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4 edits | My opinion? Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband.
How about the War?
How about excessive spending?
Excessive taxes?
So-So Security?
Iran?
Illegal immigration?
Jobs?
Energy?
Terrorism?
Education?
Inflation?
Housing market?
Crime?
Healthcare?
Tort reform?
The Sen. has far more important issues to deal with.
It's no wonder that Congress' approval ratings are at a record low.
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| Re: My opinion? said by ColorBASIC  :Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband. How about the War? How about excessive spending? Excessive taxes? So-So Security? Iran? Illegal immigration? Jobs? Energy? Terrorism? Inflation? Housing market? Crime? Healthcare? Tort reform? I think the Sen. has enough to do without worrying about broadband. It's no wonder that Congress' approval ratings are at a record low. We've been discussing the items you listed for over a decade now, and I predict we'll be discussing them for the next decade to come. Let's focus on something that is possible, like a national broadband plan.
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2 edits | Re: My opinion? A national broadband plan is impossible.
They can't even put together an energy plan which is infinitely more important.
They can't get any plan together other than raising their salaries and kissing the ass of Mexico and China. That they can get done.
Any effort that Congress is going to waste should be on something important and in the list of stuff to do...worrying about broadband is at the very bottom.
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| Re: My opinion? said by ColorBASIC :A national broadband plan is impossible. They can't even put together an energy plan which is infiniately more important. They can't get any plan together other than raising their salaries and kissing the ass of Mexico and China. That they can get done. Any effort that Congress is going to waste should be on something important and in the list of stuff to do...worrying about broadband is at the very bottom. Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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ColorBASIC
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| Re: My opinion? We already know everything we need to know regarding fixing every problem on that list.
Problem is what you say...they're too busy engaging in a pissing contest or taking money from people who don't want these problems solved.
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| Re: My opinion? said by Karl Bode :If we just focused on purging corruption, cronyism, and influence peddling I'd bet half of your list of problems would begin to fix themselves.... That's like trying to get the oxygen out air and still trying to breathe. Government will never be free of corruption, cronyism (which isn't bad by itself) or influence peddling. | |
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join:2000-03-02 | Re: My opinion? Obviously we're talking a matter of degree....were it true we couldn't at least improve things on this front, we might as well start the armed revolution now, and skip the next 100 years of slow slide..... | |
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| Re: My opinion? said by Karl Bode :Obviously we're talking a matter of degree.... Well... the only problem with cronyism is that there is a tendency to put people into jobs for which they are not qualified, but if any president (or governor or mayor, etc.) doesn't hire people who are political allies for these jobs, then how would said elected official get his/her agenda implemented?
To put it more simply, here's a quote from "Big" Frank Rizzo, one of the last great mayors of Philadelphia, regarding cronyism:
"Who the hell you want me to give 'em to...my enemies?"
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| Re: My opinion? Simple. Appoint the best people possible and you'll create your allies as you go along. There are plenty of qualified people on both sides of the aisle.
Look at what happens when you appoint people on cronyism though. My home state of Illinois is a prime example of that.
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| Re: My opinion? said by Paladin :There are plenty of qualified people on both sides of the aisle. It doesn't work that way. When Bush became president he made the mistake of retaining many people who had been appointed by Clinton. We now have one of the most dysfunctional federal governments in modern history as a result.
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| People (especially those with large amount of staffers) can do more than one (or several) thing(s) at a time.
Congress's approval ratings are at record lows because they were largely elected to stop a war, that they have no power to stop (short of a double impeachment, that would be completed just before the two clowns leave office anyway). Also the majority parties have a smaller margin than ever, so anything remotely partisan (like reversing anything done in the last decade) will be deadlocked.
War? - Executive power
Spending? - Deadlocked
Taxes? - Lowest they've been during war time EVER. so umm.
Security? - Deadlocked
Iran? - Executive power
Immigration? - Deadlocked
Jobs? - 6% used to be considered min unemployment, we're at 4.5%
Energy? - Deadlocked
Terrorism? - See war and security
Education? - Well, they're going to make it more expensive to get a loan through the FFELP program soon.
