montee4 Premium Member join:2004-02-15 Chicago, IL 4 edits |
montee4
Premium Member
2007-Jun-27 9:49 am
QoS?I wonder how they are going to address QoS issues going through a customers ISP.
I can see quite a few complaints on this that are truly out of T-Mobile's control.
Anyone that has VoIP and downloads a large file can attest to the degraded call quality unless some sort of QoS is in place.
What kind of voice quality can I expect when making a call over a congested free Wi-Fi network?
$19.99 is great for unlimited calls, but they better have decent quality. I just hope they thought this one through. | |
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Re: QoS?I believe they meant $19.99 in addition to the calling plan the customer already has. So for me it would bump my bill up to $135, but I could probably also drop down to the 700min plan since I would be using less minutes, so it's pretty much a wash. | |
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| | N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano Premium Member join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs |
N3OGH
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2007-Jun-27 10:13 am
Re: QoS?I really think it all depends on your reasons for getting this particular service.
If you're wanting a wireless signal in your home, like the author of the Crunch Gear article, then the $20 might be worth it, especially if you don't have a home phone. The ability to use this particular service at open hot spots would just be a bonus.
There's no way anyone is looking at this as a money saver, though. If you all ready have a broadband connection, you may as well get a decent VoIP provider set up, and use a cordless phone.
In the end, this will end up being a niche product, IMHO. | |
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| PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301 Premium Member join:2005-01-03 |
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said by montee4:I wonder how they are going to address QoS issues going through a customers ISP. I can see quite a few complaints on this that are truly out of T-Mobile's control. Anyone that has VoIP and downloads a large file can attest to the degraded call quality unless some sort of QoS is in place. The ISP isn't so much an issue, as how much of the home connection is being used. That is why T-Mobile is selling their own branded routers. These routers give QOS priority to the phone. Personally, I don't have one of the routers. I simply make sure I limit the DL and UL of Azureus! | |
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jtudor MVM join:2002-12-07 Morganton, NC |
jtudor
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2007-Jun-27 10:12 am
Who caresNobody in my neck of the woods cares about this at all. Why? Because you cannot get T-Mobile service anywhere in North Carolina, not even in Charlotte. It's available in a couple of cities in South Carolina but nowhere in north Carolina. You can use T-Mobile here while roaming, you just can't live here and be a subscriber. So Whoopee big fat hairy deal!!! | |
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Re: Who caresI just found that out last week while vacationing in Asheville. I would either be roaming on SunCom or Cingular. And my Nextel Blackberry was spotty in the mountains (naturally).
Though I will say T-Mobile service in the Twin Cities is phenomenal. | |
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| | TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY
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Re: Who careswhat I am waiting for are the first post that goes something like; I paid 600 bucks for a Iphone, and.......... 1, it sucks 2, hard to text message 3, no memory 4, I have already scratched it 5, no battery life. 6. I wish I still had T-Mobile service etc, etc, etc. Of course the average Apple zealot will not admit this | |
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| | | Ahrenl join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA |
Ahrenl
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2007-Jun-27 2:07 pm
Re: Who caresReally? An IPhone post? Why?
Although I don't own Apple products on principal (alternatives with same functionality are always cheaper) for people who have the money they do a fairly good job. Also they have glass faces, so will be pretty scratch resistant. I would think you'd crack it before your would scratch it. Battery life has been reviewed as beyond expectations. It has plenty of memory if you're not trying to replace your Ipod. I only use about 9GB's on my Zen for music. Video may be what really limits it.
In any case, lets not bring up completely unrelated topics, even if you're responding to some pretty rediculous posts. (Why are you commenting on a service that isn't available to you? I can't get Sushi delivered to me, therefore I hate sushi delivery companies. wtf?) | |
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| PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301 Premium Member join:2005-01-03 |
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said by jtudor:Because you cannot get T-Mobile service anywhere in North Carolina, not even in Charlotte. It's available in a couple of cities in South Carolina but nowhere in north Carolina. You can use T-Mobile here while roaming, you just can't live here and be a subscriber. Why not? I live in an area where there are NO T-mobile towers (only Unicel), and my T-Mobile service works fine. I just don't have a local number, but I could care less about that. | |
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| | jtudor MVM join:2002-12-07 Morganton, NC |
jtudor
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2007-Jun-27 4:09 pm
Re: Who caresI didn't say that it will not work, just that as a resident of NC I cannot be a subscriber.
