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join:2003-12-23
Everett, WA | The hacking has only started... This is just the start of the long drawn out hackathon..... | |
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peter_m
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join:2005-07-13
Canada, QC | Re: The hacking has only started... Historically Apple has turned a blind eye to hacking. My guess is they can't officially encourage it, but let's face it, it boosts sales to have a product that can be user modified / adapted. | |
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@qwest.net
| "DVD Jon" exploring how to activate a brand new unactivated iPhone without signing up for AT&T service (the mobile phone service won't work, obviously).
well, "DVD Jon", we want to wish you good luck with activating your at&t phone w/o using at&t. we personally do not know what your issue is but we had no problem, basicly, man made it, man can break it... | |
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ColorBASIC
8-bit Fun
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join:2006-12-29
Corona, CA | Hackintosh type projects show that not to be the case. | |
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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| This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. If Microsoft pulled this crap, people would be all over Microsoft's case saying that this was typical of them, blah blah. Just goes to show that Apple is more like Microsoft than many of us give credit for. In the end, it's about $$$.
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join:2004-01-19
Racine, WI
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by Rob  :In the end, it's about $$$. of course it's about $$$$ silly, look around u, EVERYTHING is about money, and don't expect it to get any better:)) | |
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by Timt49 :said by Rob :In the end, it's about $$$. of course it's about $$$$ silly, look around u, EVERYTHING is about money, and don't expect it to get any better:)) But..but..but.. it's Apple! They are the holy grail. They care about no money, but about their people!
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by Rob :said by Timt49 :said by Rob :In the end, it's about $$$. of course it's about $$$$ silly, look around u, EVERYTHING is about money, and don't expect it to get any better:)) But..but..but.. it's Apple! They are the holy grail. They care about no money, but about their people! Would this device cost $600 if it DIDN'T have an apple logo on it? of course not.
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by dvd536 :Would this device cost $600 if it DIDN'T have an apple logo on it? of course not. It isn't even the price tag. It's the fact that they went exclusively with AT&T.
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chris
focus
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join:2000-08-13
Middletown, CT
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by Rob :said by dvd536 :Would this device cost $600 if it DIDN'T have an apple logo on it? of course not. It isn't even the price tag. It's the fact that they went exclusively with AT&T. They actually didn't want that. Apple shopped this thing around to everyone and everyone but ATT turned it down. Why? Because Apple controls the customer and makes the final decisions on repairs/replacements.
The wireless company (in this case ATT) can't even do a swap. No matter what the situation, the customer has to let the phone be shipped back to Apple where they make the decision on whether to replace/repair/deny. That can be a huge black eye in the customer service/retention department.
Not to mention, the stores can't even activate the phone. It has to be done through iTunes, at home. Talk about losing control of your subscriber... | |
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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by chris :said by Rob :said by dvd536 :Would this device cost $600 if it DIDN'T have an apple logo on it? of course not. It isn't even the price tag. It's the fact that they went exclusively with AT&T. They actually didn't want that. Apple shopped this thing around to everyone and everyone but ATT turned it down. Why? Because Apple controls the customer and makes the final decisions on repairs/replacements. The wireless company (in this case ATT) can't even do a swap. No matter what the situation, the customer has to let the phone be shipped back to Apple where they make the decision on whether to replace/repair/deny. That can be a huge black eye in the customer service/retention department. Not to mention, the stores can't even activate the phone. It has to be done through iTunes, at home. Talk about losing control of your subscriber... Oh, thanks for that. So just shows that Apple is even worse than Microsoft! 
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biggbrother
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join:2001-11-07
Providence, RI
| said by chris :Not to mention, the stores can't even activate the phone. It has to be done through iTunes, at home. Talk about losing control of your subscriber... It can also be done in-store at an AT&T store or Apple store.
