 ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium join:2006-12-29 Corona, CA | Cheaper than having to have POTS And decent upload speed for $40. | |
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 |  Mactronel Camino RealPremium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS said by ColorBASIC:And decent upload speed for $40. Only by ~$10-12 than my Metered dial tone & 3000/768 DSL. Plus I have real 911. Reverse 911 is a significant plus when you live down wind of a Nuclear power plant. 
Maybe best of all... No Contract !  -- If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well.  | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS Living down wind from a Nuclear power plant I doubt you're going to have time to call 911 in the event of something happening to it. I live near First Energy's Davis Besse and in the event of anything happening to it my county only has 25 minutes and there's not a chance in hell 911 is going to be a number I'm going to be calling in that 25 minutes. | |
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 |  |  |  Mactronel Camino RealPremium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS Ha, Ha, Ha... Thats funny.
Reverse 911 They call YOU ! Just to wake you up at lets say 3:00 am, and let you know that there's an unpleasant cloud headed your way.  -- If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well.  | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS I still wouldnt be around if i was that 911 agent. Hell i'd be gone. But all Nuclear power plants are suppose to have those loud ass alarm systems that i'm sure you'd be hearing go off if there was a real threat.
And there are some cities that offer this just to their residents. Just not a 911 thing. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  Mactronel Camino RealPremium join:2001-12-16 CM94sv | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS said by hottboiinnc:I still wouldnt be around if i was that 911 agent. Hell i'd be gone. Your Selflessness, Heroic notions and ambitions towards your fellow citizens is noted.  -- If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well.  | |
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 |  |  |  |  DigitalXeronThere is a lack of sanity join:2003-12-17 Hamilton, ON | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS Um... Sorry to be pedantically precise... But this is going to bug me until I say something...
Not all exposure to radiation will kill you... It all depends on the radiation levels and such.. Just don't stay too long in the radiation and you should be relatively fine (if you experience nausea and you know you've been exposed to radiation, get medical help).
Another thing: Reactors that go poof don't usually go up like a nuclear/atomic bomb.. Note: Chernobyl-4, potentially the worst known reactor accident. -- --Kradorex Xeron
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 |  |  |  |  |  | | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS Well sure they don't but the wind blows the radiation quite fast. The winder the day, the quicker you need to get the hell out of dodge. | |
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 |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | $39.99 is NOT naked DSL. You can get verizon DSL + POTS for that. move on, nothing new here. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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 |  |  BOGBSPremium join:2004-05-11 1 edit | Re: Cheaper than having to have POTS I don't know what kind of pricing you have, but I can barely get POTS for that much, and certainly not with 3Mbps at that price. Unless I'm missing some sort of super cheap plan that they never say anything about. | |
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 | | Not much longer I can't take this anymore. Do these companies listen to the customer at all? Why do we deal with this crap? These prices are way to high these days, internet usage has increased so much since the old school AOL, compuserve, and prodigy days. The prices should be similar to long distance phone calls, almost free at this point. Connections should all be symmetrical with none of the "last mile" crap. Everyone should have it regardless of the median income of their neighborhood. I wish FCC would stop selling bandwidth and setup a true north american internet system supported by usa, canada, mexico. | |
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 |  CabalPremium join:2007-01-21 Austin, TX Reviews:
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| Re: Not much longer said by ossito16:I can't take this anymore. Do these companies listen to the customer at all? Why do we deal with this crap? These prices are way to high these days, internet usage has increased so much since the old school AOL, compuserve, and prodigy days. The prices should be similar to long distance phone calls, almost free at this point. Connections should all be symmetrical with none of the "last mile" crap. Everyone should have it regardless of the median income of their neighborhood. I wish FCC would stop selling bandwidth and setup a true north american internet system supported by usa, canada, mexico. This isn't serious, right? -- Interested in open source engine management for your Subaru? | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Not much longer said by Cabal:This isn't serious, right? Sure I am serious. Every morning I read here at DSLr about how some telecom/cable/sat company is crying to the courts or FCC about how they are being treated unfairly. Feeding us lip service through PR companies that they setup to represent them in a positive light. I think landlines are history and cell phones (as well as internet) should be declared a utility and regulated. And that would mean all services available over cell phones would also be part of that utility. Hell, why did the telecoms fight the FCC on allowing us to take our phone number when we went to a competitor. Man I could go on and on, I an just sitting here getting mad. Maybe I need to stop reading DSLr on a daily basis, it is driving me crazy and there seems to be nobody out there on our side. Other than Eliot Spitzer, new governor of New York and ex-attorney general, there seems to be nobody on our side. Hopefully, he does not sell out on us. | |
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 |  RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 La Grange, IL kudos:2 | Yikes.
I am sure every ISP would be thrilled to start charging you by the byte, just like "long distance phone calls".
