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| Thanks for nothing Time Warner Time Warner, why can't you give me 20/2 instead of 10/.5? If verizon is testing 100GBps, what does that say about you? | |
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| Re: Thanks for nothing Time Warner said by TWSux :
Time Warner, why can't you give me 20/2 instead of 10/.5? If verizon is testing 100GBps, what does that say about you?
I think you might have misunderstood (unless you're just trying to make a joke). This is a backbone link trial, not a broadband trial. Also, it's not 100 GB/s (800 Gbps), it was a test of 100 Gbps P2P transport. Big difference.
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MadDog3057
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| Re: So... said by ropeguru :Verizon are you going to offer FiOS to us here in the Miami area?? If not, I really don't give a rats A$$!! Seriously. Why would they have fiber down here if they don't offer service here?
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join:2002-03-26
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1 edit | said by MadDog3057 :Seriously. Why would they have fiber down here if they don't offer service here? Are you kidding? Broadband is only a small piece of the pie, and not necessarily the most profitable one either.
Verizon Business = MCI Business. Think larger than broadband. Much larger. Your $59/mo. is chicken s**t money in the larger picture.
Think voice circuits. Think OC-3, OC-12, OC-48, OC-192, OC-768. Think Metro Ethernet. Who would want such things? Think circuits for which datacenters pay $100,000-300,000 per month. Think insurance and financial company headquarters with Fast-E, Gig-E, and 10Gig-E links for internet transit and point-to-point around the globe.
It's funny how people equate internetworking (and the internet in general) as only used for bringing YouTube to the household.
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clubs: | Re: So... If that were the case, then why even mention FiOS IPTV??? Why not just claim it as tests for backbone connectivity???
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| Re: So... said by ropeguru :If that were the case, then why even mention FiOS IPTV??? Why not just claim it as tests for backbone connectivity??? I guess they just sent Fios TV as something to test with. You are right though, it gives the impression that if they were testing Fios TV it would be because they either offer the service here or are planning to.
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| said by ropeguru :If that were the case, then why even mention FiOS IPTV??? Why not just claim it as tests for backbone connectivity??? Why not? Shoving FiOS TV down the pipe is an excellent way of testing the circuit. The best type of file to use during a bandwidth test is one that is already compressed, and FiOS TV fits the bill. It's no different than when the speed testing tools here on DSLR measure your bandwidth by seeing how much of an MP3 file you can download and upload within a certain amount of time....
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join:2000-08-25
New York
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| So much for capacity worries This sends a nice big STFU to claims by AT&T about "network capacity apocalypse by 2010."
That's pretty impressive. Question is.. Can they transport sustained 100Gbps on the backhaul? Not gonna be a pretty sight if they don't test that before-hand. | |
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1 edit | Re: So much for capacity worries said by Network Guy :Question is.. Can they transport sustained 100Gbps on the backhaul? Yeah, backbone links are typically less problematic capacity-wise than regional transport. Am I worried? Not really.
10 years ago the average household had 56k dialup. Today 20/20 is commodity. That's a ~350-fold increase. So where will we be in 10 more years? 
I think the bottleneck to deployment of these magical 100G/sec (or even terabit/sec) circuits will be equipment costs.
Anyone whose purchased line cards to terminate OC-x circuits will appreciate the magnitude of the investment required to accomplish this, not to mention the switch/router chassis to house those cards. Each switch/router is a 7-figure investment, and there are thousands of these devices that will need to be upgraded accordingly.
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| Re: So much for capacity worries We replaced our Mahi backhaul gear ($700,000+ each) with several Turin chassis ($400,000 each) recently. The Turin stuff is capable of OC-384, whereas I believe the Mahi maxed at OC-192. I want to say the OC-48 cards we populate the Turin are like $15K a pop, but I may be off. In any event, this is a good example of backbone equipment costs coming down. The Turin is beefier yet almost half the cost of the old stuff! Who knows -- by the time 2010 rolls around we'll probably see OC-768 gear in the $200K range!
