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DirecTV has a lot going on, not least of which is a new "on demand" service that will let broadband-connected HR-20 DVR owners download content from the Internet. The folks over at DBSTalk have an early leaked look at the service (they also take a look at "remote booking").

Currently in field trials, the service will let you record up to three shows at once (two live feeds, one broadband download). Download speeds will obviously depend on your connection, and let the HD gods have mercy on any film and TV fanatics who have ISPs who employ download caps (hello Comcast, HughesNet, etc.).

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If you're a "DirecTiVo" (HR10-250) owner (like this writer), we should note that DirecTV is now offering those users the chance to upgrade to the HR20 for $99. Some users have managed to negotiate and get the newer DVR for free.

That's good news, considering that while DirecTV's rekindled relationship with TiVo means that older HR10-250 owners will see some new updates very soon, those old units won't be able to view DirecTV's new MPEG-4 HD programming arriving this fall, or use this new download service.

It's also refreshing to see a new serious emphasis on broadband connectivity. While it technically didn't need copper POTS to function, the older HR-10 unit did use a copper landline for activation and updates, which is just so 1994.

Also of note is that the NFL has finally agreed to start streaming NFL games via broadband, though at a steep premium. Users will need to shell out $260 for Sunday Ticket and another $99 for SuperFan (though users tell us some people have negotiated SuperFan for free). The streams will also be XP and Windows only.

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MrMoody
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Apocalypse Now

If this thing gets popular, it will cause the bandwidth/cap apocalypse. I can almost hear the ISPs screaming ...

johndoe303

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Re: Apocalypse Now

I agree, Comcrap is going to have a fit!
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Re: Apocalypse Now

they're already starting to reach panic mode with the lack of bandwidth they already have and they still load up on VOD.
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Re: Apocalypse Now

Nah , they will charge a fee for not being a subscriber to their service. Oh wait they do.

Ok new idea , they will charge a fee for you because you use the directv on demand feature instead. Yeah thats more like it.

Damn I can't wait for FIOS.
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MrMoody
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Re: Apocalypse Now

Yeah, or cut off the download site until DirecTV pays them for carriage.

McLovin
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NFL

The NFL is the greediest sports league out there besides basketball.

The MLB streams every game over their website free of charge (reg required, though), ESPN also helps them out too if I understand correctly.

I don't understand why the NFL requires such steep prices. Probably to pay their players $30 Million a year......

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Re: NFL

huh what are you talking about. It cost money to watch the baseball games from mlb.com
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WRONG! MLB.tv is not free. On top of that, their blackout restrictions are nothing short of ridiculous. PLUS, MLB held cable customers ransom at the start of the season unless they matched DirecTV's offer of $700+ million in rights to MLB Extra Innings. I would argue MLB is by far the greediest of all the leagues.

McLovin
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Re: NFL

OK Scratch that comment i guess. I remember people a few years back that always watched the games online before MLB.tv came out. Blackouts are pretty ridiculous as well.

Big Pete

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The MLB live streaming is most certainly not free...
MLB.tv prices:

1 2007 MLB.TV Monthly Subscription Only 14.95

2 2007 MLB.TV Premium Monthly Subscription Only 19.95

3 2007 MLB.TV Yearly Subscription Only 29.95

4 2007 MLB.TV Premium Yearly Subscription Only 49.95

I think if you buy every game before the season its around $80 or so...
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Re: NFL

Ya it's around $80 but you cannot see your local teams. I live in Ft. Worth and cannot watch the Houston Astros or the Texas Rangers. They are, in theory, supposed to be shown on TV every night on my cable provider, but Charter sucks big time and FUBARs it every time.
Awwc

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Unlike MLB player contracts, NFL players do not receive guaranteed monies with exception to their signing bonus. Baseball players get the whole thing.

Nice attempt though.

McLovin
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Re: NFL

Shut down.......

polosh

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Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

dish network HD-DVR free to use just pay for service
cable providers HD-DVR free to use just pay for service

directv HD-DVR $199 & they don't refund the money you paid for the device when u cancel or when contract ends or let you keep the device for that matter.

hope they change there policy by next year when there new Satellite comes online

THUD300
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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

$199? Website says $299.

I would already have one if it wasn't for that.
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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

The list price is $299 but unlike buying a Saturn auto you can usually negotiate with DirecTV and pay much less. There's a thread, also at DBSTalk, where folks have said what they've done to get deals with DirecTV, some $199, some $99 and some $19.99 or free. And as for Dish, usually if you want a 2nd DVR you also have to pay to get one, the 1st is the only 'free' one.

Frizzo

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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

I got mine for free from DirecTV. I got mine last Dec. I doubt anyone will get one for less than $99 now.
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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

I don't know about now, but 2 months ago I recieved my 2nd and 3rd HR20 for shipping & handling ($19.9?). So in total, I have 3 HR20s which I paid a grand total of $60 for. I did not have to haggle to get this price, they were all offered to me this way. The monthly mirror fee of ~$12 for both recievers 2 and 3 are much less than I'd be charged with Comcast or FiosTv.

