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1 edit | Re: Gotta love the UK Filtering of sites designated by this "Internet Watch Foundation", which is apparently a private company, is already highly questionable. It's consistent with freedom of communication if there is some way for the public to confirm that IWF is flagging only child pornography and not anything else. But it's not clear that there is any public oversight.
If the additional category is added, there's nothing to prevent the authorities from expanding the definition or applying it broadly. I predict that if this is enacted, any advocacy of Palestinian rights, criticism of the Israelis or approval of the liberation (resistance) fighters in Iraq or Afghanistan will be put on the list very soon after. And again there will no provision for the public to know what they're being prevented from seeing.
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The IWF FAQ lists other things they get inquiries about. Generally their answer is that the other things are outside their remit. But the list gives a good idea of what the government is likely to add, once the censorship bandwagon gets going:
"Computer Crime", "Copyright", "Fraud & Financial Scams", "Identity Theft", "Lottery Scams", "Morbid Images", "Obscene Content", "Online Auctions", "Online Games", "Peer to Peer Services", "Phishing", "Premium Rate Dialers", "Pro-Eating Disorder Sites", "Racial Issues", "Suicide Websites", "Wildlife Crime" | |
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CWCville USA | Re: Gotta love the UK Wow! Me too! Haha, what kind of simpleton actually believes that crap? Probably the same idiots that think terrorists actually "hate us because we're free". Yeah! Right on! God Bless America! What? What do you mean Judaism, Christianity and Islamism are basically sects of the same religion? But President Bush told me they're evil! How can someone who believes in the same god be evil?
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Chevy Chase, MD | Re: Gotta love the UK Nice going ninjaturtle. Really making strides for civil discourse by attacking the nationality and not addressing the point made. 
Let's get beyond the "we wuz attacked" bullsh*t and start thinking about things that actually stand a hope in hell of making us more secure. Knee-jerk stupidity like criminalizing speech ain't gonna get us there. | |
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CWCville USA | said by ninjatutle:This is coming from someone who lives in canaduh lol HUR HUR HUR! You sure showed me! I like how you mentioned how the education standards in Canada are so much higher than in your country. Well, you didn't mention it as much as prove it with your comment (as well as your inability to spell "turtle").
To all you other Americans, I'm sorry you have to live with people like ninja"tutle", you sane Americans are more than welcome to come up here. Free drugs! | |
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Chevy Chase, MD | Re: Gotta love the UK said by james:said by ninjatutle:This is coming from someone who lives in canaduh lol HUR HUR HUR! You sure showed me! I like how you mentioned how the education standards in Canada are so much higher than in your country. Well, you didn't mention it as much as prove it with your comment (as well as your inability to spell "turtle"). To all you other Americans, I'm sorry you have to live with people like ninja"tutle", you sane Americans are more than welcome to come up here. Free drugs! Dude - I'm sorry too. These "Proud Patriot since 9.11.01" types irritate the hell out of me. They seem to think that 9-11 justifies any dumb thing my "government" comes up with.
What's doubly galling is that these "we wuz attacked" types usually live and work in really safe parts of the US where nothing is ever going to happen. Most people I know live and work smack-dab in Al Qaeda's crosshairs and they aren't freaking out.
Most Americans are sane, rational people - not xenophobic, Bible-bashing Mike Huckabee supporters. And we love Canada -- our "Mexico of the North" (just joking!! I've been there a bunch of times and really love it.)
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| | | | said by swhx7:Filtering of sites designated by this "Internet Watch Foundation", which is apparently a private company, is already highly questionable. It's consistent with freedom of communication if there is some way for the public to confirm that IWF is flagging only child pornography and not anything else. But it's not clear that there is any public oversight. note that the reuters article contains innacuracies... (ISPs voluntarily use the IWF, which they have to subscribe to if they want to get the lists....