Inflation? - Except for Food & Energy, at all time lows.
Housing? - Actually things have now been tightened down pretty well thanks to congressional hearing with the federal agencies that had the regulatory power already. That's not going to save all the people that didn't read what they were getting, lied about their income, or where duped by a mortgage broker (who aren't regulated, on a state by state basis); nor should it. Otherwise they'll be rewarding excessive risk taking.
Crime? - National average are still pretty darn low.
Healthcare? - No good solution, yet.
Tort Reform? - Yikes.. | |
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| Re: My opinion? said by Ahrenl :People (especially those with large amount of staffers) can do more than one (or several) thing(s) at a time. Congress's approval ratings are at record lows because they were largely elected to stop a war, that they have no power to stop (short of a double impeachment, that would be completed just before the two clowns leave office anyway). Also the majority parties have a smaller margin than ever, so anything remotely partisan (like reversing anything done in the last decade) will be deadlocked. War? - Executive power Spending? - Deadlocked Taxes? - Lowest they've been during war time EVER. so umm. Security? - Deadlocked Iran? - Executive power Immigration? - Deadlocked Jobs? - 6% used to be considered min unemployment, we're at 4.5% Energy? - Deadlocked Terrorism? - See war and security Education? - Well, they're going to make it more expensive to get a loan through the FFELP program soon. Inflation? - Except for Food & Energy, at all time lows. Housing? - Actually things have now been tightened down pretty well thanks to congressional hearing with the federal agencies that had the regulatory power already. That's not going to save all the people that didn't read what they were getting, lied about their income, or where duped by a mortgage broker (who aren't regulated, on a state by state basis); nor should it. Otherwise they'll be rewarding excessive risk taking. Crime? - National average are still pretty darn low. Healthcare? - No good solution, yet. Tort Reform? - Yikes.. To be more specific, the reason immigration is deadlocked is because the general public raised holy you know what over the immigration bill once it was obvious what was in it. All the Democrats need to do to pass that bill is vote as a party in the House and Senate and it passes (Bush said he would sign bill). But the Democrats can't even do that, because they were threatened to be voted out of office (so were Republicans who wanted to vote for it).
This is the first time I can remember ever seeing the public uproar in such masses that senators and congressman/woman backed down, knowing there would be you know what to pay election time. | |
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| Re: My opinion? IT seems to me it was raised by the vocal minority, as usual.
The only thing I heard was some politico speak about amnesty, which refuses to come to grips with the fact that there's no possible way to deport 12,000,000 people, especially when you don't even know where they are. If you can't deport them, you can either criminalize them, or legalize them, those are your only two choices. I believe there are ~2,000,000 institutional criminals in the U.S. as of the last census, so that would be increasing that number by 6 TIMES. Considering we can't even issue a passport to a regular citizen within a 3 month window, I think they're here to stay.
The best solution I've heard is to create something like the French Foreign Legion, where you can serve in the army for X number of years (with other immigrants) to gain your citizenship. We have 160,000 troops in Iraq. Imagine if we could send a couple million Legionaries over.. Two problems solved. They'd come back hero's and citizens, with a citizenship they'd have earned. | |
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| Re: My opinion? said by Ahrenl :The only thing I heard was some politico speak about amnesty, which refuses to come to grips with the fact that there's no possible way to deport 12,000,000 people, especially when you don't even know where they are. LOL funny. If this was any other criminal problem, say rampant murder or child abuse, politicians would be having a group orgy to figure out how to solve it. The pols who throw out the "we can't deport them all" tripe are simply saying they are for amnesty without using so many words.
12 million people cannot be deported overnight, but they can be still be deported.
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| Re: My opinion? It's easy to deport them. You simply put in prison any employer who hires them, any gov't worker who helps them, any officer of a corporation extending them credit and any landlord who rents to them. All non-emergency aid to an illegal should be a felony.
They'll go home tomorrow when they have no job, no free money, and no place to live.