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focus
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join:2000-08-13
Middletown, CT
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by biggbrother :said by chris :Not to mention, the stores can't even activate the phone. It has to be done through iTunes, at home. Talk about losing control of your subscriber... It can also be done in-store at an AT&T store or Apple store. A buddy of mine works for them and he told me that they can't. He said a customer actually came in with his laptop but the stores do not have access to iTunes (the internet is filtered through Dallas or something)
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LordMalak
join:2003-07-02
Brazil
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| Somhow I highly doubt it. If you were right, Apple would've released the iPhone unlocked.
1. Buy the iPhone from Apple and put in your favorite carrier's SIM in it for BASIC phone functionality (that's make and receive calls, smartphone users).
2. For all other functionality (Ipod, Web, etc) activate it in iTunes.
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join:2007-06-29
Bonsall, CA | Look at the Treo's 755p device price, its more then the iPhone, just because theres no apple doesn't mean its not $$$$ | |
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Norm, The Enourmous Basset
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join:2001-02-08
San Francisco, CA
·SONIC.NET
| Apple has never given any hint that it cares about its consumers. Near as I can see, the cachet of being a "MacAddict" is that you worship at a superior o.s. and identify with the temple of genius. God, however, has never acknowledged his worshipers.
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Healbot
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join:2003-07-16
Vancouver, WA
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. said by sanfranson :Apple has never given any hint that it cares about its consumers. Near as I can see, the cachet of being a "MacAddict" is that you worship at a superior o.s. and identify with the temple of genius. God, however, has never acknowledged his worshipers. wow, did you just compare buying Apple products to religion? | |
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. Why not? It's applicable. | |
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join:2003-01-26
Gaithersburg, MD
| Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. But why put religion in the same company as such fanatics? iPhone: Let the fanbois jihad begin!! "He does not have an iPhone!! Kill the infidel!!" *makes loud ululating noise, roars across the Peet's waving a latte and an Apple branded scimitar*  | |
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58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: This just shows that Apple is more like Microsoft than.. For some people, it is a religion and they behave like it's jihad.
(great post, by the way...) | |
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RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | Sticking it to the man Power to the people! | |
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ
·Comcast
3 edits | Re: Sticking it to the man said by RR Conductor :Power to the people! Sure. DVD Jon has figured out how to get an iPhone to work without phone service. What a genius. Give him a medal.
I am sure everyone will want to go right out and buy a $600 iPhone so that they can have a cellphone without cellphone capability.
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palbri
Premium
join:2000-10-22
Bristol, VT
clubs: | Re: Sticking it to the man From what I have been hearing, the cellphone aspect is its weakest point, unless they dump AT&T.
But, you are right. While it is cool, I would refuse to pay $600 for an IPOD , let alone one w/o cellphone capability. | |
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join:2002-08-14
Austin, TX | Re: Sticking it to the man They shouldn't dump AT&T, rather, they should dump EDGE. GSM/EDGE is yesterday's TDMA. If the phone had GSM/HSDPA 3G, I would have been standing in line for one last weekend. | |
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blueeyesm
join:2003-09-05
Waterloo, ON | Can you do better?
Btw - all the other features on the phone still work, making it a really nice iPod. | |
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA | Re: Sticking it to the man All you'd need is somebody to make a 3rd-party VoIP app and then you'd have the "phone" aspects back again. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
Premium
join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
·CableOne
| Re: Sticking it to the man said by AquaBlaze :All you'd need is somebody to make a 3rd-party VoIP app and then you'd have the "phone" aspects back again. Only while you're connected to wifi. This hack does not enable the cellular capabilities of the device.
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA | Re: Sticking it to the man Thus why I said it would permit it to be a phone...never said it would be a cell phone. | |
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chanur
Premium
join:2001-02-26
Colorado Springs, CO
| said by LiamJunket :said by RR Conductor :Power to the people! Sure. DVD Jon has figured out how to get an i Phone to work without phone service. What a genius. Give him a medal. I am sure everyone will want to go right out and buy a $600 iPhone so that the can have a cellphone without cellphone capability. The cell phone bit is it's weakest characteristic. Instead they have a super cool iPod/Media Player/Camera/wi-fi internet device.