»www.iwf.org.uk/corporate/page.121.251.htm
members here
»www.iwf.org.uk/funding/page.64.htm
{in practice it is impossible for an ISP to check the lists, because the only thing they notify are "illegal child abuse images" which can carry a 10 year sentence for viewing.... the IWF operate under the section of the law which provides that law enforcement/the security services will not face prosecution for viewing images in the course of their duties.}
the only part of their work that has legal force is that relating to illegal material hosted in the UK (which it would be a criminal offence for the ISP to continue to host after being notified of it's nature...}
»www.iwf.org.uk/police/page.22.40.htm
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IWF is an incorporated charity*, limited by guarantee and is largely funded by voluntary contributions. It is governed by a Board of Trustees, consisting of an Independent Chair, six non-industry representatives and three industry representatives. The Board monitor and review IWF’s remit, strategy, policy and budget to enable the IWF to achieve its objectives.
The role of the Board and Board members is described in the Constitution and Board Members Handbook.
Subscribing organisations who support the IWF nominate representatives to a Funding Council. Funding Council elects three of its members to represent industry views on the Board.
Non-industry Board members are chosen by an open selection procedure following advertisements in the national press.
The Board Chair is Amanda Jordan OBE. Amanda is a Founding Director and Chair of the SMART Company, a consulting business which specialises in corporate social responsibility.
»www.iwf.org.uk/corporate/page.48.htm
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To hell with freedom of expression. I was 3 miles away from the pentagon when it was hit,, and if there was less "freedom", GWB wouldn't have had such temerity to spend 2 trillion usd.
Lets call it an Islamofiltre. I mean, who the heck is trying to blow the world up. Yes...our "friends"...the Saudis. | |
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*PFFFFFFFFT. What a sick A-hole...
Bombing, maiming, killing women, children, people lining up to become Police... yeah, that's a lovely little moniker, "Resistance Fighters". The moral equivalence of the ghoulish left has no bounds. | |
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Valencia, CA | Re: The enemy within In some countries, there have been filters that operate the other way, filtering out free speech and capitalism (China), or free ways of thinking. Its just 'big brother' attempting to influence/curb free speech/thinking.
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They've (largely) become a nation of touchy-feely Wuses.
*Example: Last summer the UK BATTLESHIP was over taken by Iranianuts in RUBBER DINGHIES... then treated like "Heroes" when they were let go as a "Gift" from Mahmoud?!?! - Or that woman teacher with the Teddy bear... WTF?!?!
*Read some Theodore Dalrymple on city journal - you may just be shocked.
It's this bad:
»www.city-journal.org/html/16_2_oh_to_be.html
He is widely considered the best Brit Essayist since Orwell. And boy, is it "Orwellian" over there. Let's hope more sane heads prevail or the Royal family will be bowing east towards Mecca soon! | |
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1 edit |  James Bond would know what to do :)
MI5 spy chief Jonathan Evans said last November the agency knew of at least 2,000 British-based individuals who posed a direct threat to national security because of their support for terrorism. If they know who they are, what are they waiting for?
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3 edits | Re: James Bond would know what to do :) How will they have targets for the smart bombs if they are filtered?
Look for the new game by ActroVision-BS ...A flight sim like no other, fly remote controlled vehicles with SWHellfire missiles. Control robots to diffuse mines and suicide bombers!
Fly the street's of London with Missile-View, hunter-seeker missiles can give you the tourist view, along with action packed radical Islam hunting!
You will be immersed in the back country of Afghanistan in the extra bonus missions- Hunt for Osama! After you fire your SWHellfire missiles, you can call on a B-52 with Bunker Busters to finish the job! | |
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Hurley, MS | wow This is the definition of slippery slope. First child porn, then islamism, what next? | |
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1 edit | "Enemy of the state", "supporters of intolerance", go look at Communism and Hitler's govt for more buzzwords. Why reinvent the wheel?
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people great amount of source material, pick your social group. | |
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join:2001-10-19 | Re: wow said by patcat88:"Enemy of the state", "supporters of intolerance", go look at Communism and Hitler's govt for more buzzwords. Why reinvent the wheel? » en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people great amount of source material, pick your social group. On the other hand, even the presumed to be paranoid can have enemies. Perhaps the paranoid who can actually point out those who both publicly and constantly say and demonstrate that they are in fact out to get him or her has a legitimate concern...or maybe not.
