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join:2005-11-17
Springfield, IL | Wow... This general is an idiot instead of changing how people can access the restricted files they want to control the software!
brilliant! | |
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mrchris
Stop deleting my posts
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | Re: Wow... Not gonna happen. | |
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| ashworth
join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA | An idiot indeed. | |
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| matrix3D
join:2006-09-27
Deep River, CT
| Agreed. Another corrupt politician attempting to line his own pocket through FUD and misinformation. Why doesn't this moron simply recommend that all government-related networks and systems simply be "locked down" so that all known P2P traffic is not allowed? Why do they allow people to connect to P2P networks from government offices in the first place?? | |
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cdru
Go Colts
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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| Re: Wow... said by matrix3D  :Another corrupt politician attempting to line his own pocket through FUD and misinformation. Unfortunately it's not just politicians. Lining pockets through FUD and misinformation is traits also of lawyers, businessmen, and clergy. It's been that way for centuries. | |
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| RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| said by barn25 : This general is an idiot instead of changing how people can access the restricted files they want to control the software! brilliant! I doubt if he is an idiot. If you would have taken time to read the blurb you would have realized that he is actually rather clever - "P2P Weblog notes that Clark is a board member for Tiversa, a company that sells "file sharing risk assessment and monitoring services," which explains his enthusiasm".
You need to be careful how you randomly throw the term "idiot" around, just because you do not agree with what he is doing does not make him an idiot. A greedy conniving *insert favorite derogatory term* maybe, but not an idiot. Only an idiot would fail to see the profit potential.
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Zoly
join:2004-01-04
Houston, TX
| What? If they so concerned about security, then just do not allow installing those applications on company's computers. It seems that a lot of universities and colleges can do it but the government can't...
Oh, wait a minute... Is a security concern just a picked up reason to shut P2P down? It seems to me... | |
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| Joe12345678
join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
| Re: What? said by Zoly :If they so concerned about security, then just do not allow installing those applications on company's computers. It seems that a lot of universities and colleges can do it but the government can't... Oh, wait a minute... Is a security concern just a picked up reason to shut P2P down? It seems to me... The admins are too over worked and / or there is too much red tape to be able to lock things down. | |
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join:2003-06-19
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| Re: What? I've done some subcontracting for some gov't agencies that weren't even able to share files across the room. They had been relegated to manually duplicating things or relying on sneaker-net on the few pc's with active floppy drives.
Ill go with the pure incompetence, coupled with more ulterior motives for 200 Alex. | |
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CPUYODA
join:2003-01-25
Johnson City, TN | Err.. Best govt money can buy,......but it's been since 1776 since we got it.....
Getting long in the tooth...  | |
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N3OGH
They both suck, we're so screwed
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Err.. said by CPUYODA :Best govt money can buy,......but it's been since 1776 since we got it..... Getting long in the tooth... Couldn't have said it better myself.
"A little revolution now and then is a good thing; the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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Transmaster
Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| Phooey!
General Wesley Clark |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| Re: Err.. said by N3OGH :said by CPUYODA :Best govt money can buy,......but it's been since 1776 since we got it..... Getting long in the tooth... Couldn't have said it better myself. "A little revolution now and then is a good thing; the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. tyrants is its natural manure edit for proper context.
"Vertroue in God en die Mauser".-Faith in God and the Mauser.
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| What a moron Regulate your own and you won't have anything to share. Sounds like personal interest are getting in the way with work. sound's like a loss of ethics.
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| alalper
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join:2000-08-20
Philadelphia, PA
| Re: What a moron What a moron? I think, in this case, it should be "what a less-on"  The general apparently has less sense than the moron. | |
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| ossito16
join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
| said by jgkolt :Regulate your own and you won't have anything to share. Sounds like personal interest are getting in the way with work. sound's like a loss of ethics. Totally agree, I say send him back to Iraq, this time put HIM on front line guarding some f'n oil well | |
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Drakemoore
join:2005-02-03
Hawthorne, FL | Moo.. *yawns* Yet another scapegoat situation.. | |
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jester121
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | WTF.... I'm not sure but I think it's probably a bad idea for an active duty general to serve on the board of a tech corporation. | |
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TK Junk Mail
Go ahead, make my day
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: WTF.... said by jester121 :I'm not sure but I think it's probably a bad idea for an active duty general to serve on the board of a tech corporation. Yes, you are right.
BUT, Wesley Clark is retired. And has been since May 2, 2000.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Cla···tirement
The story should mention that he is a retired General. Otherwise, it is misleading.
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: WTF.... Thanks -- I knew the name was familiar but couldn't exactly place it. | |
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SupCap
Supreme Captain
join:2003-11-06
Johnston, IA
clubs: | Clark is retired from the Millitary. He ran for president in '04. | |
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| | lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| Re: WTF.... He did so as a Democrat.
And congress targeting p2p, what the hell happened the Democrats "over whelming mandate" from the electorate?
IMO it just the tip of the turd berg.
Support anyone that is not part of either major party | |
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swsamurai
Premium
join:2002-04-17
Bakersfield, CA
clubs:
 ·mybrighthouse
| This General has been brought to you courtesy of...
You know... more and more of these people seem to be sponsored by someone. I think that we should just end the facade and make them wear jackets or outfits like Nascar and other sports, with their sponsors on them.
