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Levittown, PA | Will the RIAA hackers please come forward... I suspect RIAA has the same motives. Come forward, hackers. You'll actually be heroes...isn't that what you deserve? | |
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Jodokast96
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Erial, NJ | Typical BS It's ok for us to break the law to keep you from doing it. | |
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| Re: Typical BS haha i love how they claim they didnt know he was stealing it. yet they hired a Hacker, so its clear they wanted the information under the table or they would have gotten a Sopena(sp).
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| Re: Typical BS said by aaron8301  :Subpeona (yeah, I never understood it's spelling, either). Helpful for the on-line denizen:
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Oh, and the Spell Check here on the site.
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Clarkston, WA | Re: Typical BS You are replying to me, not Kearnstd - wait, are you implying - AHH CRAP! I spelled it wrong too. DAMN SUBPOENAS! | |
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| said by John Galt :said by aaron8301 :Subpeona (yeah, I never understood it's spelling, either). Helpful for the on-line denizen: » dictionary.reference.com/Oh, and the Spell Check here on the site. You didn't notice he put (sp) by sopena, didn't you? For the online denizens, this mean intentionally spelled that way.
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| said by aaron8301 :Subpeona (yeah, I never understood it's spelling, either).
"under threat of penalty". Latin sub = under; poena = penalty. | |
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TechieZero
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Wesley Chapel, FL | Re: Typical BS I wonder if this is related to "testify" which in the Roman days, you actually put your "boys" on the line, or they will be chopped off. At least this is how I heard it. | |
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Lake Zurich, IL | Re: Typical BS Dunno if that's true but if so I think we should bring it back. Wonder if Clinton would have been so smooth on the stand knowing what the stakes really were?  | |
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| Re: Typical BS Bah...I never understand why we expect our politicians to be such moral leaders as well. I mean come on! They are rock stars w/ a suit and tie and females throw themselves on them. In Clinton's case, he was married to CHillary...I would have easily given him a pass on that alone.
If I was Bill I would have said "No I didn't have sex unless you consider a BJ sex, and it was great! Then I smoked a big fat one --- inhaled --- and it was good too! Now I am gonna smoke this bastage in the desert! Watch! Its good to be the President! Woohoo!"
This would have raised him up a couple of notches IMHO. | |
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| said by Jodokast96 :It's ok for us to break the law to keep you from doing it. The typical arrogance of those in power. When the rules favor THEM, they expect people to follow them.
When the rules make it hard for them, they see fit to "bend" them a bit.
I don't participate in downloading copyrighted material without making proper payment for it. Any more, it's just too easy to pay up, and get a clean copy of whatever I want.
But, someone needs to smack the MPAA in the taint for this one. What a bunch of self serving dummies.
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| Re: Typical BS said by N3OGH :But, someone needs to smack the MPAA in the taint for this one. What a bunch of self serving dummies. Like my sig tag says..... +1 for an excellent use of 'taint'! | |
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| Re: Typical BS said by james1 :for the sake of curiosity could you please name the games? Operation Flashpoint and Battlefield 1942. (OF was the worst I've ever seen)
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| said by article :
Attorney Rothken says he did not sue under the federal computer-hacking law, because it doesn't allow for vicarious liability.
I can't believe it isn't illegal to hire someone to perform an illegal computer intrusion.
Also, the idea that a website operator can be required to start keeping logs that he wasn't already keeping, in order to generate evidence for the benefit of the other party, is pretty outrageous. | |
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Erial, NJ | Re: Typical BS Not quite yet. | |
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| Actual News Court rules against TorrentSpy in hacking case
Judge rules MPAA didn't violate Wiretap Act, but studios acknowledge purchasing private e-mail exchanges.
By Greg Sandoval
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: August 28, 2007, 3:17 PM PDT
Last modified: August 28, 2007, 3:50 PM PDT
But while a U.S. District judge found that the Motion Picture Association of America had not violated the federal Wiretap Act, as TorrentSpy's attorneys had argued, the MPAA acknowledged in court records that it paid $15,000 to obtain private e-mails belonging to TorrentSpy executives.
The MPAA's acknowledgement is significant because it comes at a time when the group is trying to limit illegal file sharing by imploring movie fans to act ethically and resist the temptation to download pirated movies. To critics, the revelation by the MPAA is a possible sign that the organization is itself not above adopting unethical practices in its fight against file sharing.
"Ethically, it's pretty clear that reading other people's e-mail is wrong," said Lorrie Cranor, an associate research professor and Internet privacy expert at Carnegie Mellon University. "Being offered someone else's e-mails by a third party should have been a red flag."
The MPAA, which says that illegal file sharing costs the film industry more than $2 billion annually, did not respond to interview requests.
In court records, the MPAA said that the person who obtained the e-mails did so before approaching the group with an offer to sell the information and that he signed a contract stating he had come by the correspondence through lawful means.
Ira Rothken, TorrentSpy's attorney said: "We believe that the MPAA, when it paid $15,000 for about 30 pages of e-mails, knew or should have known they were involved in purchasing something in a wrongful manner."
»marketwatch-cnet.com.com/Court-r···948.html
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| Re: Actual News said by knightmb :So if someone came up to me and said "Hey, I got all this money from the bank through lawful means" would I take the money and assume that banks just freely give out money? Either the MPAA are just plain idiots (likely) or someone really needs to get fired there. Most likely the MPAA hired the guy to come up with the stuff, and concocted this story to provide plausible deniability.
