  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL 1 edit | Raising Rates.. but not raising rates... This method seems to be the popular method among ISPs (specifically telcos) who want to raise rates, but don't want to "raise rates". BellSouth had the $2.97 "Regulatory Fee".. Verizon tried it as well, but I think it was removed. | |
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 |   Doctor Olds I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me. Premium,VIP join:2001-04-19 1970 442 W30 clubs:
1 edit | said by Rob :This method seems to be the popular method among ISPs (specifically telcos) who want to raise rates, but don't want to "raise rates". BellSouth had the $2.97 "Regulatory Fee".. Verizon tried it as well, but I think it was removed. It is unknown if this fee actually increases the total bill or not and it is also unknown if this fee is for the Telephone service from Earthlink and not for the DSL part of the bundle.
Regular Earthlink DSL customers did not get this email so that leads me to assume that it is not a DSL fee like Bellsouth and Verizon implemented.
If this "Network Access Charge" is for the LPV Telephone service portion of the bill then this story is 100% inaccurate as that would not be a DSL fee. -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? | |
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join:2004-08-05 Home | Wow... A Network Access Charge?
Just what exactly do you pay an ISP for in the first place? | |
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  woody7 Premium join:2000-10-13 Torrance, CA | pfft..... I have Elink, and this is a crock of $#it! They are having troubles and we are supposed to pay for it. They owe me for the 12 hours it was down the other day then...... -- BlooMe | |
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join:2007-06-12 Brooklyn, NY | glub glub....gurgle Looks like Earthlink is sinking fast. | |
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join:2000-05-19 Fort Myers, FL | Re: glub glub....gurgle Its a Scientology front company anyways, good riddance. | |
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join:2000-02-24 Mount Joy, PA
| Re: glub glub....gurgle said by Kizaki :Its a Scientology front company anyways, good riddance. Any links to information about your claim? -- "Where's my coffee? Oh. I guess it's my turn to make it."  | |
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join:2000-05-19 Fort Myers, FL
2 edits | Re: glub glub....gurgle Just use Google, not that hard. There is plenty of information on this subject. Almost all of my information on the scientologist came from alt.religion.Scientology on Usenet back in 1995-1998. That was back then, thou I am pretty sure the scientologist still have their hands in this company. After all the guy that founded this company is a scientologist, and they keep strict control over their members (you would have to be blind not to see this). And I know they preferred to hire scientologist to work for them. Almost all their customer support were scientologist at one point. I might be a little paranoid but I still remember when the scientologist were coming down hard on people that criticized them on the net. So I am not too fond of any company started by them.
Lookup on google scientology vs internet, third link is probably the most reliable. »www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/rnewman/home.html (in case you can't find it)
Also search for Helena Kobrin. She was one of the lawyers that was threatening everyone with lawsuits. I got one of her "I'm gonna sue you to hell" threats in 1996 when I posted some shit about them on Usenet.
Here is one link I came upon when I searched for xenutv and earthlink on youtube. Its a start, whether you find it credible or not is up to you. Also look up earthlink on wikipedia, as unreliable as wikipedia is you can still use the references on the bottom.
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| Re: glub glub....gurgle quote: And I know they preferred to hire scientologist to work for them. Almost all their customer support were scientologist at one point.
I worked for EarthLink for six years (2000 2006). Starting on the phones in Customer Support and leaving as a manager allowed me to work with almost every department and level of the organization. So I can say with 100% certainty that you are completely full of shit. While most of the support staff may have been gay or stoned, NONE were scientologists. As far as I know, Sky Dayton (EarthLinks founder) was the only scientologist in the company. There may have been more, but it was definitely not part of the company culture.
I certainly have no love for the company, and think its only a matter of time before the whole thing comes crashing down, but please stop believing everything you read on the Internet. -- Praise be to my Cadillac | |
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| said by BillTager : So I can say with 100% certainty that you are completely full of shit. While most of the support staff may have been gay or stoned You forgot drunk as well.  I worked for Earthlink for three years (2000-2003) as a Senior Tech in the Tech Support and I totally agree with you that its just a matter of time before Earthlink comes crashing down. | |
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join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK 1 edit | Just die. Die you sorry excuse for a company. Bad business models are not allowed to succeed in a capitalist society. Time for you to go extinct. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" | |
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join:2003-12-08 Tulsa, OK | Re: Just die. yes, but those are being propped up by regulatory capitalism, not real capitalism. -- "WHEN THE LAUGH TRACK STARTS THEN THE FUN STARTS!" | |
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join:2003-12-05 Mesquite, TX | Re: Just die. 0uch! | |
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join:2005-01-28 Jacksonville, FL | Grrrr...
Ok, I really need to jump ship now. My DSL's not exactly blisteringly fast, and now Elink wants to charge me even more for it? **** that. | |
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join:2005-01-28 Jacksonville, FL
| Re: Grrrr... Nope. Now that I reread it I thought they were charging the 5 additional bucks to folks with DSL services and folks with DSL and VOIP. Ok, my bad on that one, but I still want to trade off my ELink services for something faster. Getting charged 40 bucks for 1.5meg services isn't really that great, and I'm not going to be able to upgrade my DSL speed since I'm about 10k feet from the CO.  | |
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| Re: Grrrr... I have one of the older Netopia modems and I tried to get 3k a while back when I was having DSL issues, since ELink was trying to boost data transmittion. Sadly, I think I'd be better off going with Comcast at this point, since they have 6k speeds for 50 bucks, which is how much ELink was charging me for the 3k when they realized it wasn't going to work and put me back down to 1.5k.