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| to everyone who says this is a good idea.. wheres the blocking going to end? If im Atheist and all church websites offend me do they get blocked too? What about Certain music sites? What about Anarchist websites? bottom line is everyone is offended by something.. if it exists then someone must be offended by it. The point to the story? dont block anything... how about.. DON'T GO TO THE SITE DUHH | |
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Mountains | Re: to everyone who says this is a good idea.. said by mikenolan7:And get involved in your own kid's lives, instead of counting on the government to save them from the boogeyman, DUHH! Exactly. This isn't said often enough. If you don't have the time or the ressources to be a parent, then don't be one.
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3 edits | The differences are threats made and the ability to carry those threats out. People cannot ignore them and hope they go away, we already know the consequences.
Filtering is not the answer, it's a bandage. The illness is determined, no bandage will stop it.
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| said by zipjay:wheres the blocking going to end? If im Atheist and all church websites offend me do they get blocked too? What about Certain music sites? What about Anarchist websites? bottom line is everyone is offended by something.. if it exists then someone must be offended by it. The point to the story? dont block anything... how about.. DON'T GO TO THE SITE DUHH Do you advocate the Removal of the C-Porn blocks already in place? We have been informed above that that is the gateway drug of blocked Islamo-Terrorism.
The Islamist sites that actively advocate the slaughtering of your Western Infidel wife, son and daughter,
or willing allow themselves to be used to spread that message
are potentially breaking the law.
I've just given you Harold's Purple Crayon and bestowed upon you the power to draw the line that will forcefully define our safety.
Behind the line = too dangerous for society.
In front of the line = not too dangerous for society.
What do you put behind the line and what do you want available for those that choose?
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2 edits | Re: Internet Filters I agree completely, Freedom is not normally given, It's usually paid for in Blood, One must be ever vigilant or It will be lost forever, Radical Islamists are a problem for everyone and they won't go away, As far as their concerned the Koran is the only law they will obey, period and for them a peace treaty is just an excuse to rearm for the next attack(Mohammed made a few treaties, One treaty was for 10 years, It lasted a mere 2 years before It was broken and for minor reasons on the Muslims part(Mohammed broke It from what I've read), This was a Treaty on the Jews of Medina), To them Tolerance is not allowed and they say they are only practicing their Religion murdering in the name of GOD, They won't rest until their type of Islam rules the whole planet they've said and all other Religions and Cultures are Exterminated, Then and only then will there be Peace upon the Earth. Most Muslims I suspect are not like this, But some are zealots and are unreasonable and unreachable except by GODs own judgment after their life has expired naturally on It's own(or by a bullet from our or somebodys troops if needed), No one needs a bunch of Islamic Martyrs being executed in prison. I'm not against Muslims, Around here there may be a few, But I've heard and seen nothing bad, I can only conclude they're peaceful and law obeying around here. And Muslims in the USA should not isolate themselves or their Kids, Unless Radical Islam wants to infect their kids, Hopefully not of course.
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Reston, VA | Morality Filters? This is the perfect solution.
What about radical Christianity? How about a filter to remove Britney Spears and Paris Hilton from the internet? They probably cause more damage to our society.
I just can't jump on the wagon that subscribes to censoring an opinion. If some illegal activity is discovered, take action, but we can't have a small group of individuals deciding what information should or should not be available to the public. | |
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1 edit | Re: Morality Filters? said by jmn1207:This is the perfect solution. What about radical Christianity? How about a filter to remove Britney Spears and Paris Hilton from the internet? They probably cause more damage to our society. I just can't jump on the wagon that subscribes to censoring an opinion. If some illegal activity is discovered, take action, but we can't have a small group of individuals deciding what information should or should not be available to the public. Sorry, But It isn't the same as Radical Islam, One is as far as I know peaceful and One wants to exterminate anybody that's different, Just like the Nazis tried to do in WWII.