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: My opinion? AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! | |
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| said by Ahrenl :Congress's approval ratings are at record lows because they were largely elected to stop a war, that they have no power to stop (short of a double impeachment, that would be completed just before the two clowns leave office anyway). The Democrat party only won Congress because many idiot "conservatives" decided to stay home during the last election. On the other hand, Democrats always come out to vote in droves because they need all the money the government provides to them.
Congress could stop the war tomorrow if it wanted to. All it needs to do is defund the war. While this might be hard in the Senate, it would be trivially easy to do in the House. If Congress is supposed to end the war, why hasn't the House at least cut off funding for it?
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| Re: My opinion? said by KoolMoe :You know very well why - because the Republicans fire-up their excellent PR machine ... Are you serious? We have one of the best economies ever and actual progress is being made in Iraq, yet we keep hearing we are practically in a depression and Americans are being killed on the streets of Baghdad by the millions.
said by KoolMoe :So, yeah, it's ultimately the Democrats lack of cohones for bowing under such political pressure ... Sure it is. HRH Pelosi keeps reminding us that Congress represents the "will of the people." Surely if so many people want the war de-funded, Congress would have been able to do it, with a veto-proof majority no less.
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| Re: My opinion? "Best economies ever" completely depends on how you look at it, as you know. Sure, some things look pretty good - record stock market highs, less-than-expected inflation (in some sectors) - on the surface. But you KNOW that the debt we're incurring is not anything close to a 'best economy ever'. And maybe you're making great money, but I know quite a few struggling folks (and not because they buy Big TVs).
As far as Iraq, I know it's pointless to be realistic with a cheerleader, but it's almost impossible NOT to show some sort of progress in Iraq considering the depths to which our progress has sunk.
Heck, I got an 'D' in high school physics my first semester. But when I got a 'D+' the next semester, I was making actual progress!
I'm sure there are positive things happening in Iraq but I think it's pretty evident and plain, despite blind hope, that our efforts there have been horribly managed and are much closer to 'failure' than 'success'.
Republicans, before their majority was tossed-out (why?), said Americans wanted Social Security reform...but they couldn't get it done. Why not?
Democrats do not have a veto-proof majority, just as the Republicans did not...and again, you know this.
I'm not quite sure why people think there is still any sort of majority support for this administration and it's handling of Iraq. How badly do things have to get before their pure incompetence is understood? *Regardless* of whether it was right or wrong to 'liberate' in the first place, this administration has to be the worst bunch of managers ever.
I agree, Congress should be able to 'de-fund' the war. The President should face reality and work with them before it even comes to that. But politics again trumps actual reason and support of our country and its people.
Rather shameful...just like the posturing and postings in this forums, like yours, that mislead and misconstrue the true issues.
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| Re: My opinion? Well said, KM. I have to admit that I've never been so ashamed of my government in my entire life.
Eventually, things will look up. We'll be able to put food on our families, human beings and fish kind will be able to coexist peacefully, and we'll finally solve the nation's energy problems by enacting an energy bill that encourages consumption. | |
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| How about the War?-endless debates, posturing, and gridlock not enough for you?
How about excessive spending?-so long as their constituents keep getting pork projects, no one will care enough about excessive spending.
Excessive taxes?-huh? ask Canadians or Swedes about excessive taxes.
So-So Security?-I agree with you on this one; the governments' primary mission is to protect our border, which is something they have failed miserably at.
Iran?-at least we're talking to them now. Imagine the Cold War without the behind the scenes diplomacy.
Illegal immigration?-see above on "so so security"
Jobs?-this is a sticky widget; there appears to be lots of work for those who want it-but little long term security, and benefits continue to be a nationwide issue.
Energy?-so long as big Oil is "big Oil", our energy policy will be pretty much the same.
Terrorism?-really, where are the parties responsible for 9-11?
Education?-don't believe the hype, this isn't as bad as the media would portray it. it's bad, but it can be fixed. the choices to do so aren't easy, or cheap-but it can be fixed.
Inflation?-I'm with you on this one. Everyone pretends it doesn't exist, but it surely does.
Housing market?-Perhaps this "market correction" was long overdue.