At least it would make it easier to know who supports them, and vis a vers a. | |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| Re: This General has been brought to you courtesy of... said by swsamurai :You know... more and more of these people seem to be sponsored by someone. I think that we should just end the facade and make them wear jackets or outfits like Nascar and other sports, with their sponsors on them. At least it would make it easier to know who supports them, and vis a vers a. Would they agree to wear their brown shirts in public?
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swsamurai
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join:2002-04-17
Bakersfield, CA
clubs: | Re: This General has been brought to you courtesy of...
Maybe...
Wonder what Hilary and Obama would be wearing. | |
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Rogue Wolf
Came To Bury Caesar, Not To Praise Him
join:2003-08-12
Saratoga Springs, NY
| It's the government way! Why change procedures to eliminate a basic problem when you can just throw more money at an ineffective "solution"?
Your government at play work!
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ
| Ban use of the telephone as well If Gvt employees cannot avoid letting confidential materials out on P2P networks then how can they be trusted to use the telephone as well? I say ban Gvt use of telephones as a matter of urgency!
Seriously is this ex General losing it? A spot of training and a better IT approach would solve most problems. | |
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dadkins
Living on a Blu Planet
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| Where is IT Staff? Who is the asshat in charge of - Security?
WTF business do government employees have installing... anything?
DUH!!! 
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Lowtarget
15Mbps Roadrash
Premium
join:2003-12-22
Alger, OH
clubs: | Re: Where is IT Staff? Whats next? People watching XXX videos on government computers ? Then they go opps, we must control that too. lmao | |
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N3OGH
They both suck, we're so screwed
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
edit:
August 14th, @06:48PM
| Re: Where is IT Staff? Naa, most of the XXX sites are blocked.
But then again, thier is always freecell.....
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | where are the IT policies and firewalls blocking use of P2P software. why aren't secure files allowed to only be saved to a central server with strict access policies.
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Taget
join:2004-07-29 | Silly general... ...if you got in the presidential race months ago and actually did any organizing it might be worth selling out for donors. But right now? Not much return investment on trading away your soul. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs: | I have a soultion. quote:
The American people would be outraged if they were aware of what's inadvertently shared by government agencies on P2P networks. They would demand solutions.
Fire their stupid asses. | |
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| footballdude
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| Re: I have a soultion. said by batterup :Fire their stupid asses. Nobody ever gets fired from a government job. | |
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rodoke
join:2003-10-28
Carbondale, IL | Re: I have a soultion. Happens all the time, though the "firing" tends to be more literal than figurative... | |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
·Packet8
·Cox HSI
edit:
August 14th, @06:00PM
| We don't need no stinking security.... With all of the security features that are out there today - Group Policy, router/firewall ACLs, Network Access Control, etc - the government IT folks have no excuse.
I mean, seriously, my clients have more secure networks than the government it seems. We've got group policy on most systems locked down so boneheaded users can't fuck up their machines. We've already got ACLs on their routers to stop Limewire, Kazaa and others to so that some employee with an MP3 fetish can't saturate their internet links. And the kicker is, most of these clients have less than 100 employees.
Rediculous... The government, with all its resources can't spend the time and money protecting important data like employee records, but they sure as hell can find the money to build bridges to nowhere in Alaska, or even worse, pay raises for do-nothing, know-nothing Senators, Representatives, Presidents and Vice-Presidents...
Edit: Oh yeah, and watch now... Someone on the Hill, politically connected to one of these P2P monitoring/security companies is going to be raking in the cash shortly when their buddies get the contract to provide software/hardware to the government. Just watch.
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packetscan
Premium
join:2004-10-19
Bridgeport, CT
clubs:
·Optimum Online
| Our Own Security Why not focus on your own security?.
More importantly why are the system administrators allowing this software to be installed on Government, *cough-secure-cough* computers. Why are no internet filters in place to block such software. This is a failure of LEADERSHIP.
The employee's (government officials) should know full well that its wrong to install p2p software on work computers (and likely against policy) and if they are found to be using such software at work FIRE THEM.
Problem solved.
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| backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | Re: Our Own Security The Don would be so proud..... | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
·AT&T Southwest
| Hmmm. Seems to me ... ... That "Idiot Government Employeees" are a National Security threat! Starting from the top down!
I mean come on, seriously. "Hmmm... I'm on a PC that has access to sensitive files.... Let's install Limewire on it and set all drives to Public!"
Idiots. Firewall and PC software audits FTW....
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Ted
@rr.com | Ah Yes, Wesley Clark: 2004 Democratic Pres Candidate It seems that money may not be his only bias. | |
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rosco
Lumbergh
Premium
join:2003-11-10
Catskill, NY | Here's an idea Government people do their jobs instead of downloading porn and lindsay lohan cd's.
Threat averted | |
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Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| P2P Is For Noobs P2P is for idiots
Freakin' bandwidth hogs!
Get educated and go to the Usenet.
Only one upload and unlimited downloads.
You P2P users are damaging the Internet and will ultimately result in bandwidth restrictions.
If you are going to be a pirate, get some f'ckin' sense.
My shop's #1 business is from virus infected P2P users, so go on, you are making me rich. | |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD |  Bad General Redux
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Wesley Clark: P2P a National Security Threat