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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

Got my HR20 free with a 2yr agreement, which I was happy to do, I`ve had DTV for 5 years now, no problems.

I`m using the VOD features, they work quite well over my fios connection. Dont have to worry about getting capped either heh..

They have a pretty good selection on the VOD, theyre building some more HD content now. The HR20 uses a queue system, so I just queue up some programs at night and let it do its thing, then check em all out the next day.

Right now its free, but if they plan to charge for it, I will drop it. Dont need it that bad. Joost works well enuf for that.

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I got my first 2 DVRs for free with my install along with 2 regular boxes. Then I got them replaced for free as well. I don't expect to pay much for my HD upgrade either.

The DirecTV DVR fee is $5 a month for all boxes which is half and the locals are included where they aren't with Dish.

Besides, no NFL Sunday Ticket.
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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

I'm paying 60 month for one tivo receiver and one regular receiver which by the way if you had additional receivers you pay the same just that direct tv now likes to renew your contract send you a receiver for warranty replacement ummmm dish....???? does anyone what they charge for equipment replace under warranty??
dualsub2006

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Re: Directv only provider who you have to pay for DVR device

One run on sentence that makes no clear point. What is it that you are trying to say?
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August 28th, @07:19PM

Yeah, right

Okay... let me get this straight. DirecTV's "on demand" service is going to depend on the viewer paying for a broadband connection from another company... and that other company doing the heavy lifting for DTV?

That makes sense... on Planet Stupid.

(Just a quick edit: that would be like Comcast or TWC offering "free" on demand... but if only if you also had their internet service.)
eco
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Re: Yeah, right

I feel this is probably only a short term solution until they can offer a real triple play package by either more satellites to increase available bandwidth for voice/data or setting up a WiMAX type solution.

I really think that if they can't offer a real ondemand service, like the cable and phone companies are offering now, they'll be dead in 10 or 15 years tops. People are moving more and more to watching their content when they want to, and more and more via ondemand as opposed to DVR. I'd bet the cable/phone companies will be able to work out some deal to allow a 'head end DVR' to allow people to record content and it be stored in a central location. It's a lot cheaper for the cable/phone companies to do that than put a big expensive box in everyone's living room.

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Re: Yeah, right

Cablevision was ready to implement a "central storage" solution for all the reasons you cite, and got hammered. The content providers and a whole bunch of people screamed, threatened lawsuits, etc. etc. and Cablevision backed down and scrapped the plan (even if only temporarily).

The problem is the advertising $$ that keep the networks (and studios/content providers) in business. If you can skip/block the ads - then the $$ will go away - then what will you be left with?

It will be interesting to watch.
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CapinPete
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Re: Yeah, right

Do away with all advertising on TV and charge for all viewing "a la carte". Shoot, if they did that, I might only have to pay DirecTV $2.67 every month for as much TV as I watch.
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The customer buying the equipment understands that they require a broadband connection for this to work. And it's nothing like TWC offering free ondemand but demanding you have their Internet service. That is buying another service from the same company, while DirecTV depends on you having service through another company. And no, DirecTV doesn't still own DirecWay. If a customer's willing to pay for a 6mbps connection, why is it that when they use it for DirecTV OnDemand it's suddenly the provider doing the heavy lifting? DirecTV still has to pay for the bandwidth the customers use. To me, that very simple comment makes you sound like you're against network neutrality. If someone wants to watch a YouTube video, is it the ISP doing all the "heavy lifting" for YouTube?
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What no swimming pool?

Why don't these leeches have to buy the mayor a swimming pool. Net-neutrality no problem, how many bits do you want to buy this month.

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sounds very much like IPTV

The line between the old and new is getting more blury... if DTV can accomplish higher resolution HD with their new sat's, and provide equal or even better service via broadband downloads, cable companies will have a lot to worry about. IPTV is the future; how soon the future becomes the present may be a matter of months or years now

on another note, it'd be interesting if the cable/telco's out there decide to start implimenting very strict consumption caps reasoning that it's hurting their business.
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Re: sounds very much like IPTV

I can see the cable companies doing it sooner, or throttling the traffic, and the telcos gaining a lot of customers.
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Re: sounds very much like IPTV

said by CMoore2004 See Profile :

I can see the cable companies doing it sooner, or throttling the traffic, and the telcos gaining a lot of customers.
It's AOL all over again, the service that doesnt cut it will hemmorage customers, and eventually go off into the sunset ...
Awwc

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At the least

this will get some of you the idea to call your respective media pushers to cancel your service when the time comes.

Then you'll learn of the "retention" department. And that you could have had your service for cheaper allll this time.
donjuan2002

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Re: At the least

they gave me a free hd-dvr, free hbo for six months, free cinemax for 3, I call last night
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"On Demand"

How is it "On Demand" when you have to wait a day to actually watch the video?
gefflong

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Re: "On Demand"

I don't know about anyone else, but I can start watching the On Demand shows in less than 60 seconds.
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