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join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL | Re: That's funny Its Teletubby for sure ... IMHO of course | |
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TJ_in_IL
join:2006-06-10
Winthrop Harbor, IL
 ·Teliax VOIP
·ViaTalk
 ·Comcast
·Teleblend
| Re: That's funny My first response would be to agree.... given the track record, or lack there of. 12,000 subs??? last estimate was about 50,000, but there have been a lot of people bailing.
But one thing does not add up..... finally there has been something going on over at TeleBlend.
Last night my old signature number that I did not port to TB started working, and was still in my profile in the SR/TB web portal.
They have been re-branding the old SR portal.
Last night I could log into another SR account I did not port, but now cannot.
Also, tonight my nonported sig number is no longer in my account, and dead air when called.
So, if they were going to hand it all over to P8, then why invest all of this time and energy 'improving' things, and cleaning up SR's mess? Why not leave it for the next regime?
Just my thoughts though.....
TJ
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs:
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| said by n1zuk  :Reminds me a bit of a great Sam Malone line from Cheers: "Not many people know this, but I happen to be quite famous." "I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV." | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | Teleblunder gets my vote.... Those clowns sure can't seem to get their stuff straight. | |
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jrich
@comcast.net | Re: Teleblunder gets my vote.... My service is down and telebum website has deleted support phone number. DEJA VOU Sunrocket | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY | Hmmm.. I wonder if it's Vah, Vah, Vah, Vahonage?
@ 93 cents per share, just might be. Two multi-million dollar judgments later. | |
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| luckystreich
join:2005-11-05
West Hartford, CT
·NETPLEX
| Re: Hmmm.. It would make my day of Vonage went out of business. They are a terrible example of how a business should be run. I'm surprised their advertising hasn't bankrupted them already.
Their service and cancellation departments are beyond substandard. That's what you get when you outsource and hire illegals to run the show. | |
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ptrowski
Got Helix?
Premium
join:2005-03-14
Putnam, CT
clubs: | Re: Hmmm.. Hmmm, read much? Vonage has over 12,000 subscribers. | |
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join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA | Re: Hmmm.. Yeah - I don't agree with the nutty old trout much, but Vonage's service is awesome. | |
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neko
All Hail Canada
Premium
join:2006-08-11
canada | Re: Hmmm.. I have Vonage in Canada, I have had the service for over 2 years now & it has been fantastic since I got it installed. I don't think Vonage will be going out of business soon, what with all their customers. | |
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stang0328
@verizon.net
thumbs down from:
dentman42
| said by luckystreich :It would make my day of Vonage went out of business. They are a terrible example of how a business should be run. I'm surprised their advertising hasn't bankrupted them already. Their service and cancellation departments are beyond substandard. That's what you get when you outsource and hire illegals to run the show. sounds like vontage is as bad as packet8. Packet8 started makeing threts about killing my credit when i broke my contract with them. I dont see how if they cant provide a service they can make me pay the phone was only usable for maby 30 min a day if that. Anyway they stated makeing threts against my credit so i told them they can have fun to start running peoples credit score before they sign them up my credit has been killed long ago due to medical bills and i told them to no plesent terms to **ck off. Well they started tracking down all my family members that didnt even live with me and calling them making threts against them. I really should have sued them for harrasment but just didnt have the time luckly like a school kid making prank calls they soon got bord with me and moved on | |
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Tricex2
join:2001-07-04
Atlanta, GA
| said by tmc8080 :I wonder if it's Vah, Vah, Vah, Vahonage? @ 93 cents per share, just might be. Two multi-million dollar judgments later. Vonage has way more than 12,000 subscribers | |
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| SauceMaster
join:2004-08-01
Kokomo, IN
·AT&T Midwest
·Vonage
| said by tmc8080 :I wonder if it's Vah, Vah, Vah, Vahonage? @ 93 cents per share, just might be. Two multi-million dollar judgments later. I guess you didn't see the 12,000 subscriber line in that bit of news  | |
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amungus
Premium
join:2004-11-26
America
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| I can guess Who it likely isn't going to be...
and that'd be ol' net2phone (»net2phone.com).
