 JSRoman Premium join:2005-03-10 Callahan, FL | Not new. Motorola had the same issue with Comcast and Time Warner last year. -- »www.seabee.navy.mil | |
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 |  proletarian2
join:2007-01-08 00000 | Re: Not new. The shortage is with HD DVRs only, AFAIK. | |
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join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA | Re: Not new. Motorola's standard def DVRs are actually newer products than the HD ones. | |
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 |  proletarian2
join:2007-01-08 00000 | The shortage is with HD DVRs only, AFAIK.
Customers calling in for an HD DVR will be given an SD DVR at no charge. When the HD ones come in, they'll then be shipped to the customers. | |
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  Ahpuch
@verizon.net | DVR Just had mine installed about an hour ago. Never mentioned a shortage. | |
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 |   Voyager2K2
join:2001-10-04 Wayne, PA | Re: DVR
I had three installed Dec 21 2007 in SE PA region. Didn't hear anything about a shortage. Love the new boxes BTW although 18 hours recording time could use some improvement. | |
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  Dogfather Premium join:2007-12-26 Laguna Hills, CA | So is Cox I had my HD-DVR go south and it took 3 weeks to get a replacement, and when I finally got it the HDMI port wasn't active. Now I'm on a waiting list for one with HDMI and am told it could be mid-March before I get one. | |
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  aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA
·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Standard definition has never looked incredible "..our standard def looks incredible.."
That is impossible. Standard definition has never looked incredible.
And I use a $3500 video scaler(VP50pro) and a $1000 noise reduction box(Algolith HDMI flea) It gets the SD picture looking as good as you can get and I would never describe an SD picture as incredible. I've also been watching and recording HD since Summer 2001 so I'm used to watching HD content. | |
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join:2006-05-12 Springfield, IL
| Re: Standard definition has never looked incredible said by aaronwt :It gets the SD picture looking as good as you can get and I would never describe an SD picture as incredible. In comparison to the very highly compressed SD crap from DBS, it actually might!  | |
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 |   djrobx
join:2000-05-31 Valencia, CA | Yup. Not to mention the loss of widescreen formatted video. You'll either get 4:3 chopped glory or letterboxed video that's too blurry when zoomed. DVD is standard def but at least they're usually anamorphic. | |
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 |   N O Y B St. John 3.16
join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR
| said by aaronwt :"..our standard def looks incredible.." That is impossible. Standard definition has never looked incredible. And I use a $3500 video scaler(VP50pro) and a $1000 noise reduction box(Algolith HDMI flea) It gets the SD picture looking as good as you can get and I would never describe an SD picture as incredible. I've also been watching and recording HD since Summer 2001 so I'm used to watching HD content. Well there's your problem... Get rid of all that expensive junk and it will look incredible. Incredibly awful maybe, but incredible nonetheless.
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 |   rcdailey Dragoonfly Premium join:2005-03-29 Rialto, CA
| I had the opportunity to watch the Super Bowl in HD on Sunday and it looked very good, indeed. The new 42" Panasonic plasma TV I saw it on was rated at 720p, 1080i. It was served by a Dish network receiver, so I looked up Dish today and they advertise 720p, 1080i. I'm guessing that the picture I saw was as good as it gets via Dish. | |
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join:2007-01-08 00000 | Re: Standard definition has never looked incredible since fox broadcasts in 720p, you weren't going to gain much by watching it on a 1080i tv. | |
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| Re: Standard definition has never looked incredible said by proletarian2 :since fox broadcasts in 720p, you weren't going to gain much by watching it on a 1080i tv. Actually scaling it from 720p to 1080i you would actually lose information as well as picture quality on fast moving plays. | |
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| Re: Standard definition has never looked incredible said by cdru :said by proletarian2 :since fox broadcasts in 720p, you weren't going to gain much by watching it on a 1080i tv. Actually scaling it from 720p to 1080i you would actually lose information as well as picture quality on fast moving plays. If it were broadcast in 720p, then I would hope that would be how it would be shown on an HD TV that supports 720p. Otherwise, I would think that you could get some weird results. | |
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| Re: Standard definition has never looked incredible Most HD sets only display one resolution natively, either 1080i or 720p. Which ever one it doesn't support gets scaled. That's just the nature of the beast with fixed-pixel displays like DLP, LCD, or plasma. The only displays that can natively show both are CRT-based displays (either direct view or rear projection).
