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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | Re: I've Cancelled Vonage Before......... said by I0001110101:And didn't have a problem doing so. That was before Vonage started going in the dumper financially. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
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 |  |  Jim GurdPremium join:2000-07-08 Plymouth, MI | Re: I've Cancelled Vonage Before......... She should have her husband send a certified letter with return receipt to their customer service department demanding cancellation. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: I've Cancelled Vonage Before......... And then call her bank to put a block on any future payments to Vonage. | |
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 |  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | said by ThrowDemsOut:said by I0001110101:And didn't have a problem doing so. That was before Vonage started going in the dumper financially. Has vonage *ever* shown a profit? -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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 |  |  | | I had Vonage when they were giving out mail-in-rebates... I never got mine. Had to argue with them to cancel. Terrible servies. They deserve to go under... | |
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 |  mb join:2000-07-23 Washington, NJ | I cancelled an account about 4 months ago w/o any difficulty once I actually got the retention person on the phone. It did take a while to get to him though. I even came back, so, in my case, no big deal... | |
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 | | Huh? So she emailed DSLR? Sounds right.
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 |  Jerm join:2000-04-10 Richland, WA kudos:2 | Re: Huh? I blame the phone company for making us pay $25 for a 'basic' phone line. | |
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| Re: Huh? said by Jerm:I blame the phone company for making us pay $25 for a 'basic' phone line. I'm paying $17.50 for a basic phone line, with unlisted number.
It's different from market to market, though.... -- Welcome to cat noise Wednsday!! | |
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My bill with Verizon goes like this:
$9.85 - Dial tone one line $7.ish - Caller ID $1.00 - about 10 phone calls $21.+ - Fees and taxes ---------- $40ish for few phone calls
I would like to know how much is Vonage after fee/taxes | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  HRMGod Bless AmericaPremium,MVM join:2002-02-03 Darien, CT kudos:1 | said by Gres7:I would like to know how much is Vonage after fee/taxes Residential Basic 500 Minutes Plan for 1-(203)-xxx-xxxx(21/Jun-20/Jul) $14.99 Regulatory Recovery Fee $0.99 Emergency 911 Cost Recovery $0.99 Sales Tax $1.02 Federal Universal Service Fee $1.01 State 911 Fee $0.40 Total Amount $ 19.40
I hardly ever use this phone, but when I pick it up, it always works. | |
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It's actually $18.26
Dial tone line 6.97 Federal sub. line chg 6.25 Non published line fee 2.75 USF fee .73
Fed excise tax .48 PA relay surcharge 1.00 E911 1.56
Total = 18.26
Now this is a completely stripped down line I use only for incoming calls, and toll free calls. No caller ID, no 3 way, nothing. All calls are charged a per minute rate, and no LD.
If I didn't have the unpublished number (I have the number unpublished due to my profession. Come to think of it, I think I just found a new write off !) The total would be $15.51 a month.
I went back to POTS for 2 reasons. First was my terrible 911 experience with Vonage. Second, I never used my home phone for anything other than 800 calls and 911, so why not get a POTS line and have the reliability of it?
If I had a scanner, I could scan my last bill for you to prove it, but I don't... -- Welcome to cat noise Wednsday!! | |
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 dardin join:2002-11-19 Tucson, AZ 1 edit | Typical policy for any service This is actually a very common policy. Almost every service out there only allows the primary account holder to cancel the service or make other major account changes.
Not to defend the other problems people are having with canceling the service or even to defend this policy. Just pointing out that this is common practice and very typical of any service out there. | |
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 |  ptrowskiGot Helix?Premium join:2005-03-14 Putnam, CT kudos:4 Reviews:
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| Re: Typical policy for any service said by dardin:This is actually a very common policy. Almost every service out there only allows the primary account holder to cancel the service or make other major account changes. Not to defend the other problems people are having with canceling the service or even to defend this policy. Just pointing out that this is common practice and very typical of any service out there. Exactly. Many times when changes or cancellation of service needed to be done, I was told only the primary account holder could make that change. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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 |  | | Absolutely it is and needs to be...having spent many years in customer service i can't tell you how many times a spouse would cancel/attempt to cancel the other spouse's service without authorization just to spite them, because they were going through marital problems, divorce, etc. The husband needs to add the wife as authorized to make changes on the account, it's as simple as that. | |
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 |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Typical policy for any service said by LouiseBowes:Absolutely it is and needs to be...having spent many years in customer service i can't tell you how many times a spouse would cancel/attempt to cancel the other spouse's service without authorization just to spite them, because they were going through marital problems, divorce, etc. The husband needs to add the wife as authorized to make changes on the account, it's as simple as that. Here's the issue. If you read the TOS of just about any agreement, it clearly states that "if any term of this agreement is found unenforceable by law, the rest shall survive"... meaning, they write the terms, generally for the country but different states will have exception to the terms.
