  ok597
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 |   punker deleted by moderator Premium join:2004-06-21 Palmdale, CA clubs: | Re: Qwest u know qwest was AT$T | |
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| Re: Qwest said by punker :u know qwest was AT$T Qwest[qworst] once was US West[US worst] which was A T & T. All the phone companies were at one time ATT. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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@sprintlink.net | Re: Qwest Actually, no, not all phone companies were part of AT&T. There are still many independent phone companies, some as small as a few hundred lines. | |
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wow Qwest is big Big geographically. But in population covered they are smaller than the other telcos. Verizon has much less territory, but more population in the N.E. Corridor.
With a lower density population, Qwest's cost per user are higher than the other telcos.
Qwest 15 million landlines Verizon 30 million landlines AT&T 32 million landlines
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 |   djrobx
join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA | That map is misleading. It makes it appear as though Qwest is the only phone company in say, Washington, or that AT&T is the only phone company in California, when Verizon has territories in both places! | |
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 |   dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ | said by ok597 :
wow Qwest is big LOL. see how much of the country ISN'T going to be getting fios. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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  AnonProxy Proxy of Anon Premium join:2001-05-12 ß | AT&T SUCKS They should have to take out ads in every major newspaper offering this service | |
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 |   en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | Re: AT&T SUCKS I agree... however, big corp gets its way. With the exception that this is a legal agreement, you're typically hard up to find the 'lite' versions of cable Internet either unless you threaten to leave. | |
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join:2002-08-13 Imperial, MO
| said by AnonProxy :They should have to take out ads in every major newspaper offering this service Why would any sane business advertise the fact that you can purchase LESS of their services? -- What's certain about Darwinism is that it would take less time for (1) a single-celled organism to evolve into a human being through mutation and natural selection than for (2) Darwinists to admit they have no proof of (1) - Ann Coulter | |
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join:2000-08-18 Glendale, CA | whom are they kidding i dont understand how naked dsl would cost more than dsl+phone togather? bundle discount is fine but chargeing 1 dollar more for naked dsl compared to dsl+phone is just nuts | |
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 |   MysticGogeta The Robot Devil Premium join:2005-03-14 League City, TX clubs: | Re: whom are they kidding Gotta make their money somewhere. | |
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join:2001-02-07 Vallejo, CA clubs:
| Re: whom are they kidding said by MysticGogeta :Gotta make their money somewhere. They make enough. All those BS phone taxes goes in someone's pocket. If I made that much, I would cut everyone else a break and offer naked DSL for $10. Get rid of dialup and focus resources on broadband.
If they were more competitive with Comcast and offered the speed I wanted at about the same price point, I might be tempted to switch. | |
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 |  axus
join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | The extra dollar is to cover the money they lost from not selling your phone number to the Direct Marketers Association. | |
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join:2004-03-02 Belleville, IL
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| Your World Delivered..Highly Unlikely Just another way of showing that it's not my way delivered it's at&t's ways delivered. Have to love the comment that the $10 dsl was not advertised since no one would want it. It's more like at&t doesn't want anyone to have it. What a bunch of morons at this company. How much worse can at&t get. This goes to show all they care about is $$$$$. | |
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join:2000-10-10 Lake Arrowhead, CA | Re: Your World Delivered..Highly Unlikely Show me a company (that's not non-profit) that isn't. | |
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join:2004-03-02 Belleville, IL
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| Re: Your World Delivered..Highly Unlikely Every company is out to make money. It just seems at&t does every little thing it can to make the most. Like their Uverse development with copper instead of fiber all the way. They are more concerned with pleasing the stockholders than pleasing the customer. | |
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join:2000-10-10 Lake Arrowhead, CA
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| Re: Your World Delivered..Highly Unlikely In this day and age, companies answer to the stockholders, not the customer. The only thing the customer serves is as the well from which to draw the money the stockholders demand. As long as the well doesn't dry up, they will draw from it until it does.
At some point, like the oil industry, there is going to come a time when that well dries up, and the company will move on in search of another profitable deposit. Environmental or economic impact be dammed. -- "No one will believe you solved this problem in one day! We've been working on it for months. Now, go act busy for a few weeks and I'll let you know when it's time to tell them." (R&D Supervisor, Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing /3M Corp.) | |
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 |   CyberRage Premium,MVM join:2001-03-21 Jasper, AL
| said by sm2016a :Have to love the comment that the $10 dsl was not advertised since no one would want it. It's interesting that they love to advertise on broadcast TV the exact same package for a low $19.95 and brag it's not an introductory price. Now let's see, no one will want 768kbs down for 10 bucks but hey, they might want the same speed for 20 bucks. Naw, we don't see through that. Fooled us completely. -- Prop your feet up at Southeast Chat | |
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 |   MysticGogeta The Robot Devil Premium join:2005-03-14 League City, TX clubs: | Re: bad map I think its just a very general map and just for that purpose. | |
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 |   somitho Premium join:2004-08-17 Richmond, VA | That map is quite accurate. It is the RBOC map, not a LEC map. ATT offers services in cross areas as well. LEC =! RBOC; but, RBOC==LEC. -- "If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." General George Patton Jr | |
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join:2000-10-11 Lincolnshire, IL clubs:  edit: August 13th, @05:37PM
| It's my understanding that AT&T.... doesn't advertise the $10 deal because they promised investors after it came out that they wouldn't put a penny toward visibility of a mandated money losing product. | |
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 |   hayabusa3303 Over 200 mph Premium join:2005-06-29 clubs: | Re: It's my understanding that AT&T.... Promises are made to be broken  | |
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| wow..I'll tell you..what luck eh? Look at that map and imagine being like me and living in Ct.