Crime?-More cops, please.
Healthcare?-Unless "Big Medicine" and "Big Insurance" are removed from the cost structure of this equation, this will continue to be an issue.
Tort reform?-how about "law reform" on pretty much all levels. The whole system appears corrupt, inept, and out of touch with reality. | |
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1 edit | Re: My opinion? said by TScheisskopf :I agree. How dare he, or anyone, even think of trying to make anything one bit better. Problem is...all they do is talk.
Congress never DOES anything.
And if they do, there are FAR more important things to do FIRST before low latency broadband.
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| Re: My opinion? Congress spends time on many issues. Frankly, I think that congrss turning its attention to the telecom industry is something that is long overdue. I hope we see more of it.
They are already working on the other subjects, by an large. If it's going too slow for you, well, in the government that is called "deliberation" and in business, "due diligence".
And then, of course, there is "obstruction"... | |
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2 edits | Re: My opinion? The problem is that Congress was more worried about Howard Stern and Terry Schiavo and is now more worried about giving rights to illegals and engaging in pissing contests than it is about energy, healthcare and the trade deficit.
With so many problems in gov't, the economy and in the world, low latency broadband (since SRS is available to nearly 100% of Americans) is not something Congress should be concerned with.
And the problem is Congress folks spend time holding photo op press conferences on many issues while actually doing NOTHING to solve them and Sen. Turbin is one of those who does this sorta nonsense often.
In the surveys of what is of immediate importance to Americans I never see broadband on this list. What I see is immigration, the ecomony, healthcare.
Congress should spend 100% of its efforts there until they are solved. THEN worry about trivial nonsense like low latency broadband.
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| said by ColorBASIC :Congress never DOES anything. The country is by far better off when Congress does nothing. I'll applaud the Democrat party if they accomplish 0 during this session of Congress.
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Corona, CA | Re: My opinion? That's true. It was great during the last gov't shut down. Less traffic. | |
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| Try A Lame Duck President and A republican Congress that have had 5 years of absolute power to run this country but have made a mess of it. Not to mention, these same Republicans have not had a Plan in Iraq or an exit Strategy. When the Democrats try to make a move, Bush shoots it down, full well and knowing, his cronies won't let the bills advance. Even if they did, he would veto them and there isn't a 2/3rds majority to overrule them.... So ya, Congress is hated because Bush won't let anything happen. Might as well focus on issues that can be solved versus one's that Bush won't let go anywhere. | |
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pnh102
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| said by ColorBASIC :Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband. Don't tell him that, he might compare you to the Nazis, Stalin and Pol Pot.
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| said by ColorBASIC :Is Sen. Turbin has a lot more to worry about in Washington than broadband. How about the War? How about excessive spending? Excessive taxes? So-So Security? Iran? Illegal immigration? Jobs? Energy? Terrorism? Education? Inflation? Housing market? Crime? Healthcare? Tort reform? The Sen. has far more important issues to deal with. It's no wonder that Congress' approval ratings are at a record low. Along with abortion those are issues they usually discuss when they are in the 'kill time' mode. I prefer they discuss something realistic rather than a dog and pony show of which they all know nothing productive will get accomplished. | |
| | surrrfur
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Lewisberry, PA | I'll second that. Congress needs to start taking care of business and especially those items mentioned, and then worry about broadband. | |
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Here | my predictions.... Everyone will demand that internet access be cheaper and faster and more readily available.
They won't propose how this is to be done other than some nebulous idea dealing with the way they think economics and the telecom work. | |
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| | Ahrenl
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Unless they changed the article between when I read it and you posted. | |
| | apollo80
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| said by BillRoland :Isn't Harry Reid (D-NV) the Senate Majority Leader? All of that changes if Joe Lieberman decides to vote with the Republicans. He seemes tempted to do so, since the Dems are going WAY far Left. | |
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| Re: ? No farther left than what the country wants.
