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Media Defender's Torrent Decoy Tools Leaked
Things keep getting worse for anti-piracy outfit...

We're still digging through the leaked MediaDefender e-mails and are pretty astounded by how deep the rabbit hole goes, including plans for a version of their "MiiVi" honeypot for Mac, some ARIN abuse complaints and discussions with the New York Attorney General's office about handing over user data to law enforcement.

As if the 700MB of leaked mail didn't do enough harm to the Torrent polluting anti-piracy company, hackers this week also released the company's source code -- which includes the tools the company uses to place dummy files on p2p networks. The nfo for the pack, now circulating via p2p, says someone employed at the company released the tools:
quote:
The source is complete for their operations regarding Kazaa, bittorrent, gnutella etc. This system is now released for the public in order to identify the decoys they set up. A special thanks to the MD employee that gave this to us.
The applications in the pack have such names as BTPoster, BTSeedInflator and BTDecoyClient, and all are focused on disrupting BitTorrent or other p2p network use. The hackers in question, who call themselves the "Media Defender Defenders" continue to post new information about the company at this website, including legal threats, e-mails from the MD CEO, and the hacker's response to said threats.
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RayW
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Illegal begats illegal

Reminds me of the old feud movies .

Transmaster
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Transmaster

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Tek series

This whole battle reminds me of the excellent Tek series of William Shatner. Matrix riders, Matrix police, etc.

Doctor Four
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MediaDefender a victim of the Streisand Effect

From Wikipedia:

The "Streisand effect" is a term used to describe a phenomenon on the Internet where an attempt to censor or remove (in particular, by the means of cease-and-desist letters) a certain piece of information (for example, a photograph, file, or even a whole website) backfires and the information receives extensive publicity on the Internet, often widely mirrored, or distributed on file-sharing networks in a short period of time.

»yro.slashdot.org/article ··· /1237203

This is exactly what has happened to MediaDefender.

Ryan
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Ryan

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haha

This is the most entertain news stories I have seen in a while. haha just keeps getting better.

inteller
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insert 0wn3d! picture here....

never piss off hackers.

cableties
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Re: insert 0wn3d! picture here....

said by inteller:

never piss off hackers.
More like never piss off your employees. This is obviously a gift from someone either unhappy about their job evaluation at MD, or an internal disgruntled one.

knightmb
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said by inteller:

never piss off hackers.


It's too bad I forgot to remove the cool edit tag from the ogg file before it went live, but oh well..

AE
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AE

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Funny

Gotta love the reply this guy gives MediaDefender's law firm:
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Best regards,

Person Who Fakes His WHOIS Information
»www.mediadefender-defend ··· eply.txt


Combat Chuck
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Re: Funny

Here's my question.

So these guys (not just MDD, just smartass hacker guy in general) are basically fighting an information war with some company and his hired lawyer.

So they get an email from said lawyer and their immediate response is to fire off a smartass email; wouldn't it be better to just keep your mouth shut that way the lawyer sees his client as just a job, instead of risking him taking it personally and coming after you for revenge; with the added benefit that you deprive the enemy of more information?

That's what I'd do, then my adversary wouldn't know if he had even hit me or if I even really exist in the form he thinks I do and the lawyer remains basically a mercenary with little allegiance to his client beyond what he is paid; they just keep firing into the wind.

jester121
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Re: Funny

Naw, it's much funnier to ridicule the idiot lawyers on a a website.

Honestly, having known more than a few lawyers over the years who have highly inflated egos, I do find it amusing imagining a bunch of suits sitting in an office somewhere plotting their next move against a few twenty-something hackers who are safe and sound in Norway. For some reason, the rest of the world doesn't seem to give much of a crap when US lawyers start throwing their weight around (for obvious reasons!)

Combat Chuck
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Re: Funny

said by jester121:

Naw, it's much funnier to ridicule the idiot lawyers on a a website.
Well it may make for interesting reading, but it's just not wise.
said by jester121:

who are safe and sound in Norway.
Maybe they are right now. What happens if they have to go to the states for some reason? What happens if Norway law enforcement has a change of heart? What happens if they don't actually live in Norway and the lawyer gets smart and hires his own hackers?

It's just not smart; keep your cards hidden and you have more options than if you sound off just to stroke your ego.

N3OGH
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Damn.....

DAMN! YOU'VE JUST BEEN P-OWNED

USS! USS!

I like turr-tules
doppler
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Re: Damn.....

said by N3OGH:

DAMN! YOU'VE JUST BEEN P-OWNED

USS! USS!

I like turr-tules
Media-defender can give me a carwash.

Linga-longa
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Haha. Nice O&A reference.

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said by N3OGH:

DAMN! YOU'VE JUST BEEN P-OWNED

USS! USS!

I like turr-tules
Ramone, please show the guys at MediaDefender what its like to be pwned..

N3OGH
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Re: Damn.....

Nice to see some pests here at BBR.

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said by N3OGH:

DAMN! YOU'VE JUST BEEN P-OWNED

USS! USS!

I like turr-tules
I like to make werewolf MOVIES!!!!

