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story category Hughes Takes Control of Spaceway 3
Boeing hands it over, pre-commercial testing begins
(old news - 11:51AM Tuesday Dec 18 2007)
tags: satellite · business · bandwidth · networking · HughesNet Satellite Broadband
Hughes Networks Systems' SPACEWAY 3 satellite was launched last August from Kourou, French Guiana. One of the larger satellites ever built, the company says the new bird should ease their capacity crunch, though it isn't expected to be operation until the first quarter of next year. The technical specifics from the folks at Hughes:

The SPACEWAY system was designed and developed by Hughes as a next- generation, Ka-band broadband satellite system, the world's first commercial satellite to employ on-board traffic switching and routing capability. Combined with many other advances in satellite technology, such as 10 Gbps overall capacity, fast packet switching, and dynamic beam forming, the SPACEWAY 3 satellite ushers in a new world of bandwidth-on-demand satellite services with true site-to-site, single-hop networking of high-performance ground terminals.
According to Hughes, they accepted handover of the satellite from Boeing today, and will begin pre-commercial testing of the satellite immediately. In conversations with the company, they've so far been unwilling to clarify to us if the new capacity will result in the company easing up on some of its bandwidth caps.

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youveshutmedown

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well well well

I will be interested to see what this does to drive competition in the commercial/residential satellite broadband industry.
BF69

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Re: well well well

It won't do anything. The won't increase speeds, lower prcies or raise caps. Why should they? Their only customers are people that live in the boonies who only other choice is dial-up. Except the satelite companies are too stupid to realize that those most of those people would rather put up with dial-up or no internet at all than to put up with what satelite calls "service"

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Re: well well well

said by BF69 See Profile :

It won't do anything. The won't increase speeds, lower prcies or raise caps. Why should they? Their only customers are people that live in the boonies who only other choice is dial-up. Except the satelite companies are too stupid to realize that those most of those people would rather put up with dial-up or no internet at all than to put up with what satelite calls "service"
They will use it to expand the number of customers they can serve. And they will get new customers no matter what you think about people sticking with dial-up instead of using satellite connections.
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BF69

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Re: well well well

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

It won't do anything. The won't increase speeds, lower prices or raise caps. Why should they? Their only customers are people that live in the boonies who only other choice is dial-up. Except the satellite companies are too stupid to realize that those most of those people would rather put up with dial-up or no Internet at all than to put up with what satellite calls "service"
They will use it to expand the number of customers they can serve. And they will get new customers no matter what you think about people sticking with dial-up instead of using satellite connections.
Yes I heard that from wild blue too. they claim their satellite will offer 6x time the capacity. How's that goal of getting 6X as many customers working out so far for them? It's insane if they think they're going to get 6X time as many customers with their service and prices as is. Same thing goes with hughesnet.

ther is an old saying in business "It's easy to keep a customer than get get a new one" They should think about that. Satisfy CURRENT customers befoere going after new ones.

brandon
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said by BF69 See Profile :

It won't do anything. The won't increase speeds, lower prcies or raise caps. Why should they? Their only customers are people that live in the boonies who only other choice is dial-up.


said by BF69 See Profile :

Except the satelite companies are too stupid to realize that those most of those people would rather put up with dial-up or no internet at all than to put up with what satelite calls "service"
I believe that's called "answering your own question."
stunod2002

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Re: well well well

said by brandon See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

It won't do anything. The won't increase speeds, lower prcies or raise caps. Why should they? Their only customers are people that live in the boonies who only other choice is dial-up.


said by BF69 See Profile :

Except the satelite companies are too stupid to realize that those most of those people would rather put up with dial-up or no internet at all than to put up with what satelite calls "service"
I believe that's called "answering your own question."
I was gona say the same thing..

I'm amazed at how many people ask a question just so they can vent thier personal opinions about it in their own answer.. I'm just glad most of them are smart enough to just put it in one post..
BF69

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Re: well well well

said by stunod2002 See Profile :

said by brandon See Profile :

said by BF69 See Profile :

It won't do anything. The won't increase speeds, lower prcies or raise caps. Why should they? Their only customers are people that live in the boonies who only other choice is dial-up.


said by BF69 See Profile :

Except the satelite companies are too stupid to realize that those most of those people would rather put up with dial-up or no internet at all than to put up with what satelite calls "service"
I believe that's called "answering your own question."
I was gona say the same thing..

I'm amazed at how many people ask a question just so they can vent thier personal opinions about it in their own answer.. I'm just glad most of them are smart enough to just put it in one post..
Um since when it is not allowed to post one's opinion on this messagebaord? It seem YOU are doing just that. Get a life.

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Good for Hughes

Im willing to bet Hughes still will leave there caps in place and not change anything over it.

I forgot about the satellite going up some how
audiog

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Detroit, MI

faster POS sales

The founding customer base for Hughes is Point of Sales transactions processing. Look at the roof of Gas stations, large chain stores for the dish. Residential is a relatively new thing for them. This means that during busy times of the day the extra capacity will go to POS processing. And I know you have swiped the card and experienced a delay of 30 or more seconds for the transaction to complete.
manhole

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Re: faster POS sales

Yes, exactly. I know one of their big customers is the California Lottery. Most stores that sell lottery tickets here in California use Hughes as their connection. That is a pretty large customer base just from that.

aaron8301
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Re: faster POS sales

Same in Washington, and I assume most states. The convenience store I once worked at had one HN dish for lottery, and another for POS transactions.

tdba

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mm, do not agree with that entirely. Their consumer base is growing 15.000 a month, and believe me, the B2B business isn't growing that much (less than 10% actually in NA). Agree, Spaceway certainly will bring new applications to the B2B arena, but the consumer business is certainly not playground for Hughes.
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said by audiog See Profile :

And I know you have swiped the card and experienced a delay of 30 or more seconds for the transaction to complete.
Generally, although not always, delays like that are due to the establishment using analog dial up to process cards, rather than a leased line or VSAT. Even though they fix the terminals and the modem pools at 1200bps (iirc) to speed connection times, it still takes quite a while.

Personally, I prefer stores that use either leased line or ISDN dialup, so the authorization takes 1-5 seconds.

SBS

@cox.net

Re: faster POS sales

90% of the pay at the pump transactions in the US is VSAT based. It never takes me more than 3-4 seconds.
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