Or have you not seen the most recent polls:
»www.pollingreport.com/
Just because Bill O'Loofah, OxyRush, Hannity, Beck, Boortz, Savage Weiner and the other B-List Dwarves *say* they are farther left than Guevara's left gluteal protruberance doesn't make it so. Those klownish klowns have a narrative to peddle and peddle it they will, in the face of any competing logic offered. After all, they gotta eat. Especially Rush, apparently. When he isn't sending the housekeeper for take-out.
And before you say "But! But! I don't see broadband mentioned in those polls!", remember: You gotta ask the question before you get an answer. How you ask the question is also important.
Personally, I see broadband as becoming the premier access medium for communications and information for both individuals and businesses. I also see a culture of haves and have-nots, because the big telcos are doing way too little in the way of capital investment, instead playing in the mergers and acquisitions arena. And I see it as a very worthy subject for congressional attention. I don't give a monkey's crusty one if it causes apoplexy in shills, astroturfers, putative libertarians, right wing frothers and knee-jerk congressional critics. It's still important. Very important, if for no other reason than it puts the telcos and cablecos on notice that someone is paying attention.
Oh, and a prediction: 2009. Lieberman gets a cozy new office. In the senate office building basement. One that used to be a mud sink/broom closet. He also gets a lot of time to think great thoughts, considering he no longer will have to worry about those bothersome committee meetings. Since he ain't on none no mo'. He and his one staffer will have a grand time down there in their new and intimate surroundings. | |
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| Re: ? That would change fast if Lieberman went to the R's. They'd elevate him just to try to look much more moderate than they are. I don't see him going there, you might want it, but it isn't going to happen.
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| Re: say what????? said by ShadowMastr :We're in trouble when public opinion is asked for?? I thought we'd all like to have more input..... No, we're not in trouble when the public is asked their opinion. We're in trouble when asking the public seems like a revolutionary idea. After all, the usual Washington policy making decision process involves a lot of back rooms and lobbyists. | |
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1 edit | Re: say what????? And yet when I offer opinions to Senators there is either no reply or a reply pointing out that I'm not one of their constituents.
Never trust the senate when it is being lead by "Harry & Dick" | |
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| We sold out to the devils The phone and cable companies are only delivering just enough.
Your never going to see anything revolutionary from them unless its for big $$$$.
The last mile is a problem.
Freeing the radio spectrum and stopping the auctioning off and taking hostage the spectrum would be a big boost.
A low cost wimax/cell network would be nice. Radio should never cost as much as a wired network. | |
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| a lot of people don't want this to be discussed in lieu of "more important" topics.
If you are familiar with the "news" then you would know that the congress wasts plenty of time debating much more useless and insignificant issues other than this. how much time did "Tubes" stevens spend talking about his bridge to nowhere? everyone else has pet projects too that take up senate time.
At least this guy is trying. or appears to be trying. I at least think you should give him a chance instead of just saying he should be more worried about poor housing for single mothers. There is always something more important to someone. | |
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| Re: a lot of people No, you misunderstand:
If Durbin was a Republican, respondents here would be singing hosannas of praise in his name.
But he's not, so praising him fits neither their job description or their idealogy.
I mean, after all, why should be try to make the broadband situation in the US one bit better? Aren't the incumbents and cablecos doing an absolutely DIVOON job?
Well, aren't they?
Memo to Karl: Try an experiment sometime. Next time a Democrat does something even vaguely like this, "make a mistake" and put in a Republican congresscritter and let's see what happens.  | |
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| Can you say "statewide franchise" Governor Blag-bag-a-vitch recently signed the state franchise bill here in Illinois. Durbin didn't say a word when his home state government passed the filthy bill. Excuse me if I take his words with a grain of salt.
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1 edit | Re: Can you say "statewide franchise" The Illinois deal was really a good one.
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Oh did i mention, the upstream should raised. national upload should be at minimum 3mbps cable, 896kbps DSL(due to tech limit), satellite (should just go away)
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David
Last man standing
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join:2002-05-30
Granite City, IL
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| Personally, I kind of changed my shift from a broadband policy to a health care policy. I mean what good is a fast connection to Youtube to bitch about health care failing in America, when I could sacrifice a broadband policy for health care reform or universal health care.