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New York | Re: So much for capacity worries As long as Cisco isn't leading nor isn't the only one rolling out next-gen equipment rollout, you can bet on continued lower costs.
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| Re: So much for capacity worries said by Network Guy :Could be worst.. You could have Foundry gear. Haha, we actually do use Foundry's to provide WAN peering connections for our non-PtP ethernet and non-PtP DS1 / DS3 customers, as well as our sister cableco's cable modem platform. I take it your experience with Foundry equipment has been less than stellar?
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New York | Re: So much for capacity worries I've toyed with one or two, not in a production environment. Interface is just hideous. | |
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| Learn to crawl before attempting flight This is madness.The current FIOS network is so overbuilt the entire corporation is paralyzed.
Somebody at Verizon has to grow a set of balls and tell the investors it's not working before even their own pet FCC has to step in.
Verizon is currently in such a state of turmoil it's not even working well enough to be called dysfunctional.
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1 edit | Re: Learn to crawl before attempting flight Hardly.I never mentioned cable at all and if I did I wouldn't have a lot of positive things to say.I've had Comcast before and in any practically any other industry they'd be unable to survive.They have terrible customer service but Verizon is actually that much worse.
Verizons customer service doesn't exist.If you don't have a Verizon phone # you literally have no customer service at all. All you have is a bunch of different departments that switch you back and forth between them, never resolving even the simplest most elementary billing issues.You can spend hours getting a totally artificial charge removed from your bill and it reappears the next month and you have to go through it all again.
My point was, Verizon is so far in over their heads now they cannot even perform the simplest of business tasks.It's impossible to get ahold of a customer service rep who can do more than read down a list and then transfer you to another, laterally trained CSR who just repeats the cycle.They will be glad to transfer you as many times as you want to repeat the same cycle but that's the extent of their customer service.Lateral phone transfer is not customer service.
They are aware of the problem but are not hiring any new people, they are just forcing the ones they have to work overtime until they burn out.
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united state | Re: Learn to crawl before attempting flight They are aware of the problem and have not stopped hiring for months including opening of another fsc.Cannot speak for billing but as far as tech support has not stopped growing in the past year | |
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join:2006-08-24
Schenectady, NY | It's not working? Huh?
Fios just became available for ordering a couple weeks ago, and I saw two installs going on within two blocks of me today.
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Boca Raton, FL | Amazing They managed to run something over fiber in Florida before someone managed to cut the fiber.
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Milledgeville, GA
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| Re: Amazing said by panth1 :They managed to run something over fiber in Florida before someone managed to cut the fiber. I guess the construction crews are on Thanksgiving vacation. HAHAHA so true.. i was with adelphia and there were like 3 or 4 big cuts that i can remember... must live in S. Fla to get the joke... | |
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join:2005-09-22
San Jose, CA
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| Re: FIOS in miami Miami ...
A trucking company I'm applying to has four areas in the country designated high theft zones, and their policy says we're fired if we park there.
A big part of Florida (including Miami) is one of the four places. Don't compare apples to oranges. Miami = a bad crime capitol, so don't disparage the rest of the nation's luck with FiOS just because of some bad apples in one particular area.
(The other three are some part of Georgia, some part of Southern California, and one I forgot.) | |
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join:2007-11-29
Miami Beach, FL
| Re: FIOS in miami Hello, I thought I should ask here as I see other members in Miami...
I presently have a bellouth DSL line at 6Mbps down/512 kbps up. Not enough. But it appears FIOS may take forever to be offered here.
Is there another cost-effective internet connection I could use?
Covad has a T1 for $489/month. Too expensive.
Nothing in between?
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| FIOS Miami Since some of the posters here are in Miami I thought I should ask... I have a business DSL from ATT/Bellsouth which runs at 6Mbps down and 512 up. Not enough.
As I wait (perhaps forever) for the 30Mbps/6Mpbs from FIOS, does anyone know of an alternative to my present connection? I got atlantic broadband in the past and wasn't good.
A T1 from covad would be $489/month. Expensive.
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