pro-active action to monitor content stored on publicly accessible servers under its control."
Users can e-mail the ISP to opt out of this nightly housecleaning (after movies of grandma disappear?), provided they send an e-mail promising the ISP none of the content is copyrighted. Hopefully, AT&T's promised U.S. industry first piracy crackdown will be somewhat more sophisticated.

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Jon
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Lisle, IL

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Say goodbye...

to your vacation and birthday party movies you were sharing with grandma. Hope you have a back up!
Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

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Re: Say goodbye...

Well if your only copy is sitting on a ISP's public webspace, you deserve to have your content deleted. It's going to happen accidentally at some point, it being on purpose will just teach you the lesson more quickly.

en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
simple fix... rename the extension, or zip / tar / gz / bz2 the file
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Jehu
Hodor
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and

and...?

dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Re: and

So users can setup scripts too to reupload on a schedule[after the isp script ran]
cat 'n mouse
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Mactron
el Camino Real
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Harsh

WoW ! Australian ISPs really seem to suck. Caps, high prices, and now this. Also note this is another OPT-out program by a company. Companies never do it the other way around... Because they know customers wouldn't.
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inteller
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK

time to start naming everything .jpg

stupid stupid stupid.....

LeeBee
It's Dark Out There

join:2003-06-18
Swissieland

nothing wrong with it

The minority obviously spoiled it for the majority.

But in the end they won't block P2P traffic, I assume?

33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada

Stupid

How big a webspace are they offering? My ISP (Eastlink) has a webspace so small that there's no way you could have any copyrighted materials.

Congratulations Exetel - you are todays ILS (Internet laughing stock)

d_l
Barsoom
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Re: Stupid

From Exetel's FAQs:
# You have 60 Mbytes capacity for your web space
# Traffic to and from your web space does not count towards your ADSL plan allowances

33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada

Re: Stupid

Thanks for that...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a little bird tells me that roughly 30 minutes of typical quality video averages around 180MB. They must have a beef with smaller files, like mp3. Why not just ban that particular file type?

Draconian and dumb if you ask me. Hopefully their customers leave in droves.
Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

Re: Stupid

I wonder how many are even using the webspace. I've fired up my Comcast personal webspace maybe twice in the 7 years I've had the service. I'm the only person I know who has done this. (and most people I know use Comcast, because the alternative is 768k DSL)

ColorBASIC
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I NEVER use ISP services other than the connection itself

I never use ISP webspace, email or anything other than the connection. Occasionally I'll use an ISP's usenet servers but even that is rare. I used my ISP's portal until they turned it into a flash-bloated POS.

Too bad I'm still paying for all that other crap.
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Mactron
el Camino Real
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Re: I NEVER use ISP services other than the connection itself

said by ColorBASIC:

I never use ISP webspace, email or anything other than the connection.

Too bad I'm still paying for all that other crap.
Tying your online self to a ISP is painful in both their crummy offerings and leaving them.
said by ColorBASIC:

I used my ISP's portal until they turned it into a flash-bloated POS.
»addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433
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GeneStarwind

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Re: I NEVER use ISP services other than the connection itself

I just installed that. Class.

Anonymous_
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worth a try

i found a work around

just rename the ending of the file from Mp3 to exe

in a rar file and ask the downloader to rename it back
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AlphaOne
I see
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It's copyrighted ...

by ME! Will they delete it too? Am I not allowed to upload media I created?

Glaice
Brutal Video Vault
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Re: It's copyrighted ...

Because they're retardingly anal?

Transmaster
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Cheyenne, WY

Re: It's copyrighted ...

Why would anyone keep such things on an external server anyway.
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jamesd43254243

@blueyonder.co.uk
Karl was inaccurate in suggesting that you must relinquish your own copyrights and are prohibited from hosting licensed content when he wrote "promising the ISP none of the content is copyrighted".

What is really required is "I am the copyright owner, have permission of the copyright owner or that there is no copyright on the files".

wellduh

@comcast.net

just use youtube

for those videos to grandma.

SrsBsns

join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK

silly idea

Just rename them to .abc. Issue resolved!!

Doci
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Extension means jack

You guys do know that there are utilities(file) out there that detect file types from their signature and not extension? Get out of the windows extension world once in a while
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sivran
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Re: Extension means jack

Extensions were invented for a reason.

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Common Carrier

I like the common carrier concept brought up in another similar thread. Why is the ISP responsible at all? They didn't put anything their, they just provide a service.

Bush and this 9/11 changed the world cronies have changed more common sense than anything else.
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KrK
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This is why ISP's need Safe Harbour

... If Safe Harbor protections are undermined, either criminally or with civil judgments, then ALL ISPS will have to do this.

Think of the day when USENET dies because ISPS block all access due to the fact someone MIGHT send a copyrighted file. Imagine FTP being mostly blocked and all ports being blocked EXCEPT for certain ones being open for select applications.

If you think Telco and Cable ISP's care about your "Rights" if it costs them money (or criminal time) think again, they'll cut you out/off/down in a second. This is why Safe Harbor must be protected vigilantly.
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Re: This is why ISP's need Safe Harbour

said by KrK:

... If Safe Harbor protections are undermined, either criminally or with civil judgments, then ALL ISPS will have to do this.

Think of the day when USENET dies because ISPS block all access due to the fact someone MIGHT send a copyrighted file. Imagine FTP being mostly blocked and all ports being blocked EXCEPT for certain ones being open for select applications.

If you think Telco and Cable ISP's care about your "Rights" if it costs them money (or criminal time) think again, they'll cut you out/off/down in a second. This is why Safe Harbor must be protected vigilantly.
Agree.

Anyone else ready to sign?

prestonlewis
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Sacramento, CA

What's the point?

What does an average person need high speed internet for if you can't download music/movies or other large files (whether legal or not)? If the internet police continue, we might as well go back to dialup or low speed DSL Lite and save our money.