N3OGH
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Re: Damn.....

DO YA??????

sporkme
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ARIN abuse complaints?

I've never heard of ARIN going after someone due to abuse. I would imagine you'd have to simultaneously be serving child porn, hacking government computers, sending many megabits of spam and of course have an upstream provider that really, really does not care.

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Re: ARIN abuse complaints?

Hopefully Limewire and other programs will look at the source code of dummy file maker and blocks it from appearing.

Lumberjack
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May be backwords here but...

It's getting old hearing about how all of these "hackers" try to save the planet like in that stupid movie.

So let's start, first p2p was created to share stuff. Well that's nice and all but it now it gives morons the ability to share their legal stuff to people who want illegal copies. And of course, lets not forget people that just don't give a rats ass about legality so they share everything because it's just "bits" right? Anyway, so MD comes along and decides to cramp the moron style and clog up even more bandwidth by sharing garbage. I could care less as I'm not interested in p2p but it is a neat idea, though a huge wasted of bandwidth and only increases my gaming latency.

So now, we have MDD. They scratched the protocol a bit and post information about MD (now that's REAL hacking)a. Now they think there all bad-ass because they are serving leaked content, wow. Oh and then there's the "you can get me because I'm in Norway" crap. Ohh, they can use that 12yr old internet anonymous stuff in real life, impressive.

Lame.

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Re: May be backwords here but...

You totally just ruined all my fun.

jsinaiko
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Learn how to spell. It isn't "there" it's "their."

Also, you got your tenses mixed up: "They scratched the protocol a bit and post information about MD..."

That ought to be "posted."

Lame - the Norwegian writes English better than you.

AreSee
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Re: May be backwords here but...

quote:
Learn how to spell. It isn't "there" it's "their."

.

Actually it's 'they're' which is the contraction of 'they' and 'are'; as in, "...they're all bad ass..."

And if you're (contraction of 'you' and 'are') going to play grammar cop, at least know WTF you are talking about.

jsinaiko
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Re: May be backwords here but...

You are correct - I thought it was the possessive, but it's the contraction.

Actually, it is still extremely awkward with "they're." "They are all bad-ass" isn't a real elegant clause either.

Lame car you have as an avatar.

And before you write anything about my avatar, yeah, I know - lame too.

phattieg
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Re: May be backwords here but...

It's lame that you actually posted a response to your incorrect usage of grammar. Face it, it's the internet, where millions of people type in lowercase all day long and nobody cares unless YOU TURN ON THE CAPSLOCK KEY, THEN THEY THINK YOU'RE YELLING AT THEM...


jsinaiko
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Re: May be backwords here but...

IT'S MY PERSONAL FRIGGIN CRUSADE AND I AM IN FACT YELLING!

Seriously - it gets on my nerves after a while. It's still writing, and it isn't IM so why not use correct spelling and syntax? OK, I know, this is hillbilly nation, but still...

You did.

DownTheShore
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Re: May be backwords here but...

~watching the verbal ping-pong game~

~smiling at her own nice avatar~

~going off to get more popcorn~

deadzoned
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The best part is MD working with the AG of NY though! (I guess we use the same "If you have nothing to hide then why be concerned?" excuse again just like with the NSA wiretapping stuff? I guess my point is simply this: No oversight of the system leads to abuse of the system every time.

While I don't support any type of crime, I have to say, it all seems a bit like a natural checks and balances to me. None of the parties involved seem to be in a position to claim innocence anyway.


Lumberjack
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Nice, the only response was grammar correction; now that's a comeback!

By the way, nobody likes grammar police on the internet but after the responses to your post it should be obvious.

Edit: Figured I'd change BTW to by the way since you aren't fond of 'texting' style. Don't need to get harped on for that too .
rbrugman
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Go Foreign Countries!

I always get a kick out of all the companies in the US wasting their time and money trying to sue and/or shut down sites that are located abroad. Granted, the US is the "most powerful nation on earth" but our laws mean nearly nothing elsewhere. Silly American companies thinking they can control the world.

jerry666
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talk about illegal

using AVG free in a business ?
»www.mediadefender-defend ··· 971.html

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Grothendieck
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Love it

I love this!
quote:
So! I'd like to make you aware of the following facts:

* You don't have any jurisdiction in Norway.
* The server is located in Norway.
* I'm located in Norway.
* Norway is not the United States of America.

LMAO! Go hackers!

DrModem
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Re: Love it

Norwiegen hackers: made of win. :P

I went to their IRC... all the people there were trying to hack into something.

Warden
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Oh Noes !!

Installing spyware on peoples computers ?
Using AVG in vilation of the software liscence ?

future is not looking bright for the MediaDefender guys


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KrK
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Hackers FTW

Go Hackers

caffeinator
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what a bunch of scumbags...

From reading through it some, those idiots even used Tor and anon proxies in order to do their deeds...for the record labels...jeez.

Comments like this are just repugnant:
quote:
Package the decoys well. Make album art and nfo files if you need to. Make them look real. The music labels will be looking at them and will be pissed if they are obviously decoys.
Hope they fry.

-CaFF