So are people already taking bets on Vonage? That'd be insane if it really was them! That ad for "People do stupid things" comes to mind "like 'borrow' patented technology from major telcos and then try to resell it under a new name and make money!"  | |
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Phattieg
join:2001-04-29
Jacksonville, FL | Re: I can guess I hope it's not SIPPhone. | |
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| rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
·Charter Pipeline
·Vonage
| I thought Vonage had ~2 million subscribers. As others have cited, the article said 12,000 subscribers.
I'm not sure Vonage can go out of business in this manner. With 2 million customers, it would be pretty hard for a cable company or telco to pass up buying them on the cheap. The buyer should be able to rapidly reprogram the customer ATAs to use their own equipment or, if profitable, keep Vonage's infrastructure in place. I would guess that Vonage has a lot of long term agreements with local CLECs and any likely buyer would assume those contracts -- unless Vonage filed for bankruptcy and voided all the contracts. If a telco bought them I would guess that they could make a killing since they could migrate the POTS termination from CLEC equipment to their own and then aside from the cost of SIP infrastructure, the rest of the monthly fee is mostly profit. | |
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join:2007-02-20
Old Bridge, NJ
| Haha "Patented Technology"...I guess you really haven't read the patents.....Verizon apparently thinks they own the patent to SIP packets and/or any other protocol similar to SIP thats used for VOIP and Sprint has a patent for telephony signaling over an ATM network(which Vonage doesnt even use). Oh, wait you're from Kansas...didnt your state vote against crazy theories like evolution.... | |
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join:2001-04-29
Jacksonville, FL
| said by bngdup :Haha "Patented Technology"...I guess you really haven't read the patents.....Verizon apparently thinks they own the patent to SIP packets and/or any other protocol similar to SIP thats used for VOIP and Sprint has a patent for telephony signaling over an ATM network(which Vonage doesnt even use). Oh, wait you're from Kansas...didnt your state vote against crazy theories like evolution.... Exactly. As I recall, ATM would mean one side of the conversation would require a different amount of bandwidth versus the other, such as 90kbps to talk, and 40kbps to hear. Last time I checked, uLAW (aka G711u) is 90kbps both ways. The other part of the argument concerns "telephony signals", but there is nothing that resembles what an ISDN or PRI connection when it comes to SIP. All of the packets are sent in a header that resembles an e-mail address, so it is NOTHING like standard telephone signals. How is this even related, when the signaling in question does not resemble the original PSTN service? Makes ya wonder... Hmmm...
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join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | It actually is a crazy theory when you consider it's premise...it takes a lot of faith to beleive in macroevolution whether you want to admit it or not.  | |
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join:2004-10-18
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: I can guess It takes a hell of a lot more faith to believe in the invisible man in the sky.
vinnie97 meet proven fact,
»www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
proven fact educate vinnie97. | |
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partysource
join:2000-11-25
Phoenix, AZ | It's not Vonage...Who has 12,000 subscribers? Read Below According to the agreement, Packet8 will be the only brand presented and promoted to the roughly 12,000 subscribers who will be left without VoIP phone service after the company winds down its VoIP operations over the next three months | |
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IanR
join:2001-03-22
Madison, NJ | Packet8 Marketing These fading VoIP companies are sure making Packet8's marketing effort easy and low cost! | |
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steveymacjr
join:2001-01-25
Matthews, NC | earthlink hey i just thought of something... I'm thinking it might be Earthlink's True Voice... Earthlink's new CEO has said he wants to concentrate on their core ISP business... and I'm thinking they may have only 12,000 customers, if that... hmm | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | Re: earthlink I am inclined to believe it is earthlink at they would be more responsible and get everyone nigrated safer than the sunrocket ordeal | |
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courtjester5
join:2002-06-17
Clementon, NJ | Re: earthlink Maybe its voicepulse, just a thought! | |
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Jackson5
@gblx.net | Re: earthlink Well your guess is as good as mine but I'm putting my money on the blender to go out this time. | |
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bhorow
join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY
| The reality is The reality is that there isn't a lot of money for a company who just does VOIP to be successful. Packet 8..Is holding its own due to better management than most and that they have a business side.