I know that I could go to another state and sign up there and have a non local number, but most carriers will not allow you to do that, and if they catch you doing it, your account will be terminated.
They do that because most require you to make over 50% of your calls on their network, not roaming. | |
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| | | PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301 Premium Member join:2005-01-03 |
Re: Who caressaid by jtudor:I know that I could go to another state and sign up there and have a non local number, but most carriers will not allow you to do that, and if they catch you doing it, your account will be terminated. They do that because most require you to make over 50% of your calls on their network, not roaming. You are correct, regarding Cingular. I have a personal friend who ordered Cingular online (it let him), then one day they simply cut him off for using more than 50% of his minutes in the Unicel network. Conversely, I've been living in a Unicel-only area for two years and T-Mobile is THRILLED to have me (I've had 4 lines for 4 years). So you can get T-Mobile, but you would have to do it online, or go for a drive. So I completely understand why you would not. | |
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xrobertcmx Premium Member join:2001-06-18 White Plains, MD |
I would be interested in thisBut it doesn't seem that the site has been updated or that it is available here yet. | |
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| kapilThe Kapil join:2000-04-26 Chicago, IL |
kapil
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2007-Jun-27 11:19 am
Re: I would be interested in thissame here. Neither the T-Mo site nor the onlyphoneyouneed site appear to reflect the product release? Did someone jump the gun on an embargoed press release? | |
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| Draganta join:2004-12-16 Oakland Gardens, NY |
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said by xrobertcmx:But it doesn't seem that the site has been updated or that it is available here yet. Look again. It as there since last night. For sure I know you are not doing it right. First pick a plan. Next screen you will see additional services. There you will see it. If you are an exisiting member, just go to edit plan and services. | |
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| | xrobertcmx Premium Member join:2001-06-18 White Plains, MD |
Re: I would be interested in thisI just logged in and tried, no joy. Nothing there. | |
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rupst2 join:2003-01-07 Columbia, MO |
rupst2
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2007-Jun-27 11:47 am
tmobile scamTmobile doesn't pay phone companies call termination charges. So much so a local small telco cut off all termination of Tmobile orginated calls to service numbers in their territory. If the legal stuff ever gets resolved(they owe millions upon millions to over 500 telco's in a lawsuit) I wouldn't expect to see Tmobile around in a few years. | |
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| FiL25 Premium Member join:2005-08-16 Silver Spring, MD |
FiL25
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2007-Jun-27 12:31 pm
Re: tmobile scambah...their one of the best in terms of minutes-to-price ratio and coverage. They ain't going nowhere. | |
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dmeyer6
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2007-Jun-27 12:10 pm
Waste of moneyT-Mobile should be paying its customers to use UMA, not the other way around. You might as well bump up your rate plan up two tiers and get more "anywhere" minutes instead of paying $20/mo to use WiFi hotspots for calls. T-Mobile wants people to use UMA to free up spectrum for calls on their cell sites, therefore if they really want this to be adopted, they should at least give people a discount on their phone bills.
Simple and pure ripoff. | |
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| Draganta join:2004-12-16 Oakland Gardens, NY |
Re: Waste of moneysaid by dmeyer6:T-Mobile should be paying its customers to use UMA, not the other way around. You might as well bump up your rate plan up two tiers and get more "anywhere" minutes instead of paying $20/mo to use WiFi hotspots for calls. T-Mobile wants people to use UMA to free up spectrum for calls on their cell sites, therefore if they really want this to be adopted, they should at least give people a discount on their phone bills. Simple and pure ripoff. You sound a little bitter. It sounds like a) you are not a T-Mobile member and have decided to flame the new service; b) You have no need for the service so it doesn't justify the cost and still decided to flame the new service; c) you posted thinking you are smart but have no clue on who the service is geared to. I work in a converted hanger in JFK. I get no service because of all the metal and concrete (all services are affected). However I do have Wi-Fi all around the area and would be able to make calls. This is a great service for a person like me. | |
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| | intellerSociopaths always win. join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK |
Re: Waste of moneyWell hopefully for tmobile everyone will work in a converted hangar. | |
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| | | Draganta join:2004-12-16 Oakland Gardens, NY 1 edit |
Re: Waste of moneysaid by inteller:Well hopefully for tmobile everyone will work in a converted hangar. An educated statement would have been, customers who don't get a strong signal looking for alternatives. And an alternative to other VoIP services. | |