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join:2001-11-15 Odessa, FL
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| Customers don't want it ...... This is exactly the kind of Bell-think that got them into this predicament in the first place. The telcos KNOW what us customers want, and if we don't, they (t) will be glad to tell us. Die, at&t, die!!! -- The Light Pipe is the Right Pipe !!! | |
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  jgkolt Premium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH clubs: | still waiting on naked dsl. in about 10 minutes i plan to buy time warner cable internet since sbc won't get their act together here in the Akron, Ohio area. -- www.LakeSemaJ.com Help me get free trades.3 free if you sign up, $7 after. PM Me | |
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join:2007-08-13 New Philadelphia, OH | Re: still waiting on naked dsl. We all know why SBC won't--er--can't get their act together. =) | |
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| darn Well, I wish they would offer it here...
At one point I was mad at Cox for getting better upload than download... 500kbps down, 1000kbps up... kind of backwards...
Anyway, I called up ol' ma bell to see what they could offer, just because I was curious. NO, absolutely NO chance of getting JUST DSL from them... I was told I HAD to buy phone service... which, if added to the cost of regular 1.5Mbps DSL, was far and above what Cox charges for 'regular' (preferred) internet - now at somewhere around 7-8Mbps down/512kbps up...
They really should be able to sell me whatever internet service I can get at my location at a reasonable price MINUS the freaking phone service. If they could offer 1.5Mbps for ~$10, that'd be fine. 3Mbps service at ~$20 would also be nice... I might consider it at that price...
Oh well, they obviously don't care about actually doing this for people, so they'll not get a cent from me for their services. ...Guess my cell provider has to pay them if I call landlines, but hey, I'm not directly giving them any money.
DSL, esp. 1.5Mbps plans, have been around this town for almost a decade now... I fail to see why 1) price hasn't dropped much, 2) you can't get it without phone service.
Cox, meanwhile, has steadily been upping their speeds AND kept the price at ~$40 consistently. Started at ~3Mbps down, now it's at 10-12Mbps to some places, plus the "powerboost" makes for a connection that AT&T would have to BEG me to leave ...I guess the way to gain me as a customer would be cheap DSL without a freaking phone, contract, deposit, install fee, etc. etc. etc. | |
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join:2003-10-15 Toledo, OH | Re: darn Try online. Here in Ohio they claimed that it was a special department that handled that but if you go online you have the option to enter in your address to see if you can get the service. | |
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join:2000-09-22 Jensen Beach, FL
| Great $10 backup Been paying $10.95 for years for a dialup backup for my Comcast/Adelphia. Also use it on service calls for checking dialup accounts or modems. Got the $10.95 cancelled when I got the $10 DSL. Saving .95 AND have DSL and dialup as a backup for my cable. I've also managed to get the "term agreement" DSL for a lot of my older customers still using AOL, NetZero, etc. | |
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join:2002-07-16 Fort Worth, TX
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| at&t dry loop? hah At&T needs to offer these things to get me to move from cable. 1. dry loop dsl covering all available speed packages or 2. unbundled network element dsl service (at&t dsl, 3rd party telco) covering all available speed packages 3 u-verse in my area
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join:2005-10-16 Baltimore, MD
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| Re: at&t dry loop? hah I use Comcast now but Verizon offers up to 3mbps/768kbps (I got 2.8mbps/730 kbps) dry loop DSL in Baltimore for $34.95 per month for dry-loop compared to $29.95 per month for the same speed bundled with dialtone. Cavalier offers dry loop at "up to 10mbp" (more like 6mbps/850kbps in my neighborhood) for $40.00 per month. Wayne | |
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join:2002-07-16 Fort Worth, TX | i am very well aware of its offerings. unfortunately, i live in an at&t area so vz dsl is not available to me. | |
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join:2007-07-23 De Soto, IL
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| Like big companies give a **** about us who are in rural Re: Your World Delivered..Highly Unlikely Every company is out to make money. It just seems at&t does every little thing it can to make the most. Like their Uverse development with copper instead of fiber all the way. They are more concerned with pleasing the stockholders than pleasing the customer.
That is the first rule of bussiness AT&Ts cheap *** still doesn't have DSL where my parents live, & there is a fiber optic line nerar there. That map is wrong vorizon is the phone company up here in Jackson county IL. | |
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  David Last man standing Premium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL clubs:
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| Well karl I could get naked here but there would have to be a disclaimer like:
Said at&t representative is not responsible for the following: Blindness, mass panic, war, general social disruption, feelings of sadness, willingness to commit suicide, deification of construction blocks, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, drug use, increased drug use, general computer/electronic failures, dealings with the devil, basically we cannot be responsible for what can, may and will possibly, happen.
-- If you have a topic in the direct forum please reply to it or a post of mine, I get a notification when you do this. Koetting Ford, Granite City, illinois... YOU'RE FIRED!!
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