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1 edit | Re: Morality Filters? said by zoom314:Sorry, But It isn't the same as Radical Islam, There's no objective definition of what "Radical Islam" is. Even people who may share your view that "It" is a scourge won't agree with your views of what qualifies as "Radical Islam". There are people on these boards who contend that all Muslims are followers of "Radical Islam". There are people on these boards who contend that several current presidential candidates are followers of "Radical Islam". That is where a simplistic phrase becomes useless. There's little or no agreement as to what it means.
Virus definitions are constantly updated for major AV programs. There are some objective measures for what constitutes a virus or trojan or other threat. And even then all vendors identify numerous false positives. Take away most of the objective measuring, add in the daily, changing opinions of what "Radical Islam" means in the minds of those operating the program, and I think you can see the danger, and folly.
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1 edit | Re: Morality Filters? I think that anyone who makes a bomb and becomes a Suicide Bomber would be a bad guy no matter who they are. And anyone who in a Religious context asks for help in doing things like the above bad guys are the enemies of everybody else, And If It's done online with intent to recruit followers then They should be blocked and taken down immediately, No matter where They are.  This is a War of Ideas that has been going on for quite a while and It's just getting more intense lately, As some are frustrated that They aren't winning or in charge, So they have turned to evil methods to spread their ideas.
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| 2 cents We all know there is content online which is not suitable for all audiences. But sometimes the needs of the MANY outweigh the needs of the FEW… Especially when those labeled as “FEW” don’t have the best interest in mind for the “MANY.”
Unfortunately, the Internet can be good, can be bad, and certainly be VERY ugly. The only way that “Good” can reign most of the time is by filtering/preventing/inhibiting the bad from turning Ugly.
Sometimes “rights” and “privileges” which we all are entitled to have to suffer, so that the rest of us can stay safe.
Honestly, the enemy is hiding in plain sight. If the enemy could easily be identified, then there wouldn’t be a need for filters or the need to track people’s email or internet usage.
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Former Republican Congressman indicted in terrorist fund-raising conspiracy!
More Republican corruption—Are you surprised?
A former congressman and delegate to the United Nations was indicted Wednesday as part of a terrorist fund-raising ring that allegedly sent more than $130,000 to an al Qaeda and Taliban supporter who has threatened U.S. and international troops in Afghanistan. The former Republican congressman from Michigan, Mark Deli Siljander, was charged with money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for allegedly lying about lobbying senators on behalf of an Islamic charity that authorities said was secretly sending funds to terrorists.
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New York, NY | They have it all wrong... Instead of blocking these sites, they should encourage them (yes, you read that correctly). In fact, the UK government should create a honeypot type situation, with their own "faux" radical sites. This way, they could simply monitor everything (and everyone) that logs onto those sites and makes posts. Think about it, you create a website for terrorist wanabes. They come, post about things they are going to do, and BAM you go and arrest them all. Those morons will be stuck scratching their heads wondering how they got caught, and likely will head right back to the government spoofed site to talk about it! Pepper the internet with a few of these and the UK could round up (and execute, if only they still did that  ) hundreds, if not thousands of those vile monsters. The world would certainly be a better place.....
In reality, I suspect the government in the UK is already doing this. If only all governments did this we could rid the earth of these murderous vermin once and for all.
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| Re: They have it all wrong... said by wifi4milez:In fact, the UK government should create a honeypot type situation, with their own "faux" radical sites. I posted mine just seconds after yours. Great minds!
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| Re: They have it all wrong... said by axus:Wow, somebody's been reading 1984 If you're not attracted to radical Muslim websites, why would you be concerned? A honey pot is a basic security principle. It's a great way to intercept hackers (whatever), giving them non-sensitive resources to bang on so they don't spend their time on sensitive resources.
Why would you be opposed to that when it comes to people who embrace religious violence?
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New York, NY | said by axus:Wow, somebody's been reading 1984 Not really, it happens every day with regard to hackers. This is simply raising the stakes a little bit. The FBI has been using honeypots for years, and I suspect foreign governments have as well. A criminal on the internet is the same any way you dice it, they all seek their own kind.