Thanks for the offer though, but I just need to bite the bullet and make the switch. Hell, I'm sure I could jump to AT&T for cheaper than ELink at this point if I was desperate to save some cash. Thats pretty sad, since I've been with ELink (Mindspring actually) for 8 years. | |
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join:2001-10-30 Villa Rica, GA
| yes great idea! Brilliant! When dangling by the short hairs over a precipice the proper option to select is;
a)shave b)jump c)awww heck who cares seems pretty stupid to me -- Fed Up With Stupidity?
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  NJChris PS3 Xbox ID Zzaz Premium join:2000-02-08 Pompton Lakes, NJ | Same, not the same? Yeah.. right. Your monthly charge will be the same, but you will be paying more.
Uh.... so the monthly charge will increase? NO! you will be paying the same... plus an extra $5.
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join:2003-08-09 Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Same, not the same? Yeah.. right. That's what happens when you bring in MARKETING people to try to run a business. They'll f7#& it up 12 times out of 10. | |
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  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| Earthstink Yeah i said it  What is the interNET? a NETwork! what you pay your ISP for. EL just needs to die already -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
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im not an EL customer, but i'm curious. so if you're locked into a 1 or 2 year contract, are you just stuck with this fee/rate increase. doesn't that qualify as bait and switch or false advertising or something? why doesn't someone file a class action? | |
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 |   CylonRed Premium,MVM join:2000-07-06 Bloom County | Re: contract There is or would be wording stating they can change the rates without breaking the contract... No one has files because there is no action that can be taken... | |
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  jmn1207 Premium join:2000-07-19 Reston, VA | Dear Earthlink.... I have enclosed a check for the full amount as usual; however, there will be a $5 service satisfaction rebate withheld. Consider the bill paid in full.
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join:2000-09-13 Hazelwood, MO | Re: Dear Earthlink.... You appear to be very defensive of Earthlink. Employee? | |
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| Re: Dear Earthlink.... Nope. Never have been. I just don't put up with misleading news articles about any company when all the facts are not present yet. I don't have any inside info, so I'm going to have to wait to see if I'm correct or not (and that is why this article should not have been put online until the facts are all out). I could easily be wrong (it won't be the first or last time either - I'm human), but at this point the article and reactions to it are way premature when no-one (outside of EL Bean Counters and Brass) have seen a single invoice yet. 
As far as my reply to you, it was to get you to read the facts on what would happen if you were to not pay your LPV bill in full on purpose. -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? | |
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join:2000-10-23 Livonia, MI | Just give DSL service away for free Then impose a fee to help recover the costs associated with providing a free service. | |
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| Re: Earthlink dsl fees When I moved to Florida, it was a decision between RR and Earthlink. Of course I chose RR and lucky I did. Rather than just call it a fee, why don't they just add it to your total bill and leave it like that. They are making it out like it's not there fault they are charging an extra $5 which isn't the case. | |
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| $10/month AT&T DSL here - flat $10, NO other fees.
said by SBC :
ATT started theirs in April of this year. Nothing much subscribers can do. Service providers are doing this and those who haven't yet, will do so soon. | |
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join:2003-04-02 Chandler, AZ
| Pay raises for tech staf in India As posted earlier earthlink fired most of their US tech support as a economist would say as a part of cost cutting measure. So why the f*** do they expect the users to pay arm and a leg when they are getting tech support in India of pennies. Stupid a$$e$ | |
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| Until a actual invoice is seen, this story should be removed There is no proof that the total bill will increase by $5.00 dollars or if there will be an itemized charge that shows $5.00 of the new billing going to the fee, but not actually increasing the original total since the email can be read two different ways.
I still believe in benefit of a doubt, until all the facts are actually in place. Otherwise it is speculation at best.  -- Whats the point of owning a supercar if you cant scare yourself stupid from time to time? | |
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join:2002-04-10 | New Fee The 5 dollars will be used to buy vasoline that will subsequently be used to lube you up at a future date for more money. Stay tuned to find out just how much. | |
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  Rob A Same Old Jets Premium join:2005-01-17 Pompton Plains, NJ | Earthlink DSL...pointless Seriously, it's more expensive than going directly through verizon, sbc, ATT, etc. Why bother with them? | |
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 |   jamez818 please hold during the silence
join:2000-09-18 Sunland, CA | Re: Earthlink DSL...pointless Because EL offers 8mb DSL and Verizon doesn't, only up to 3mb. Cable sucks in my area, if not then they would be a good option. | |
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join:2003-12-05 Mesquite, TX | Re: Earthlink DSL...pointless The 8mb is only attainable if you have optimum line conditions. With aging copper the world over, this is hard to find.  | |
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@qwest.net | Because LPV isn't provided by any of the companies you are discussing. I believe earthlink actually uses Covad for many of their services. However, I have Qworst, and it is much cheaper than Earthlink where I am. | |
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