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join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | will hollywood allow this? we all know that better broadband will just allow pirates to steal more content faster - I imagine hollywood must be gearing up right now to defeat this nefarious proposal. | |
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| Re: will hollywood allow this? said by 2kmaro  :said by nasadude :I imagine hollywood must be gearing up right now to defeat this nefarious proposal. So, you've uncovered his nefarious purpose? I didn't think too many people would catch on right away that he is simply trying to get the necessary connectivity for SkyNet to become a reality  I can't wait for the neuronet processors
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| Hollywod anyone? So in the middle of a writers strike over pay for online media, the Governator wants to bring more customers online. Imagine that!
Whatever his reason, I'm all for it.
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Huntington Beach, CA | Dude! We're friggin' bankrupt.
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| Re: Dude! said by DotMac :We're friggin' bankrupt. Quit spending money we don't have! I didn't see anything mentioning the state itself spending the money. Just that they would have a development plan. And that may be nothing but encouraging Comcast, TW, Verizon, & AT&T to build more infrastructure by promising a friendly regulatory environment.
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4 edits | Re: Dude! Our governor doesn't get involved in anything that doesn't involve taxpayers spending money through massive bond measures.
I can see it now...Prop FU, $2.1 billion for fiber deployment (that will never happen).
He and the far left legislature continue to spend money hand over fist and despite us being in the hole by BILLIONS year after year, the budget continues to balloon out of control papered over by massive borrowing.
No, there is going to be a ton gov't money to be had in some form at the end of all this bloviating. A few years ago it was billions in taxpayer money we didn't have for stem cell research and now it will be millions if not billions for the telcos and cable giants.
If he wants to stimulate growth and jobs...cut the budget to what it was in 2000 and cut taxes. Businesses are fleeing not because they can't download Pr0N but that the cost of business here is outrageous thanks to insanely high taxation, workers comp rates, ambulance chasers and bull crap CAL-EPA regulations that are all completely out of control.
There is nothing more portable than rich people and money...and they're the ones creating all the jobs. Unfortunately thanks to our beloved hacks in Sacramento they're all moving to Nevada and Arizona which don't wage class warfare on job creators. | |
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join:2001-10-05
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| said by LiamJunket :... And that may be nothing but encouraging Comcast, TW, Verizon, & AT&T to build more infrastructure by promising a friendly regulatory environment. so, in other words, he's not really serious about speeding up deployment, or ensuring reliable service and reasonable prices? | |
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| Let Verizon do it I have had it with bond measures in CA. He gave Verizon a statewide franchise to wire most of the state with fiber. Give them a deadline to get it done or yank the permit and give it to the cable cos. That will hurry them up. Let the Verizon shareholders pay for this. Not the CA tax payers. Oh also bonds are not free people. We have to issue them and pay the interest on them. And that is already billions of dollars for past bonds issued. Voters are not falling for this "freebie" bond crap like thy did a few years ago. I just heard 80% of the water bond money for water projects was not yet allocated. Cute. Issue bonds then dont use the money. This state is out of control and is an example of what happens when dems run things. Take note America
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| Re: Let Verizon do it said by VerizonCynic :I have had it with bond measures in CA. He gave Verizon a statewide franchise to wire most of the state with fiber. Give them a deadline to get it done or yank the permit and give it to the cable cos. The statewide franchise law applies to ALL TV providers - not just Verizon. So the cable companies and AT&T have the same incentives in the law as Verizon does.
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Lakewood, CA | Re: Let Verizon do it Well thats true but you have to apply and get approved. Lets modify the law and make then jump thru another hoop. If you want the franchise you have to get so much done in so much time or you loose the franchise. You cant just sit on it | |
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Huntington Beach, CA | As a California over-taxedpayer my wallet has been Terminated.
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| Re: Let Verizon do it said by DotMac :As a California over-taxedpayer my wallet has been Terminated. Thanks Arnold...you f*ckin' jerk! Um have you forgotten Gray Davis? That douche fucked up California way before Arnie came along. | |
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1 edit | Re: Let Verizon do it Sorry I'm so slow in posting. After seeing Gray Davis' name in print, I had to go vomit; quite the mess.
Ah-nauld took over in the spending right where Howdy Doody left off. I wish Kall-ee-four-nya could be split in two. Orange County/Riverside South into 1 state, and then let the hippies and actors build their pot filled utopia to the norte. | |
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| Re: Let Verizon do it said by DotMac :Sorry I'm so slow in posting. After seeing Gray Davis' name in print, I had to go vomit; quite the mess. Ah-nauld took over in the spending right where Howdy Doody left off. I wish Kall-ee-four-nya could be split in two. Orange County/Riverside South into 1 state, and then let the hippies and actors build their pot filled utopia to the norte. You got a deal! Except, we norteno's would be more enthusiatic if you Southern Californiano's kept everything south of the Tehachapi mountains, and recalled your current ambassador, the Right Hon. A. Schwartzenegger.
Now that's settled, let's talk water rights...You are a "free market" capitalist, aren't you? So I'm sure you'll understand..uh..certain water fee increases to cover the cost of a fence, and border crossing stations, to keep you thirsty los angelenos on your side of the Tehachapi's, and to preserve, and responsibly manage, the limited and diminishing water resources of Northern California?