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| Honey pot It would be a lot better not to filter this out. Even create a facio-Islamic website. Then use the US's broad powers of surveillance to identify persons of interest. Why turn off all access and lose that ability to identify people who deserve greater scrutiny using traditional surveillance?
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Chevy Chase, MD | Re: Only if we can get a bad teeth on TV filter said by Dogfather:Then I'd be all for it. Are there no dentists in GB? Plenty. It's just that most people don't want to go private and have to pay. And the waiting list to see an NHS dentist is loooooonnng.
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Bradenton, FL | Free speech to incitie violence Instead of filtering, why don't they just arrest the extremists for inciting violence? Free speech is one thing but someone who encites others to commit violence and then calls it free speech is another. | |
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| Re: Free speech to incitie violence said by viperpa33s:Instead of filtering, why don't they just arrest the extremists for inciting violence? Free speech is one thing but someone who encites others to commit violence and then calls it free speech is another. These blatant jihadist sites are not hosted within the UK by Brits, how are they supposed to arrest them?
However, they are visited by the population of radical Islamists that live just under the radar (or so they think) in the UK, or maybe even young Muslims who haven't quite stepped over the line yet but are being pushed to do so.
Can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with these specific sites being blocked unless someone IS a radical jihadist, they sure aren't secretive about their purpose or agenda.
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| Re: Free speech to incitie violence I'd be interested in looking at some, always good to see how your enemy thinks. If you haven't read the North Korean official online newspaper, you really should, its hilarious: »www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm
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Can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with these specific sites being blocked unless someone IS a radical jihadist, they sure aren't secretive about their purpose or agenda.[/BQUOTE :You don't have a problem with blocking LEGAL content? These sites are not illegal. Offensive? Hell yes! Distasteful? Fo' Sho!! Illegal? Mmmm...no. Blocking information you don't like is undemocratic, totalitarian and shockingly simple-minded. Oh, and BTW - tell me which Republican rocket scientist came up with that "statistic" in your posting tag? --
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The second problem is the slippery slope. Yesterday it was child porn. Today it's Radical Islamic content. Tomorrow it's "White Power" sites. Next week comes the sites that promote massive (peaceful) protests against the War in Iraq. The week after that comes the block on "radical" dissenting political opinions. (Might not be violent, but just outside the norm enough to get blocked.) Perhaps the anti-evolution crowd gets enough votes together to get anti-Intelligent Design sites banned.
Over time more and more content is blocked until the you have another Great Firewall of China in place. Meanwhile, the blocking committee gets more and more power and might even start blocking content on their own. (See the first fear.)
It's not that people are *in favor of* Radical Islam and Child Pornography. It's that they see that those topics are the thin side of a wedge being pushed into your freedom of speech.
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| Re: Why not just adopt the constitution of Red China said by seker2k:Why not just adopt the constitution of Red China communism and censor anything the state doesn't like? Why not read the article and pay attention to where this is being proposed and exactly what they are talking about "censoring"?
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CuchulainnThe Roar of the Masses Could be Farts
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Chevy Chase, MD | Same Pack of Labour Party Idiots I LOVE the Labour Party's trial balloons! Whether it's Road Pricing, Foundation Hospitals or Mega Casinos, it's always bombastic, ridiculous and flat-earthly!
The truth is that Britain has a huge problem with Islamic fundamentalism. They are desperate for anything that has even the slightest probability of preventing another 7/7 - remember those guys were all homegrown. Brown and Company would pimp their own grannies if they thought it would help - civil liberties are dispensable to them.
I say deputize the Chavs. Let the Neds, Spides and Skellies look for radicals while drinking Tennent's Special and smoking hash. It'll be just about as effective as this ridiculous proposal
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 koamPink PeckerPremium
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1 edit | Do it! And I hope it works. They should spy on the sites, not block them.... Those people are plotting and if the info is passing right by us, we should read it. | |
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| | Internet Filters For the individuals here that have posted the opinion that if you don't think this is a good idea, you must be an extremist, radical islamist, jihadist, etc.: if you represent the terrorist spotting abilities of the people that are going to run this system, I got news for you, it ain't gonna work. | |
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