The fact is while it may not be the lowest price ever..The better companies are the cable companies for VoIP...
I don't believe its Earthlink though. 12,000 subs are not a lot of subscribers.
Again most people realize that Vonage will be chapter 11 before the end of 2009.
Again this kind of proves that you can't just be a residential phone player. This shouldn't be to hard to figure out. There was a listing about VOIP subscriber count on DSL Reports a few weeks ago..if only i could remember the link. | |
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thedscman
join:2007-09-19
| Could be VoIPGo It could be VoIPGo. They haven't been responding to any emails. There 800 number on there website doesn't work. There online chat support is non-existent now. And lastly they've sent this out.
09/19/2007 08:37 PM
Dear Name Withheld,As a valued Voipgo customer we would like to provide you with some information about how Voipgo is striving to improve service and to meet the expectations of our customers. Your feedback and comments would be much appreciated over the weeks to come.Voipgo is currently undergoing major restructuring.The following is an analysis of what is to come and how it will affect you.====================VOIPGO.COM====================Voipgo's website
(www.voipgo.com) is currently undergoing a complete overhaul. Our new website will be more secure. It will also improve ease of use and you will be able to easily find the answers to your most frequently asked questions.The new website is expected to be operational in the next
2-3 weeks.====================MYVOIPGO====================MyVoipgo is a new all-in-one online billing/support platform.From within, you will be able to easily view and pay your invoices, request assistance with any problems you may encounter, maintain your billing information, resend your Welcome E-mail and so much more! All of this in a highly secure environment. Customer service and security are our number one priorities.MyVoipgo is expected to launch within 1 week.====================SERVICE STANDARDS====================Voipgo
is continually working to improve the standards of our services while remaining a low cost provider in comparison to our competitors.We are aware that there have been a lot of issues lately with delays in number porting, service issues (i.e. dialing 800 numbers, soft limits being implemented, etc.) and customer service in general. We are now under new management and are working around to clock to resolve all issues. New systems are being implemented that will make our service a more enjoyable experience. We ask you for your continued patience over the next couple of weeks while Voipgo undergoes restructuring.All tickets are currently being answered in the order they were received and we are working on cutting down on-hold times for online chat and telephone support as well. Support representatives will be properly trained to handle all of your inquiries either via email, online chat or over the phone. If you do require support at this time, please contact us via email using the contact form located on our website or initiate an online chat with one of our representatives. This method will guarantee you the quickest response. We also ask you not to submit duplicate tickets as it will only delay our response times.Once again, we thank you for your continued patience and support. We hope that the above information has shed some light on what is going on behind the scenes and what you can expect from Voipgo in the near future.Best Regards,The Voipgo Team | |
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| bhorow
join:2004-05-17
Forest Hills, NY
| Re: Could be VoIPGo I have been trying to guess this...On ISP-Planet they list XO communications as having 12,000 customers although these are business and not residential customers. Teleblend could be a possibility..but just on the subscriber number and what i was able to research im guessing Xanado (SP)...I mean there are articles on the internet that has a growing list of VOIP providers in the last 2 years, Its a ridiculous number of companies.
I wonder why isp-planet doesn't list how many packet 8 subs there are or Lingo Subs.
If I recall Sunrocket had 100,000 subs in Quarter 1...It would be bad if teleblend could only hold 15,000 VOIP subs. | |
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The Beer
I Love It When A Plan Comes Together
Premium
join:2001-07-24
Omaha, NE
clubs: | Betting On... Broadvox dumping their residential customers to focus on Wholesale?
Broadvoice?
12,000 seems rather small who could be that small anyone would care about? | |
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mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
| Candidate: StanaPhone My guess is as good as yours; however, with the recent frequent intermittent of services and stopping to accept new members, I believe StanaPhone will probably fit to the category of VoSP to quit.