Now, I bring you marriage. In many states, both the wife and husband are equally responsible for all bills. The problem with your argument about the spouse is that a marriage joins the two as one - so, in certain states, the wife very much DOES have the right to cancel the service in the husbands name.
MANY call centers make this mistake all the time. Hell, even Comcast here in MN tries to pull that stunt. If the husband sets up the account, they won't talk to the wife unless the husband authorizes her. (which is wrong) On the flip side, they will certainly take advantage, if the bill isn't paid, to zap the wifes credit should the bill not be paid. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  |  |  JammerMan79Premium,VIP join:2004-05-13 Prince George, BC kudos:10 | Re: Typical policy for any service said by fiberguy:said by LouiseBowes:MANY call centers make this mistake all the time. Hell, even Comcast here in MN tries to pull that stunt. If the husband sets up the account, they won't talk to the wife unless the husband authorizes her. (which is wrong) On the flip side, they will certainly take advantage, if the bill isn't paid, to zap the wifes credit should the bill not be paid. Ahhh.. but if the wifes name is not listed as a spouse how do they know the customer is married? It's fully reasonable to have the main account holder as the only authorized person UNLESS they've noted previously that they are indeed married. Otherwise anyone could call in claiming to be their spouse. -- I may work for, but do not necessarily represent the views and beliefs of TELUS Communications. | |
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 |  |  |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 1 edit | Re: Typical policy for any service I can see your point, however, it's not truly reasonable because there are laws that vary from state to state and they always trump company policy. If a company is going to sign up a new customer, I think the responsibility is on the provider to establish that with the customer up front. Why? Because down the road when the account goes south and credit is affected, BOTH the account holder AND spouse are going to be affected, in some states.
Providers like to have their cake and eat it too. On one hand they will refuse the call from the spouse but if the account goes into default or collections, they have no problem going after the other spouse.
Because of this, the CSR should be given a clear and concise way for the spouse to validate themselves to the company be it by coming in person with ID, faxing ID, or some other method.
This is just one of the many challenges that businesses face and I don't side with them on this one. Like I said, like it or not, in some states (here in the U.S.) when you are married, you are ONE PERSON in the eye of the law and it's up to the business to operate in the eyes of the law.
This is all about the joy of marriage.. GOOD *AND* BAD.
Maybe with all this "My spouse is messing with me" that goes on today, just maybe it outlines the need to know the person you're going to marry first instead of jumping into a contract like so many people do today.
I'm honestly one of those people don't don't feel sorry for married people with problems as most of them set their own destination by being irresponsible up front.
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 |  MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL | I concur. It is not news that only the person who owns the account can cancel it. I've dealt with some pretty pissed off customers because the rep did not due his/her job and let the spouse cancel, though the account holder had no intention of cancelling the service. It's their service, they decide if they do/don't want to keep it. | |
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| Re: Typical policy for any service said by Maxo:I concur. It is not news that only the person who owns the account can cancel it. I've dealt with some pretty pissed off customers because the rep did not due his/her job and let the spouse cancel, though the account holder had no intention of cancelling the service. It's their service, they decide if they do/don't want to keep it. Exactly again. If not anyone could call in and make changes or cancel, and then you would see that on the front page. -- "A religious war is like children fighting over who has the strongest imaginary friend."
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But if a spouse called to ADD a service, you can bet they will have NO problem doing that. | |
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This repeated 3 times, each time the companies assured me no one but me would be able to turn them off. Even setup passwords, but it seems since she knew my SSN and DOB, she got around them. Even filed police reports, sent them to each company, and still she was able to do it.
The only way I was able to put a stop to it was by switching everything over to my roommates name. -- Intel Quad Core QX6700 @3500Mhz/Asus P5N32-E SLI/4x 1024Mb Corsair/WD 74Gb Raptor/PNY 7800GTs SLI/Antec 550 True Control/Custom water cooler | |
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 |  |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | Re: Typical policy for any service said by Camelot One:Several years ago I found myself PRAYING for this type of policy. My ex called the gas, electric, and phone companies and put in a shut off order, for a friday afternoon. I came home from work to find everything off. (Indiana winters are VERY cold without heat) This repeated 3 times, each time the companies assured me no one but me would be able to turn them off. Even setup passwords, but it seems since she knew my SSN and DOB, she got around them. Even filed police reports, sent them to each company, and still she was able to do it. The only way I was able to put a stop to it was by switching everything over to my roommates name. OUCH! sounds like that divorce was bitter. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Typical policy for any service Bitter on her end anyway. | |
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 |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | "Ex" wife? or "ex" girlfriend?