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RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA | Re: Sticking it to the man I have them, no problems here. | |
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BOGBS
Premium
join:2004-05-11
Saco, ME
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Sticking it to the man Same here, I've had them for more than 5 years now, and wouldn't dream of changing. It's worked great wherever I've gone. Except at my home, but ahh well. That's what the landline is for. Or, I can just walk out my door. I've tested Verizon in the areas I've traveled, and have seen negligible difference. Of course, either phone was better in some areas than the other, but it felt balanced. This is at least in Maine. I've never had issues with my phone in NY, NJ, FL, GA, MA, NH (except Northern). I live in northern new england, so of course I'll have dead spots... | |
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tc1uscg
join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI
| said by LiamJunket :said by RR Conductor :Power to the people! Sure. DVD Jon has figured out how to get an i Phone to work without phone service. What a genius. Give him a medal. I am sure everyone will want to go right out and buy a $600 iPhone so that they can have a cellphone without cellphone capability. Wow.. I must be smart 2.. I got one of them there old smart phones (sprint's Kyrocia(sic) 6035 I think) and it still works just fine without service (the PDA portion that is).  and I figured this out just by turning it on... | |
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Lil Jon
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join:2006-06-26
Lawrenceville, GA | Re: If you want to crack yours open... nice , i was wondering how 2 do this. | |
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join:2000-10-18
Stuart, FL | Re: If you want to crack yours open... Wow, you mean it's only a matter of time before a GSM phone is unlocked?
**SHOCKER**
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@qwest.net | lol, we love it, this is a way, you go twentymbcabl. any other advertising of illegally accessing any product would of course be illegal. | |
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PolarBear
The bear formerly known as aaron8301
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join:2005-01-03
Riverside, WA
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | Very nice ...now if someone could only hack the price. | |
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@covad.net
| blame must be shared i keep hearing the blame put on att...but the fact is att offers both edge and hsdpa..hsdpa being pretty quick in most areas ive been in......so why is it nobody is blaming apple for not including hsdpa support?(maybe to save some production cost? mind you a software update cannot resolve this)...my hermes100 aka att 8525 supports both and lets me tether it to my laptop to use as a internet connection..and it came out last year and is cheaper as well...although i must admit the iphones screen, browser and interface is very nice from the one i bought for my gf..i just expected more for 599$.....but fact is att offers a faster connection..APPLE chose NOT to add support for it in their phone...so blame them as well...ok macfanbois? | |
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Rob A
Same Old Jets
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join:2005-01-17
Pompton Plains, NJ | Who cares... Leave it with ATT, it's overpriced anyway... | |
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chef423
Chef423
join:2000-09-02
Springfield, IL | iMorons iMorons = anyone who bought the POS iPhone. And better yet, put it on a Credit Card. YOU people are driving America into debet and cost people like ME more money. Fkin idiots. | |
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bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA
·SONIC.NET
| Re: iMorons said by chef423 :iMorons = anyone who bought the POS iPhone. And better yet, put it on a Credit Card. YOU people are driving America into debet and cost people like ME more money. Fkin idiots. Waaaaaaaaaaa! Boohoo! You hurt my feelings! You're so mean!
(Posted from my iPhone, paid off this month)
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Bink63
I want MY Country BACK
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join:2002-10-06
Everywhere
| Re: iMorons said by bobrk :said by chef423 :iMorons = anyone who bought the POS iPhone. And better yet, put it on a Credit Card. YOU people are driving America into debet and cost people like ME more money. Fkin idiots. Waaaaaaaaaaa! Boohoo! You hurt my feelings! You're so mean! (Posted from my iPhone, paid off this month)
My Blackberry 8830 cost less (not that I care, it's a company phone!), is faster and has EVDO.
/neener neener
Regards,
Randy
Posted from my BlackBerry 8830
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join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN
| Buy and ipod video? Anyone doing this if retarded if they buy and iphone and don't use it for calls. Just buy and ipod video if you don't want to make calls, or better yet a dell axim or another pda with wm. All the music and video you want and you don't even have to pay extra for the content. | |
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