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@mchsi.com | My 2 Cents - Maybe Netzero Voice I was using Netzero Voice and they have been winding down their VOIP services for the past few months. I'm gonna guess that this could possibly be whats left of their VOIP customers. | |
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| rnikischer
join:2002-12-28
Willow Springs, IL | I also do palm readings if anyone is interested. WINNAH!!!! | |
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DrKnow
@hu-berlin.de | Obviously it is ViaTalk It is obviously ViaTalk. ViaTalk is a small operator with perhaps 12,000 customers. | |
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ViaTalker
@rr.com | Re: Obviously it is ViaTalk That's right. It is ViaTalk. They still have around 12,000 customers despite their hoorondous customer service. | |
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brut7
join:2000-10-06
Babylon, NY
·Optimum Voice
| Independant VOIP as we know it seems to be fading The independant voip companies simply have to make a profit if they are to compete with ISP VOIP.
I was with SR and loved it, their gone...
Now I'm with optimum voice, love that too at twice the price beacuse I feel and hope they will provide great servive (they are) for the long haul hopefully.
My point is I want great VOIP thats going to be stable.
I never want to be on a regular land line again as they rape us.
OV is great from my ISP, hope they stay that way and don't become the next verizon. | |
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| JorSlz
join:2004-03-21
New York, NY
| Re: Independant VOIP as we know it seems to be fading what about Lingo?
I had been receiving calls everyday from Packet8 and they always just leave a message on my voice-mail like this.
This a test call from Packet8. thank you.
I am a Lingo Costumer and I am don't know why I am receiving this call from them. | |
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@optonline.net
| It's Not So Bad Keeping It a Secret - Here's Why At first I was upset that Packet 8 didn't mention the VOIP carrier it is taking over. I didn't want to be in a Sunrocket situation again!!! (By the way, I finally got my phone number ported over the end of Sept. which ws 10 weeks after signing up with my new company!) However, on giving it more thought, I realized how different my situation would have been had Sunrocket did that. First of all, Sunrocket would have sold all its assets to the new company. The new company would have integrated my account into their organization probably without my knowing it. True, there might have been some bumps, but I'm sure when I called the Sunrocket number, I wouldn't have known the new company would actually be handling the calls as the phone number I was dialing would have Sunrocket's number. I'm sure the problem would have been handled in an expedient manner because there wouldn't have been 200,000 people scrambling to find a company clogging the phone lines of Sunrocket and most of its competitors. Then once my number was ported over to the new company, and everyone was functioning well, a press release could have gone out to all former Sunrocket customers that their service has been incorporated into the absorbing company, and the service you have recently been getting is a result of the new service. Then they could have given the new price guidelines giving the people a chance to stay or leave the new company. I know that if they charged me 5-10 more per month, I might have stayed with the new company rather than go through the hassle of switching companies. We paid very little for Sunrocket. They gave the store away with all their half price promotions. That's why they couldn't stay in business. I was extremely happy with their service and had them over 2 years. I saw the improvement in their service. The first year I had them, it was truly bumpy, but they came back and gave me points, extra phones, a promotion renewal price to keep me as a customer, but you can't give all that away and stay in business. Let's hope that Packet 8 is smart when they absorb this company and won't start a mass panic as what happened when Sunrocket went under. | |
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burgerwars
join:2004-09-11
Northridge, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: It's Not So Bad Keeping It a Secret - Here's Why According to this thread, it's the PrivatePhone Voice Service:
»NetZero/PrivatePhone discontinuing Voice Service
I use their free voicemail only service. If it's the voice service, I wouldn't think it's a big win for Packet8. I don't think this service has that many paying customers to begin with. | |
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@bellsouth.net
| Re: It's Not So Bad Keeping It a Secret - Here's Why i do not think it has any paying customers; its a free service. but it will not be free if you take the packet8 offer. i am one on the privatephone users. i am pretty upset that they did not work something out with a similar free service for number porting. the logical choices would be aimphoneline or grandcentral. i will be contacting both aol and google to see if they can port my number. | |
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