If she was your Ex-wife (and I don't know the laws in your state) then I would have either called the police or an attorney. Either way, I would have done that. I hope you did. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: Typical policy for any service Ex-girlfriend. No name sharing, no legal partnership of any kind. Hell she wasn't even on the lease. | |
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 | | Yeah yeah Screw POts. I'll pay cheap, since people are stupid and don't know how to use VOIP 1/2 the time. I never got one problem with my Vonage service hmmm... | |
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 RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | Its usually the credit card holder... ...who has the power to administer the account, being the legally responsible party. I wonder who is paying the account.
If Vonage refuses to play ball, call the CC fraud number and report any further charges as unauthorized. That'll get their attention. | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: Its usually the credit card holder... I have to agree with you.
If you've ever tried to work out a billing issue with a company that you STILL do business with, file a dispute with the CC company after failing the attempt to work it out on your own, ... just see how fast they will suspend or pull the plug. -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 rileyjam514There You Go Again... join:2005-06-26 Kearny, NJ | Common, but easy to get around... I used to work for their cancellations department and I told people who brought stuff like that to my attention to just log into the account while I was on the line with them and change the name on the account to reflect both spouses. Nine times out of ten, that fixed things and we could proceed with whatever they needed. When that didn't work, the user usually hung up before we could do anything else.
And in case you were wondering, this was done with my manager's approval. -- Abortion is murder, Reagan was a hero, Clinton was a sleazeball, Iraq is much better off without Saddam, and the telcos are not trustworthy with American tax dollars. There! I've managed to offend a significant portion of BBR! | |
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 chef4231Chef423 join:2000-09-02 Springfield, IL | devils no wonder other cultures hate us..look at the sour crap that goes on just so someone can make a buck. Oh well US, u had your chance. Business in teh States is like selling your soul. It will all be over soon enough tho... | |
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 |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 | Re: devils said by chef4231:It will all be over soon enough tho... ... oh? Care to share something with us that we don't know yet? -- "Complaining is the least path of resistance for the self-serving, the lazy, and Im told its a womans prerogative..." | |
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 | | Vonage Disconnection really a hassle ooh it was an nightmare. i was led thru hoops for days before they finally cancelled. you need this you need that get an auth number fomr the company that ported the number. they are really bad | |
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 ajrosenPremium join:2005-04-21 Buffalo, NY | Terrible customer service abounds After my father passed away, my mother had loads of problems with her Verizon account (I know - this is a Vonage story, but it's still a good example of how crazy customer service is). Because of all the funeral and family/friends phone calls, her usage skyrocketed, so she got a huge overage charge. First, they wouldn't even tell her what plan she was on, because the plan was under my dad's name. Then after someone took pity on her, they wouldn't let her make changes to the plan. After asking more than once to have my father call in and authorize her, then asking for copies of the death certificate, I had her tell them to just cancel the account, as since she wasn't authorized to make changes she obviously wasn't responsible for payment either and they can just deal with the unpaid bills. Of course, after hearing that they quickly authorized her on the account. That kept her from losing her phone number by starting up a new account.
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 ColorBASIC8-bit FunPremium join:2006-12-29 Corona, CA | Common It's stops disgruntled (ex) spouses from canceling your telephone service. A friend of mine went through this with Cox Digital Telephone.
Of course that isn't the real reason the whores at Vonage do it. They couldn't care less about customer service. Rather they're skilled at being a Roach Motel for unsuspecting customers. -- Macintosh Users Group Serving the Inland Empire | |
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 HealbotPremium join:2003-07-16 Vancouver, WA | sigh go out of business already and stop holding customers hostage. | |
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 | | Die Vonage Die Dead by December.
This is just their last gasp trying to keep people from cancelling. -- »hacktheiphone.com | |
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 |  | | Re: Die Vonage Die yeah, they gave me a hard time cancelling last Oct/Nov. Apparently, if you port your number to another carrier, they don't cancel your account. You still pay the $xx.xx per month regardless of there being no number associated with it. They canceled it but still wanted to keep my money...
One on-line request to AMEX set them straight...that is why I use that card for recurring payments...they defend you pretty much all the time if someone is trying to screw you over. | |
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 |  |  | | Re: Die Vonage Die lol only the originator can close the account...
customer= Id like to close my account. vonage= the account isnt in your name. customer= i know its my husband vonage= sorry only your husband can close it customer= uh he's dead how the F do you expect him to close it ? vonage= then we'll require a death certificate customer= where do i send it ? vonage= hold please ~insert hold music or lame commercia here~ Vonage= customer service how may i help you...