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| | PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301 Premium Member join:2005-01-03 |
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said by Draganta:I work in a converted hanger in JFK. I get no service because of all the metal and concrete (all services are affected). However I do have Wi-Fi all around the area and would be able to make calls. This is a great service for a person like me. Precisely. I live on the Canadian border. I can only get service from Rogers, and that is about $1.00 per minute. I've have this service from T-Mobile since November, and it's been beautiful. | |
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Re: Waste of moneysaid by PolarBear03:Precisely. I live on the Canadian border. I can only get service from Rogers, and that is about $1.00 per minute. I've have this service from T-Mobile since November, and it's been beautiful. I plan on getting this service. The phone are horrible. Thank God it is GSM and you can just switch the card on the phones. Hopefully the second generation of the Motorola RAZR V2 is capable of UMA. An additional $10 is not bad at all for the service | |
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| | | ToadmanHypnotoad join:2001-11-28 Mystery |
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said by PolarBear03:said by Draganta:I work in a converted hanger in JFK. I get no service because of all the metal and concrete (all services are affected). However I do have Wi-Fi all around the area and would be able to make calls. This is a great service for a person like me. Precisely. I live on the Canadian border. I can only get service from Rogers, and that is about $1.00 per minute. I've have this service from T-Mobile since November, and it's been beautiful. Actually you struck a good cord with me, this could be a viable solution to the international roaming costs of .99 to 4.99 that T-mobile charges per minute for international calls. Wonder if it works internationally or if they block all foreign IP requests? | |
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Re: Waste of moneysaid by Toadman:Actually you struck a good cord with me, this could be a viable solution to the international roaming costs of .99 to 4.99 that T-mobile charges per minute for international calls. Wonder if it works internationally or if they block all foreign IP requests? WOW, I am surprised I never thought of that. I don't see why they would; roaming is expensive because they have to pay that other provide to use their towers. Using UMA, it all goes over the internet, so why would they give a d@mn where you were connecting from? | |
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said by Toadman:Actually you struck a good cord with me, this could be a viable solution to the international roaming costs of .99 to 4.99 that T-mobile charges per minute for international calls. Wonder if it works internationally or if they block all foreign IP requests? As soon as I get the service, I will test this out. I never thought of that. If T-Mobile doesn't filter IP Addresses then that will be a great alternative when you are overseas. Also if this works, I would recomend all who have this service and travel overseas to buy this product: » www.linksys.com/servlet/ ··· 39789B01 and conversion plugs. | |
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| | NOCManMadMacHatter Premium Member join:2004-09-30 Colorado Springs, CO |
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Go throw your money away then. The pure fact is that you're paying 60 dollars for the broadband connection. 50 dollars for the tmobile service, then another 20 dollars to terminate calls over your internet connection back to their network. | |
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| | | PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301 Premium Member join:2005-01-03 |
Re: Waste of moneysaid by NOCMan:Go throw your money away then. The pure fact is that you're paying 60 dollars for the broadband connection. 50 dollars for the tmobile service, then another 20 dollars to terminate calls over your internet connection back to their network. I pay $40 for broadband, and 95% of it gets used by my computers. Two and a half percent is used by Vonage, and the final 2.5% by T-Mobile. I pay $140 a month for FOUR T-Mobile lines, and the $20 for the UMA service. The $40 for internet is something I am going to have anyway, UMA and Vonage or not. And paying the $20 for the UMA was cancelled out by dropping my rate plan $20 because I now use far less minutes. If you think I am wasting money, you must not be very good with math. | |
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New phone or typo So far it only supports two phones: the Samsung t409 and the Nokia 6086.
Either that is a typo, or there are now THREE phones capable of this service, because I have the Nokia 6136 currently connected to my wireless router. EDIT: I checked the website: the two phones they offer for this service are different than the two they were offering during the Seattle test phase. So not a typo. But I can say I have one of the originals that no one else can get! Like that says anything... blah. | |
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Yborg Premium Member join:2002-01-01 Bavaria |
Yborg
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2007-Jun-27 2:51 pm
Will it work with other Wi-Fi enabled phones?I currently have T-Mobile HTC Dash and it is wifi capable. Does anyone know if this phone could or will be able to function for this service? Maybe with a software upgrade? I could not find any info regarding this. It would be nice if it could work . | |
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