For the most part though watching one standard on a set designed for the other isn't that big of a deal. It's going to be a great picture either way. For the best details in a slow moving picture like a slow pan, 1080i will give you the best perceived picture as the human eye will see what it things to be 1080 lines of resolution. However with a fast moving screen like a football being thrown down the field with the crowd in the background, the eye will detect that only 540 lines are drawn every refresh and it can make the picture look shaky. In those cases, 720p gives the better picture because all 720 lines are drawn every refresh.
Now with 1080p it's the best of both worlds. Too bad nothing will be broadcast in that for years to come. | |
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 |   sapo I eat meat Premium join:2002-09-16 Sacramento, CA | You can use the fanciest equipment in the world but in the end... crap in = crap out. -- Oh. | |
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  NOCMan Verizon Fios User Premium join:2004-09-30 Flower Mound, TX
| Broken DVR's Mine just broke but Tivo has plenty of HD DVR's that work even better with FIOS cablecards..
So getting our second Tivo was a no brainer. -- Mac Chatter »www.macchatter.net | |
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  ExecPro Premium join:2002-06-07 Long Beach, NY
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| Free TVs I've heard that thats not all they are short of. It was on the news yesterday that people have been complaining of waiting for months for their free 17" LCDs. They should be giving alternatives if they ran out of the ones they were advertising - something "better" in its place. | |
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join:2004-04-24 Floral Park, NY | $15.99 a pop Wow, at $15.99 each per month rental they can't seem to crank them out fast enough, in addition to the service price & franchise fee. Hmm...
Is that I violin I hear? | |
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 |  proletarian2
join:2007-01-08 00000 | Re: $15.99 a pop yeah it's a violin... for motorola.
they are the ones that haven't kept up with the demand. | |
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join:2006-01-21 Seaford, NY | Re: $15.99 a pop I heard today from a tech who was here. That some exec for vz miscalulated the demand for the boxes and did not place orders for enough. | |
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1 edit | I got an idea Make it easier to return the DVR and I'll return mine. I'm faced with the option of paying $25 and waiting all day for a tech just so he can pick it up, or driving 80+ miles to drop it off. As of right now its currently sitting in my closet gathering dust. Somehow I don't think I'm the only one in this predicament after buying a Tivo. They should really send you a box to ship it back in.  | |
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join:2007-04-14 Virginia Beach, VA | Re: I got an idea They are supposed to be able to give you a return number and you can take it to a UPS Store and they'll box it up for you. | |
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  Jealous_canuck
@bell.ca
| Oh it must be nice.... For a telco to have such demand for an HD STB and have wonderful infrastructure to support it. Plus they're really nice about the delay in providing the hardware.
Here in Canada, it took forever to get HD DVR from the leading telco's DTH Sat. service. Elsewhere, the HD IPTV experience is not exactly stellar in terms of number of receivers, hardware, remaining broadband bandwidth for internet, etc.
The one big question: How friendly is FiosTV to people using Vista Ultimate and windows media centre to record tv? What's the analog overlay like? Do they have ClearQAM channels? OpenCable support? | |
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join:2007-08-23 Massapequa, NY | Why? Why does Verizon even continue to order SD boxes? Is the price difference between an HD and an SD box large enough to make the inevitable switch-over worth it? | |
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  Gnaget
@verizon.net | oops Heh, makes me laugh cause I have 2 of them in my trunk that I have been meaning to take back for 6 months, and i keep forgetting. Been paying $30/month for them in the mean time | |
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join:2005-01-28 Scarsdale, NY | Cablecards Well I have one that they can have back as soon as the manage to get some cablecards for my Tivo in stock....  | |
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join:2002-01-10 Virginia Beach, VA | Cox has the same problem No HD DVRs or plain HD boxes. On a list. Have been for three weeks and no one has called to give a time line. | |
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