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 | | 3 Weeks to Cancel Vonage is BRUTAL!
I cancelled with Vonage about 3 months ago and it probably took me three weeks to get the account cancelled. All other phone services have been no problem cancelling and they even effective dated the change to the date you switched and refunded the rest of my payment, something Vonage won't do as they say the "CHARGE" is for the month. Vonage had all kinds of excuses like saying I would lose my number even though it had already been transferred to Comcast and we were receiving calls on it just fine. Calls in the evening put me on hold for an hour one time. One person finally told me to call early in the morning and I did and got through in about 5 minutes. While I would have considered coming back under the right circumstances, the bad experience I had trying to cancel was the end of my association with Vonage. Good Riddance!!!!! | |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ kudos:4 | The easy way Sign up with a prepaid credit card and when you want to bail, quit reloading the card and it works out naturally. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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 agill81 join:2007-02-26 Aliso Viejo, CA | Easy solution You can do one or all of the following....
1) Send a certified return receipt letter to Vonage stating you wish to cancel.
2) After you send the letter...and if they charge your credit card, MasterCard/visa debit card you can file an unauthorized charge with your issuing bank and state to them that you had canceled and provide the certified return receipt letter to prove that you had canceled.
3) Or cancel your card you have on file with them, and let it cancel that way.
PROBLEM SOLVING! | |
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 |  joakoPremium join:2000-09-07 /dev/null kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Re: Easy solution Stamps.com I canceled the card and then they said I owed them $200 more than a year later when I wanted to officially cancel the account (somehow I had more than 1). I told them to leave the account open. -- Am Heimcomputer sitz' ich hier, und programmier' die Zukunft mir | |
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 |  | | The certified, return-receipt trick works every time. Make copies of everything before you mail it and reference the certified return-receipt # in the letter and you'll find a very quick and efficient response. AND it'll take far less time & effort than hanging on hold & wrestling with the reps for 45 minutes. | |
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 |  |  nullmn join:2003-09-09 Mission Viejo, CA | Re: Easy solution Hi!
Anyone know the mailing address for sending a certified letter to Vonage? I can't find it on their site.
Thanks, Nick | |
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732.528.2600 732.834.0189 (fax) | |
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 | | Cancellation Headaches Here we go again about the same crap we have already been over time and time again.  | |
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 JEJE 's BACK BABYPremium join:2000-12-15 East Orange, NJ | vonage is a disgrace!
After I ported my number to Optimum Voice, I was still being charged from Vonage! Afters eons of trying to contact them, I finally was told that even though I ported out, Vonage does not CANCEL your account; that one must call in to cancel the service themselves. I still owe Vonage $20 for svc billed that I will not pay! ONCE YOU PORT OUT, HOW ARE YOU PAYING FOR A SERVICE THAT NO LONGER WORKS ON THEIR SYSTEM?
JE -- BLAZIN' FAST OOL @: 27.883/4.7233 Can Your ISP Go This FAST? VRoOoOoOoOm! -- I Have: ZA Suite 6.0.631.003 | ICQ: 16705298 | YaHoo IM: Gemini365i | AOLIM: EdGei365i | FWD#: 452620 | VoIP#: Hmmm... |
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You may be seeking protection from your spouse if you don't wait on hold again to hand him the phone when your rep answers. | |
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| I miss Vonage... Really I had vonage for about 8 months. Never had problems and only downtime was because of cable internet outage. The 24.99 price is not what you pay its more like 33 dollars but still a steal. I actually got a better offer from cablevision 14.95 month. When i canceled they tried to AOL me as in coming up with scams to keep me. They even asked me to ship my VOIP adapter to my mother in Puerto Rico. After i told them where my mom lives they still use the telegraph they relented and let me out. | |
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 |  vipermCarpe DiemPremium join:2002-07-09 Winchester, CA | Re: I miss Vonage... Really I dont understand people signed up online and pay with a credit card????? just go to your online account change the CC number to something bogus and save it then they can not charge you even change the address to Vonages address?
You think they are going to come after you??
They dont have your Social or anything other then an address and vonage phone #
Change your name and address etc do you think they are going to spend hundreds or thousands of dollares to come find you for $30?
Or just keep paying till they go belly up?
Quit yer bitchen and just think outside the box! -- ComTrain Certified Tower Climber. American Tower Certified approved contractor | |
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I to had the same problem with canceling my vonage service. I had service since Jan 05 canceled July 07. and they gave me the excuse of 3rd party not being able to cancel, I ported my # from vonage to verizon voicewing. so i went 2 months on the bill for nothing and they still refuse to credit me the 2 months. its finally canceled but i ended up eating that 50.00. but i feel your guys's pain on vonage. | |
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