It makes no sense to post a Youtube video at 15mbps/2mbps when you are dying or denied coverage and need a prescription and told to shell out $75 a month for it.
I didn't have to look any further in changing my view than my sister-in-law. She makes $7.50 an hour (oh yes) working at a gas station with no health insurance, and a $800 car she drives. She became sick sometime last year (had to get an appendix removed) and the surgery alone was $12k by the time the fees and everything hit. Want an idea what the state told her when she applied for aid. At a whopping $18k (full time) last year she made too much money, and was denied Medicare or medicade something like that. Least Anderson hospital was nice enough to help her fill out the paperwork, I mean they really helped a lot! I read the state's response and my response was pretty much was like "is that all?" . Needless to say the sarcasm cannon was fired up quite a bit that night.
I look at it about like this. If I had 500 billion a year to spend on either broadband or healthcare, and I couldn't change that decision again for potentially up to 15 yrs, what would the choice be? I know a few people in these forums like lev , RadioDoc , santy , and many others I met at the BBQ a few summers ago have the clock ticking against them (no offense guys  ). I am sure they realize it, and hope it changes too. Not everyone can be 21-33 again with a snap of the fingers. People get older and time marches on, that's two things that will never change.
I guess I should be glad I am a tech and not a politician. This was my thought tonight.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| Re: Personally, said by David :I could sacrifice a broadband policy for health care reform or universal health care. We already have universal healthcare. Anyone can walk into a hospital ER and get healthcare at zero cost to them.
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Maxo
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| Re: Personally, said by pnh102 :said by David :I could sacrifice a broadband policy for health care reform or universal health care. We already have universal healthcare. Anyone can walk into a hospital ER and get healthcare at zero cost to them. Sweet! Show me where to sign up because I've got a pretty expensive (but routine) operation coming up.
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join:2004-05-10
Menlo Park, CA | Re: Personally, don't get your hopes up, there is no universal heath care. There is TALK of universal health care but it is nowhere to be found, with some exception to NH and MA, but even that isn't UHC. | |
| mshewitt
join:2007-05-19
Sarasota, FL
|  "How do you eat an Elephant?"
Broadband is the delivery system for the Internet - the "Equalizer" - with the introduction of the Community Broadband act of 2007 we need aggressive legislation and policy makers to take leadership and restore core Infrastructure to us everyday folks.
I applaud Senator Durbin's approach to reach the public - it is now our responsibility to provide feedback and energy in the form of Public Opinion - which is the only true power at the end of the day.
More here --> »blog.telephony.net | |
| ddpardue
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join:2007-01-07
Hattiesburg, MS
|  Broadband wins
If it weren't for broadband, most of you wouldn't be able to voice your political opinions on this non-political "broadband " forum. I think this is entirely the wrong venue for political discussions. There are lots of political forums out there. Go tell them your concerns and suggestions. Don't just whine about them here.
I come here for broadband discussions, not politically incorrect whining!
Anyone see Google's CEO's proposal for the new auction? Read it, it makes a lot of sense and would provide much need wireless access for the many other players besides the "BIG 3". If you want to see some progress in America, contact your Congressman and the FCC in support of Goggle's plan for the auction. It would force who ever wins the auction, and the bandwidth, to provide access to all competitors at reasonable commercial rates, instead of sitting on it to prevent any form of competition to wireline providers. As a small local WISP, that means I would have access to major bandwidth to compete with the big boys, and so would the 2500 or so other WISP's around the country. Which means more of America would be covered with broadband. Now there's something to gewt excited about!! | |
| | DemonChicken
join:2006-10-15
Boon, MI | Re: Broadband wins Heres a broadband plan, instead of paying the phone companies/Cable companies to build. Make THEM do it. ATT could cover a lot more then they do now. | |
| ipzedge
join:2007-07-28
Jamestown, CA | monopolize the technology We don't need the government to build out High Speed Internet access,
what we do need is for the government to protect the good guys from
the bad guys that want to monopolize the technology | |
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Apathy sucks.
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