With that issue put to rest, we can move on to discuss the food production/distribution/pricing issues I'm sure you have anticipated will most certainly arise as we reallocate our agricultural resources/output to additional, more profitable markets to enhance our ROI.
And, of course, with all the wildfire damage down your way, the availability/cost of lumber and other building materials will be impacted. We'll try to limit price-gouging to "reasonable" levels. Mustn't constrain the "free market" too much. That could introduce disequilibrium into the economic whirligig, dontcha know... | |
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2 edits | Re: Let Verizon do it That's fine, we'll keep our money, build desalinization plants and toss out the illegals.
We'll get our food elsewhere thanks. You can keep the E. coli tainted crap. The central valley certainly isn't the sole source of food production on the planet. Same with wood products. | |
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: Let Verizon do it Real Republican...not to be confused with the neo-Con spend happy trash in Washington. | |
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| We all know Ron Paul wont get the nod in the repulikan party so I think he should move to Kali-fornia and run for Govenator!
As far as bonds yes some do squeak by but only then the ads on tv (for voter zombies) say they are to benefit the "children" "first responders" or puppies | |
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| More corporate welfare... For crying out loud, why can't we just leave the money where it's made? Why does this country have to CONSTANTLY stick its nose into OUR business, take our money and give it to someone else?
The LAST place our money should go is Ma Bell redux. Isn't AT&T making enough money to fund its own deployments? If rural towns want broadband, how about we let the local residents vote and pass a tax to fund it? | |
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Colorado Springs, CO | Re: More corporate welfare... Your absolutely correct, keep the damn government hands out of my wallet and out of my personal business. | |
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1 edit | Bring it on! Use ALL the road construction money!! Bring on the fiber!! And to pay for it, use the road constuction bond money, thereby saving the environment by reducing global warming, increasing national security (by reducing foreign oil dependence to fuel the millions of cars in CA), generating new leading-edge technology jobs and increasing productivity!
Fiber is a long-term investment toward building the next "world", and yes, it's going to cost money. From a growth standpoint (growth creates new jobs), our physical world, well the US, is mostly developed. We desperately need another economic pursuit to keep millions of people employed and through their efforts generating added value.
Obviously, the Internet represents the next new world to be constructed. It's either going to be US leading the way or US chasing everyone else. The US invented the Internet, let's not loose the edge. Let's get moving with continuing to create the innovations and sharpening the edge so that we own the valuable new technology and can export it, at a premium, to other countries so the national debt and trade imbalance can be materially reduced.
There's no reason the US can't have 20 more Goggle, Cisco, Microsoft-like (add your most impressive here) companies with remarkable success stories, balance sheets and ecstatic shareholders and employees.
Let's sprint to put in place the infrastructure to make progess happen! Long term, the investment will pay for itself many times over and in many ways previously unattainable! | |
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Colorado Springs, CO | Re: Bring it on! Use ALL the road construction money!! Let those who want fiber foot the bill for fiber, keep the governments role out of this. | |
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| Re: Bring it on! Use ALL the road construction money!! We can't wait that long. Every day we delay is another day we fall further behind. Just look at the giant lead the asian countries have over the US in the cell phone device market. Given our technical expertise as a nation, we should own that market!
Personally, I'd rather have a little government involvement in stoking the kindle of progress and know that others are benefiting by being gainfully employed, than experience the loss of high-paying jobs and the future opportunities the associated innovation brings along, than flat outright object to a funding approach that would have the greatest potential for success.
I'm just as fearful and unconvinced of the "efficiency" of government, but at least give support to the govt funding the project and then leasing out the infrastrcture to multiple (not just two or three), competitive operators, just as DSL is provided by multiple ISP's (AT&T owning the lines isn't necessarily optimum, but many companies are making money subleasing, none the less).
Deploying fiber throughout California would be a massive financial undertaking that private companies couldn't afford and their shareholders wouldn't have the stomach or patience for the very long term risk/reward.
Just as roads are built with public money, do the same with fiber which is simply the next step interestingly along the exact same physical paths (much cross country fiber is laid alongside rail road paths, which followed stage coach lines, which followed horse trails, etc.)
Let's not get stuck in the Internet horse and buggies days, let's get on building the new world now! | |
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| Re: Bring it on! Use ALL the road construction money!! said by AirGig :Personally, I'd rather have a little government involvement in stoking the kindle of progress I tell you what, mate: the day you find the government willing to limit its role in anything to a "little involvement," you call me, okay? | |
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| I do agree with that. Stay home and work and get the hell off the freeway. People drive to work just to sit at a computer all day. How silly. I guess the best part is they can escape the madness at their home. I really do think the way to stop carbon emissions (at least from cars) is to keep them off the road as much as possible. Just imagine what we could do with 100/100mb fiber connections to the home
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2 edits | Re: Bring it on! Use ALL the road construction money!! Aww..then I wouldn't enjoy watch'in KTLA's traffic babe in the helicopter every morning commenting on ANOTHER tie-up on the 405. Not to mention, she's a cutie.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I'm prep'in for my 5 min. drive to work. Yep, I COULD walk-takes 15 minutes. Don't though, as I prefer to be politically incorrect. | |
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| Re: We need faster broadband said by jdir :Broadband is like the highway - if everyone has faster broadband - ......... then tolling becomes inevitable? | |
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Schwarzenegger Seeks Digital Infrastructure Development