Be careful what you rant for. | |
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 |  | | said by ossito16:I can't take this anymore. Do these companies listen to the customer at all? Why do we deal with this crap? These prices are way to high these days, internet usage has increased so much since the old school AOL, compuserve, and prodigy days. The prices should be similar to long distance phone calls, almost free at this point. Connections should all be symmetrical with none of the "last mile" crap. Everyone should have it regardless of the median income of their neighborhood. I wish FCC would stop selling bandwidth and setup a true north american internet system supported by usa, canada, mexico. I cant take these socialist anymore! Im buying you a one way ticket to China! | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Not much longer I don't believe that statement is socialist. I look at broadband now the same way I look at electric and telephone. It is a utility that is necessary. Just try finding a job now without internet access, good luck. My last job search was entirely online because the one company out there that included a fax your resume to this number called me back to have me fill out their online application. The job of the government should at least be to protect the public, and leaving one segment out will simply result in them falling further and further behind economically. Oh, and China is communist. Communism is not Socialism. Just like a Democracy is not a Republic. -- Retaking our country one election at a time. | |
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 |  |  |  SylphFiPremium join:2007-06-07 Moses Lake, WA | Re: Not much longer Let's see here:
My last phone bill: $74.43 My last electric bill: $40.36 My last cable bill (TV+Inet): $43.85
I think I'm more concerned with phone prices than Internet prices. My electric bill goes up to the high 60's for 3-4 months of the year, so averaged out it would make my TV and Internet easily the least expensive. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: Not much longer Looks like I need to move to Moses Lake. Here your choices are: DSL 39.95 Cable 39.95
Or in my case until Friday this week: Cable (TV + Internet)89.95
Last Elect/Water $83.00, which is about average. Then again, this is a well insulated one bedroom apartment w/2 people so we don't use much electricity. As for telephone, I use Viatalk, $199 for 2 years. -- Retaking our country one election at a time. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  SylphFiPremium join:2007-06-07 Moses Lake, WA | Re: Not much longer Unfortunately, I have to use a cell phone and lots of anytime minutes, since I do on-site work.
Straight up DSL and Cable Internet prices are $30+, but I got in on a special bundle offer (they normally only take $4 off for bundling) which cut the Internet portion by almost half. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | said by SylphFi:Let's see here: My last phone bill: $74.43 My last electric bill: $40.36 My last cable bill (TV+Inet): $43.85 I think I'm more concerned with phone prices than Internet prices. My electric bill goes up to the high 60's for 3-4 months of the year, so averaged out it would make my TV and Internet easily the least expensive. Right now I am paying RCN $26/mo for 6mbps/384kbps, now that is an introductory price for 12months but I believe it should be this price all the time. Basic cable also comes over the same line if you hook up to your tv, so you have internet/basic cable for $26/mo. If they offered this they could grab a considerable part of the market. A friend of mine was paying over $130 for ComcastHD/Internet, he told them he was switching to DirecTV and they lowered bill to $60. Give me a f'n break, Why wasn't this the price in the first place. If $60 was the price all the time then FIOS would not stand a chance. | |
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 | | AT&T.... are you listenting? Per FCC to allow the merger with Bell South, you are to offer naked DSL. What's going on and what is taking so long? | |
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 |  warriorsIt's A Great Time Out join:2001-06-05 San Jose, CA Reviews:
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| Re: AT&T.... said by Boricua65:are you listenting? Per FCC to allow the merger with Bell South, you are to offer naked DSL. What's going on and what is taking so long? Naked DSL will probably the same price as landlind + DSL anyway. | |
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 |  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | said by warriors:said by Boricua65:are you listenting? Per FCC to allow the merger with Bell South, you are to offer naked DSL. What's going on and what is taking so long? Naked DSL will probably the same price as landlind + DSL anyway. BINGO! we have a winner. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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 |  RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 La Grange, IL kudos:2 | They already offer it. | |
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 |  |  |  d_lBarsoomPremium,MVM join:2002-12-08 Reno, NV kudos:7 | Re: AT&T.... You know that $19.95 rate will only get you 768/128 speeds? | |
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 |  |  |  |  RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 La Grange, IL kudos:2 | Re: AT&T.... He doesn't care...he's been ranting about that for months now. | |
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 jloor join:2001-09-14 New Brunswick, NJ | Not terrible if you do the math, its $27.45/month for the contract period. You can switch or renew a contract after that so your not stuck paying $40/month. Now the question is do they have any install fees or any recovery or FCC monthly fees? | |