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| Re: Actual News said by russotto :Most likely the MPAA hired the guy to come up with the stuff, and concocted this story to provide plausible deniability. That is, they're lying through their teeth. Yep!! | |
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| Re: Actual News This is a wasted argument. The courts dont care much if the big boys have ethical issues, when they are trying to convict a criminal. Cops ALWAYS bald face lie and deceive suspects to trick them into making damning statements. Unless they make a technical blunder, the ends always justify the means even if the judges end up scolding the big boys. | |
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| said by cork1958 :said by russotto :Most likely the MPAA hired the guy to come up with the stuff, and concocted this story to provide plausible deniability. That is, they're lying through their teeth. Yep!! Thats I new one on me.
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| said by knightmb :said by supergirl :In court records, the MPAA said that the person who obtained the e-mails did so before approaching the group with an offer to sell the information and that he signed a contract stating he had come by the correspondence through lawful means. I love that part, WTF? So if someone came up to me and said "Hey, I got all this money from the bank through lawful means" would I take the money and assume that banks just freely give out money? Either the MPAA are just plain idiots (likely) or someone really needs to get fired there. Let's see: Ira Rothken, TorrentSpy's attorney said: "We believe that the MPAA, when it paid $15,000 for about 30 pages of e-mails, knew or should have known they were involved in purchasing something in a wrongful manner."
If TorrentSpy believes he approached the MPAA, umm, why can't you? Oh, hate clouds your cognitive functions. 
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| Re: Actual News I was thinking... We could say "some person" came by and attached to my open access point downloaded the movies I accidentally taped to my front door and placed them in my "put those movies here folder" on my hard drive.
BUT I was told they were recorded lawfully.
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What this is ... the MPAA acting as if all Americans are stupid!! The more we sit back and allow this to transpire the more they prove their point..
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| Re: Actual News Not being a lawyer, nor "Pirate", nor naive, isn't accessing someone else's computer for whatever reason illegal (unless there is a court order)? I think a "civil" suit is in order, unless they are some how "immune" 
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| Re: Actual News said by woody7 :Not being a lawyer, nor "Pirate", nor naive, isn't accessing someone else's computer for whatever reason illegal (unless there is a court order)? I think a "civil" suit is in order, unless they are some how "immune" Ha yea... and like murder if you pay or help plan it aren't you also liable? | |
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MrMoody
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Smithfield, NC | And once again we see that it's OK for the "good guys" to break the law in order to get the "bad guys." | |
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TechieZero
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|  Tired of hearing this
Am I the only one who is tired of hearing this?
Where do they get such an outrageous figure?
How about if their business models didn't suck, they would do a lot better?!? How about selling DVDs and CDs is a time long gone and *dead* (especially over $10) --- this isn't the 1980s; you set yourself up for failure *every* time. Time to own up RIAA, take some responsibility for why this is happening. Cross-Market, focus on live shows, events, eContent (with quality production, cheap and easy), spin-offs, and advertising. Get real talent instead of manufactured lip-sinking fools. We are more mature now, we can tell the difference.
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Neshanic Station, NJ | Re: Tired of hearing this You know what they say, 95% of the stats are made up. The sales have actually gone up in the recent years. | |
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| I'm sick of hearing it too, if they never had the money, they didn't lose it !
If it were actually costing them $2 billion/yr, wouldn't they be bankrupt by now ?
I go to the theater, I buy DVDs, mp3s, and the occasional CD, but I can understand piracy, companies like the MPAA and RIAA are just to frikken greedy, if they charged less for their product, they'd actually make more money by selling volume, but they don't see it that way. The same goes for software developers, they charge way too much.
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| People undercover See thats how I imagined. Someone employed by the RI or MP and random asking me questions via myspace, or the p2p program ....then sending me links for information. I bet its just like being phished! ....Or sending me a program that launches something....either way it is illegal even when I AM NOT sharing my files......
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| With the game of whack-a-mole on and restricted sites... I wanna see the study that shows that the corn farmers are now unable to find uses for the glut of cash coming their way now that home television broadcast viewing is up along with movie sales. ;D TV-links.co.uk is gone, ISOhunt is restricted - ISP packet filtering and shaping to stall unencrypted P2P sharing - the movie, music and corn industry ought to be ablaze now!!!!!1!!one!!!eleventeen!!!
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Pittsburgh, PA | Corn Farmers my @ss! I just love how they always try to say " We have to protect the corn farmers!"
Well, hate to break it to the MPAA, but I don't even buy popcorn when I go to see a movie. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: Corn Farmers my @ss! As i posted sometime ago hackers get owned by the goverment and work for them. | |
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| said by bbtech6650 :I just love how they always try to say " We have to protect the corn farmers!" Well, hate to break it to the MPAA, but I don't even buy popcorn when I go to see a movie. ...but when I sit down for an evening watching pirated movies with friends, we usually go through a box or two of microwave popcorn...  | |
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| Like I Said, That Lady Was Probably Hacked by RIAA
Yup, just like I said, that lady who was recently convicted by kangaroos was probably hacked by RIAA (the plaintiff). RIAA probably set up the share and everything, collected their info, then destroyed the disk drive to cover their tracks. Then accused the defendant of covering her tracks by having the now 'defective' disk drive replaced.
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If you want something go buy it.
If you cant afford it, I guess then you can't have it.
Wah.
Whiners.
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Wesley Chapel, FL | Re: Like I Said, That Lady Was Probably Hacked by RIAA I think the only people whining is "The MPAA, which says that illegal file sharing costs the film industry more than $2 billion annually..." | |
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She did buy them, she had the CDs. The was not the charge nor what she was convicted of. She was convicted of making copyrighted material available. Which might not even be illegal.
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I Was a Hacker for the MPAA
hmmm what ?