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 |  RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 La Grange, IL kudos:2 | Re: Not terrible They are charging for the installation kit, and also mention "access fees", which has the faint aroma of "ups and extras" as Earl Scheib used to day. | |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Regular price not so bad Considering those of us living in former Bellsouth territory are paying $37.99 for 3 Meg and you HAVE to have phone service which at minimum will cost you $17 a month. That's including all fees and taxes. Charter charges $43.99 for 3 Meg. Also the upload for BS 3 Meg is 384 kbps and Charter's is 256 kbps. So $40 for naked DSL 3Mbps/768kbps is pretty good. | |
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 JoelC707Premium join:2002-07-09 West Point, GA kudos:5 | Typo or what? 1.5Mbps/768kbps DSL for $14.95 per month for six months, after which the price skyrockets to $39.95 per month 3Mbps/768kbps service starts at $19.95 for three months, after which it's hiked to $39.95 Anyone else notice the after intro price for those two service levels? Assuming it is not a typo, who would go for the 1.5 service when the 3.0 service is the same cost? This is of course ignoring the fact that the 3.0's intro price is $5 more and only lasts half the time as the 1.5 (3 months vs. 6 months). | |
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 TransitManPremium,MVM join:2000-09-05 Dayton, OH kudos:1 Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
| They Can Offer It Gold Plated............. .........I still won't go for it. Had ELK cable via TWC, and while my connection was good, the price was so-so. When TWC upped my area speed wise, I got to looking and found that for the few bucks I was paying, and then added $10.00 more, I could get RR Premium for a whole lot less than what ELK could offer it for. So away went ELK Cable. Now I'm with TrueVoice, and after having to deal with the idiots in tech (non)support over trying to get my ATA replaced due to a lightning strike (within 1 year of activation, covered by warranty), all because they did not understand what a lightning strike was I ended up taking care of it through Online chat, or so I thought. When the ATA device failed to show in the timeframe alloted, I contacted Custmoer Support for credits due to a non-working line because tech support dropped the ball. Needless to say, within 2 days of that chat I had a refurbed ATA on my front door. "Now about the credit?" Needless to say, I am on my last month with them, and they will be gone for good.
ELK has taken a once respected and viable company and dumped it, not wanting to care about its' customer base, let alone the employees who helped it become a good and once respected company.
And to think I started back in the day with Mindspring.com DSL service oh not so long ago. (2000)
Good-bye EarthLink. Hope you R.I.P. -- PROUD TO BE THE DIRECTOR OF THE CRUNCHENSTEIN ASSOCIATION AND THE HOST OF CRUNCHENSTEIN #2 | |
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 Rob AJets AFC ChampionshipPremium join:2005-01-17 Pompton Plains, NJ | Not bad but... Pricing is too high, customers would just be better off just going staight through verizon. | |
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 |  Lysis join:2005-03-30 Brooklyn, NY | Re: Not bad but... pricing is low - i just over $58 for speakeasy for 1.5/768 $300 cancellation, 1 year contract - i don't think its naked either not sure though.
i am interested in this but the $150 cancellation fee is scary for me, when things go bad and your on tech support with india or in the us - they rarely can do anything if verizon is oversold in the area already and you are screwed and have to pay the cancellation fee or deal with almost dial up speeds during peak hours  | |
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4 edits | Running the numbers here in Los Angeles.... Verizon local measured rate service: $10.00/month $3 allowance per month After allowance, each call billed at 4¢ for the first minute and 1¢ for each additional minute. Calls to exchanges in the ZUM area are billed at 10¢ for the initial minute and 4¢ for each additional minute
Verizon DSL: $19.99/mo. for 1st 6 months ($29.99 for months 7-12) One Year Agreement. 3 Mbps /768 Kbps Free Upgrade to wireless router
Verizon "Naked" DSL Power Plan One Year Agreement $34.99/month 3.0Mbps/768Kbps FREE Combined DSL Modem & Wireless Router
Earthlink "Naked" DSL 3Mbps/768kbps service starts at $19.95 for three months, after which it's hiked to $39.95/month
Let's do the costs for 1 years' service (including phone for the non naked DSL)
PHONE AND DSL: $10.00/month phone service: $120.00 $19.99/month * 6 months $119.94 $29.99/month * 6 months $179.94
TOTAL: $419.88
NAKED DSL VERIZON: $34.99 * 12 months $419.88
TOTAL: $419.88
NAKED DSL EARTHLINK $19.95 * 3 months $ 59.85 $39.95 * 9 months $359.55
TOTAL: $419.40
As you can see, the cost differential between a year of Earthlink Naked DSL and Verizon Naked DSL is only 48 cents...
BUT.....
Verizon measured phone service and DSL COSTS THE SAME as Verizon naked DSL alone!!!
Of course, this doesn't include any taxes...and based upon local telco rates, YMMV....
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 nstarz join:2004-04-07 San Jose, CA | I'm currently at 3 MB for $34.95 I'm currently at 3 MB for $34.95
Date Description Quantity Price Subtotal 07/07/07 Jul 7-Aug 6:DSL Telecom Svc 1.00 $17.00 $17.00 07/07/07 Jul 7-Aug 6:Internet Access 1.00 $17.95 $17.95 Subtotal: $34.95 | |
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